POP Peeper fact

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Jeff

Regardless of what others say, POP Peeper absolutely deletes the emails off
of the Yahoo and Hotmail servers as they are loaded onto POP Peeper. I have
attempted every setting and regardless, after numerous tests, POP Peeper
deletes the items off of the servers the second you download them to POP
Peeper.
 
In news:D[email protected], Jeff typed:
Regardless of what others say, POP Peeper absolutely deletes the
emails off of the Yahoo and Hotmail servers as they are loaded onto
POP Peeper. I have attempted every setting and regardless, after
numerous tests, POP Peeper deletes the items off of the servers the
second you download them to POP Peeper.
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Can you just clarify your statement for me?

My experience of using Poppeeper is that if I download headers only,
messages are only deleted off the server if I action a delete in Poppeeper.
However, if I download the body, the message is then automatically deleted
off the server (Hotmail & Yahoo) iirc.

Is this your experience also?

nine9feet
 
Regardless of what others say, POP Peeper absolutely deletes the emails off
of the Yahoo and Hotmail servers as they are loaded onto POP Peeper. I have
attempted every setting and regardless, after numerous tests, POP Peeper
deletes the items off of the servers the second you download them to POP
Peeper.
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From Pop Peeper's FAQ:

"POP Peeper only deletes messages when you tell it to; however, some
servers automatically delete messages when they are retrieved. You might
be able to circumvent this "feature" by specifying that the account
download a preview of the message instead of the entire message. Even if
the preview results in downloading the entire message, it may prevent
the server from deleting the messages.

For each account that you need to modify:
- edit the account
- go to "advanced"
- set "retrieval option" to "preview"
- set the "Num Lines"...

To approximate what you need for the number of lines: assume 1 line is
about 100 bytes (80 is an even closer approximation). So if you want to
set a ceiling of about 1 meg per message, set the number of lines to
10,000. If you want to get the entire message regardless of size, set it
to 500,000 (max message size of about 50 megs).

This may not work for all servers, but has been successful for most
people (I have not heard from a case where it did not work). Please note
that most pop3 servers do not automatically delete messages."
 
Regardless of what others say, POP Peeper absolutely deletes the
emails off of the Yahoo and Hotmail servers as they are loaded
onto POP Peeper. I have attempted every setting and regardless,
after numerous tests, POP Peeper deletes the items off of the
servers the second you download them to POP Peeper.
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So what makes your sole experience more relevant than the numerous
users who don't experience this behavior? Just because it's a "fact"
for you does not mean that it "absolutely deletes" them for everyone.

My own experience, having just downloaded the latest version (2.4.1.0)
and created my Yahoo account in PopPeeper using the default options,
does not show the behavior that you're claiming. Upon connecting,
PopPeeper showed the five e-mails I had in my account. I read a
couple, and then closed the program. I then logged into Yahoo and
checked my e-mail, and all five mails exist. Relevant settings (as
previously mentioned, I didn't change any of these options; these are
the defaults):

- Delete mail immediately: unchecked
- Default retrieval option: Entire message
- Disk options: Store entire messages to disk

In fact, the only thing I could do to get PopPeeper to delete my
messages was to highlight an e-mail and click the delete button. Of
course, in this case, deletion is the desired--and expected--function.
And, even using this function, the e-mails are recoverable from
Yahoo's trash folder.

Of course, none of this explanation will matter to you, because you
qualified your own e-mail as "regardless of what others say".
Therefore, think of it as an e-mail to correct your misinformation
rather than an attempt to correct your closed-mindedness.
 
dkg_ctc said:
So what makes your sole experience more relevant than the numerous
users who don't experience this behavior? Just because it's a "fact"
for you does not mean that it "absolutely deletes" them for everyone.
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You are correct. I should have put "Based on my experience and testing with
the version that I have, I can unequivocally state that POP Peeper will
delete messages off of your Hotmail and Yahoo servers as soon as they are
retrieved regardless of the settings as I have done various tests using
every possible setting". Hope that clears it up.

J
 
You are correct. I should have put "Based on my experience and testing with
the version that I have, I can unequivocally state that POP Peeper will
delete messages off of your Hotmail and Yahoo servers as soon as they are
retrieved regardless of the settings as I have done various tests using
every possible setting". Hope that clears it up.

J
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Actually - what you should say is that pop peeper does this with your
set up - the leap you make is that because it happens to you, it WILL
happen to others - this despite others telling you this does not
happen to them, and giving you info from their faq which indicates
that this might be a server issue, and a rare one.

Anyway - reason for post ?

New version out, 2.41 - did not check, but it might help you :-)
 
You are correct. I should have put "Based on my experience and
testing with
the version that I have
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Jeff
nine9feet
dkg_ctc
Alastair Smeaton
Why dont you guys exchange setup screenshots via email.
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Screen Capture
If you are in any windows based program, just hit the Print Screen
key on your keyboard ( or Ctrl + V ) and you have a full
screenshot.
If you hold down the 'Alt' key with the Print screen key, you will
capture only the window that is on your screen, not the whole desk
top.
This sends it to Clipboard, now you can Paste it into Paint ( go to
Edit ) or any other Windows based graphics program.
Save as...
Save as type, select JPEG etc.
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If you need to crop it, put it in any Edit program and crop.
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Alastair Smeaton said:
Actually - what you should say is that pop peeper does this with your
set up - the leap you make is that because it happens to you, it WILL
happen to others - this despite others telling you this does not
happen to them, and giving you info from their faq which indicates
that this might be a server issue, and a rare one.

Anyway - reason for post ?

New version out, 2.41 - did not check, but it might help you :-)
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Reason for post was because someone else mentioned that it doesnt happen and
I know damned well it does as I have tested it on 6 different computers on 3
different networks (2 Hardwired and one wireless), regardless it does
happen. OK, so Ill say this "It MAY or MAY NOT" happen to you, however from
all indications IT WILL.
 
Reason for post was because someone else mentioned that it doesnt
happen and I know damned well it does as I have tested it on 6
different computers on 3 different networks (2 Hardwired and one
wireless), regardless it does happen. OK, so Ill say this "It MAY or
MAY NOT" happen to you, however from all indications IT WILL.
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Not sure what's wrong Jeff, I just checked my hotmail account with PP
and even read the messages and it did not delete them. I logged back on
to hotmail and the 13 messages I just read are still there.
 
burnr said:
Not sure what's wrong Jeff, I just checked my hotmail account with PP
and even read the messages and it did not delete them. I logged back on
to hotmail and the 13 messages I just read are still there.
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Wished the heck I could do the same, but it appears I am going to have to
delete PP and find something else. Question: Are you reading the emails in
PP then checking to see if they are still on the server? Or, are you just
looking at the headers and then going to check to see if they are on the
server?
 
Wished the heck I could do the same, but it appears I am going to have
to delete PP and find something else. Question: Are you reading the
emails in PP then checking to see if they are still on the server? Or,
are you just looking at the headers and then going to check to see if
they are on the server?
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Previewing. And to just to make sure, I cleared the cache before logging
back into hotmail. My setting is "Default Retrieval Option" = Preview.
I'm not sure how many lines are retrieved for a preview, but for me
anyway I haven't noticed only partial messages being retrieved but I
typically don't receive email that are huge.

The Default Message Viewing Option is Plain Text.

Right click the hotmail account and choose Edit, select the Advanced tab
and my "Retrieval Option" is set to Default

You might try the support forum for help.
http://www.poppeeper.com/Forums/
 
Jeff said:
Regardless of what others say, POP Peeper absolutely deletes the emails off
of the Yahoo and Hotmail servers as they are loaded onto POP Peeper. I have
attempted every setting and regardless, after numerous tests, POP Peeper
deletes the items off of the servers the second you download them to POP
Peeper.
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Garbage.
I have 2 installs of PP that don't. One on win2k and one on XPSP1
 
Reason for post was because someone else mentioned that it doesnt happen and
I know damned well it does as I have tested it on 6 different computers on 3
different networks (2 Hardwired and one wireless), regardless it does
happen. OK, so Ill say this "It MAY or MAY NOT" happen to you, however from
all indications IT WILL.
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Did you ever investigate the post from the FAQ where it says that some
email servers will delete messages if they are previewed ?

It may be a server issue for you, with your isp - or if you are using
your own internal server ?

Good luck
 
Alastair Smeaton said:
Did you ever investigate the post from the FAQ where it says that some
email servers will delete messages if they are previewed ?

It may be a server issue for you, with your isp - or if you are using
your own internal server ?

Good luck
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Thanks, yesterday evening I downloaded and installed the latest version and
it is no longer an issue. I have no idea what caused it originally but now
the messages are left on the server.
 
Thanks, yesterday evening I downloaded and installed the latest version and
it is no longer an issue. I have no idea what caused it originally but now
the messages are left on the server.
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good - so pop peeper is a pop keeper

I'll get my coat :-)
 
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