Pls! Help me fix this dummy

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IPRHE

i have a win2k server with DC running and various clients in my network. i
have a super dummy user here who give me enough headace about her log on
problem. i would like to do the following to easy my pain.

1. put a drop down menu of user names on the log on screen. this way she
won't misspell her logon user name. (i can put down certain usernames on the
log on menu, not all the user names of the DC)

2. since this is a xp computer, it will be to do something like the "click
on icon" log on screen.


if anyone know these, please tell me ASAP.

Thx alot!!!!
 
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Since you're in a domain environment you cannot use the Welcome screen
logon. You cannot prepopulate the username box with names either -
you'll have to write a custom GINA for that and it's a *very bad idea*
anyway from a security perspective. You can configure the computer to
automatically log on this user without prompting for username and
password which again is a *very bad idea* since everyone who has
physical access to the machine's power switch can log on as that user. I
would suggest that you either educate the users on how to accomplish
these tasks or use alternate methods of obtaining credentials like smart
cards or biometrics (with this she'll have to forget her thumb to be
unable to log on ;)).

Sorry I can't give you any solution, but there really isn't one.

HTH
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Cheers,
Marin Marinov
MCT, MCSE 2003/2000/NT4.0,
MCSE:Security 2003/2000, MCP+I
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IPRHE said:
i have a win2k server with DC running and various clients in my network. i
have a super dummy user here who give me enough headace about her log on
problem. i would like to do the following to easy my pain.

1. put a drop down menu of user names on the log on screen. this way she
won't misspell her logon user name. (i can put down certain usernames on the
log on menu, not all the user names of the DC)

2. since this is a xp computer, it will be to do something like the "click
on icon" log on screen.
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Reminds me of the story (probably fictitious, but funny anyway)
about the Dell techie who got frustrated with a half-wit who
had endless problems using her new computer. Told her to pack it
up in the original box and send it back to Dell because she was
"too ****ing stupid to own a computer."
 
<snip>
Since you're in a domain environment you cannot use the Welcome screen
logon. You cannot prepopulate the username box with names either -
you'll have to write a custom GINA for that and it's a *very bad idea*
anyway from a security perspective. You can configure the computer to
automatically log on this user without prompting for username and
password which again is a *very bad idea* since everyone who has
physical access to the machine's power switch can log on as that user. I
would suggest that you either educate the users on how to accomplish
these tasks or use alternate methods of obtaining credentials like smart
cards or biometrics (with this she'll have to forget her thumb to be
unable to log on ;)).

Sorry I can't give you any solution, but there really isn't one.

HTH
Click to expand...

I have had user's come in with their thumb and forfinger stuck together with
super glue<g>.


Jerold Schulman
Windows: General MVP
JSI, Inc.
http://www.jsiinc.com
 
<snip>
Users are amaizing creatures! ;)

--
Cheers,
Marin Marinov
MCT, MCSE 2003/2000/NT4.0,
MCSE:Security 2003/2000, MCP+I
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This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
 
I agree with the other replies. She needs to learn how to use her computer.
Can't she spell her own login name? Talk to her manager - maybe they need to
send her to a class or arrange for training or something. This is a 'social
engineering' issue.
 
I think you could supply her with one of those new "4 piece" computers. The
componenets are:

Typewriter, calculator, notepad, pen & pencils.

I hear these new computers are invulnerable to Virus', worms, and ......even
power outages if the new typewriter component is a "manual" and the
calculator has a battery. I don't think there has been too many lightning
strike problems either.

--

Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
 
Thanks for all the help and fact.
She's a big headace to me because she's the assistant of the CEO. Now i
force her to use whatever out there on computer.

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
 
If she wants continued employment, anywhere, she'd better learn how to do
the basics with working with computers. I realize you may get nowhere with
this, but it's a fact!
Thanks for all the help and fact.
She's a big headace to me because she's the assistant of the CEO. Now
i force her to use whatever out there on computer.

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
I agree with the other replies. She needs to learn how to use her
computer. Can't she spell her own login name? Talk to her manager -
maybe they need to send her to a class or arrange for training or
something. This is a 'social engineering' issue.
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IPRHE said:
Thanks for all the help and fact.
She's a big headace to me because she's the assistant of the CEO.
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If you haven't already, start documenting what you do to
"help" her. Keep a log with entries like:
25 May 2004, 8 am, Went to Martha's office to show her how
to enter her username and password so she could log on.
12 minutes.
25 May 2004, 9:32 am, Showed Martha how to enter her password
so she could unlock the screensaver when she came back from
getting coffee. 11 minutes.
26 May 2004, 8:02 am, Martha forgot her password so I gave
her a new one, and then went to her office to show her how to ....

Keep the entries strictly factual. Don't let any trace of
your contempt or scorn show in those entries. In other words,
just protect yourself by documenting how your time is wasted
by that user. If you get complaints about your performance,
only then do you trot out your log and say "Here's how a third
of every day is wasted."

With users that you think might have clout - such as someone
who has the ear of the CEO, it seldom pays to pre-emptively
take a log like this to her supervisor or to the personnel
manager. So long as no one complains about her job performance
or yours, just do your job as best you can and keep that log.

Consider also logging what you do with other users. This
provides a basis for comparison (ie., problem user vs
amount of time spent dealing with other users) if your log
is ever needed. It also makes your log seem a little more
impartial - and less like you are picking a bone with one
particular user.


If you already have a corporate logging system that you
are required to use for things like this, be sure to keep
hard copies. You wouldn't be the first one to find out that
someone stabbed you in the back by deleting or editting log
entries. My preference is to use a little notebook - handy
to jot things in as I go from server to server or user to
user - and then use my notes in those to create my entries
in the corporate log.
 
Hi,

You have quite a simple solution which is to use the Tweak UI
(Microsoft free download power toy) and perform an autologon on her
computer. So no more login name and password to remember. However this
can be very dangerous in term of security depending on where the
computer is physically located (in a close room it should be ok) and
what this computer contains in term of information and have access to.
Another idea is to use a small portable device for login on this
computer with the credential information stored into the portable
device. Portable device can be a smart card (which require a smart
card reader, or a USB token. If the portable device is too complicated
and may be she'll lost or forget it, you can use a fingerprint
biometric device attached to this computer. Hey this should fix your
problem...

Jeff Gailleur - http://ouala.com
 
Howdy!

I would be more inclined to agree with Lanwench that this is a 'Social
Engineering' problem. If someone cannot remember / enter correctly a user
name and password then I am not sure that there is any technology that is
going to help him / her. In fact, the good ole pad of paper and a really
good #2 pencil might just be the solution - well, not really!

It is unfortunate that there are people out there in the work force like
this, but there are. I think that this just makes things more interesting.

Cary
 
Cary Shultz said:
In fact, the good ole pad of paper and a really
good #2 pencil might just be the solution
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Yep. The pencil inserted about 4 inches into her left ear and the pad of
paper to soak up the mess........
 
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