Please put some information in subject line & not just help- Thanks

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I will try to help someone if I know something about what they need.
Please put some info. in the subject line as I shy away from those that say
Hello help or some other non desc. word.
thank you
 
slld said:
I will try to help someone if I know something about what they need.
Please put some info. in the subject line as I shy away from those that
say
Hello help or some other non desc. word.
thank you

Amen to that.

Also, when asking for a substitute that does the same thing as
"this-and-this" obscure program, tell us what the hell "this-and-this"
program does. People here don't have time to go off and research
"this-and-this" to find out what it does to then look for a substitute.

Besides, if you tell us what it is you are trying to accomplish we can
sometimes think of creative work arounds you haven't considered before.

M
 
Michael said:
Amen to that.

Also, when asking for a substitute that does the same thing as
"this-and-this" obscure program, tell us what the hell "this-and-this"
program does. People here don't have time to go off and research
"this-and-this" to find out what it does to then look for a substitute.

Besides, if you tell us what it is you are trying to accomplish we can
sometimes think of creative work arounds you haven't considered before.

M

And finally....
Google is your friend. Try it first (search Google groups too)
 
Michael Laplante said:
Amen to that.

Another Amen.

Subject should be a brief synopsis, or at least a key category name.
Besides the hopelessly generic "help", sometimes too people wrongly get
really cryptic. Subjects like "What I was thinking" or "I found this"
or (etc). Usually these are a result of poster not being thoughtful...

But there are occasions I get a suspicion that they go broad/vague to
try to hook a larger audience. That which is a mistake:

(1)Since those uninterested in the topic will merely be annoyed that they
had to download and unfold messages to learn the basic info that should have
been provided in the subject line.

(2)And since those interested in the actual topic within the message, those
who might well have had good assist to offer, they might well often bypass
messages without accurate or specific subject lines.

(When one's subscribed groups can offer up thousands of unread threads, one
gets selective on which threads to read...)
Also, when asking for a substitute that does the same thing as
"this-and-this" obscure program, tell us what the hell "this-and-this"
program does. People here don't have time to go off and research
"this-and-this" to find out what it does to then look for a substitute.

Besides, if you tell us what it is you are trying to accomplish we can
sometimes think of creative work arounds you haven't considered before.

Yours is a generous perspective. <rant> Myself, I get abruptly disgusted
when seeing a post naming a shareware program, then giving its URL, then
saying, "get me a freeware equivalent," all with no description of the
functionality.

As if freeware aficionados are supposed to go follow shareware links
and download shareware in order to help someone who is too lazy to type
out a brief description of what they are after. [!!]

My non-generous perspective, some of these times, is that such a user,
who clicked an advertisement on the web for a shareware, and who is too
lazy to write out a few sentences, this is precisely the type of user
who should just up and purchase the shareware that they saw, paying for
the hand-holding they need. After all, it takes someone with a wee bit
of native energy and curiosity to fully enjoy freeware.

There are occasions even when a message comes out looking just out-and-
out suspicious. As if it is just a sneaky way of shareware promo. Eg
"Where can I find a program so great as SomeShareware? Everyone, go visit
http://somesharewareURL.com/demo"

</rant>

Now, I have to say it is yours that is the better way of talking about the
problem. First, it is key advice for posters who honestly want their query
dealt with in a helpful well.

Better, secondly, because: Even for cases where the OP is indeed hopeless
(or too, even if they are indeed of ill intent & attempting shareware
promo)... it nevertheless holds that followups which wrench out the kinds
of functionality being brought up, from posters who then turn the discussion
to actual freeware usage, this makes for contributions which have the result
of benefiting the rest of us who read.
 
omega said:
Subject should be a brief synopsis, or at least a key category name.
Besides the hopelessly generic "help",

re good uses for "help". . .
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Posting.php

"Freeware Request"

<q> From: kqs_v1

In the windows user groups, "help" (aka HELP!!1) is my most useful kill
filter. If the poster is not thoughtful enough to provide a subject more
specific than that, tends he's not going to become more thoughtful or
informative in the course of the thread; so that subject line alone
tells me that the thread will be boring enough to ignore.
</q>

:)

Susan
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Posted to alt.comp.freeware
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Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org (not maintained)
 
Susan said:
re good uses for "help". . .
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/Posting.php

"Freeware Request"

<q> From: kqs_v1

In the windows user groups, "help" (aka HELP!!1) is my most useful kill
filter. If the poster is not thoughtful enough to provide a subject more
specific than that, tends he's not going to become more thoughtful or
informative in the course of the thread; so that subject line alone
tells me that the thread will be boring enough to ignore.
</q>

:)

Susan
--
Posted to alt.comp.freeware
Search alt.comp.freeware (or read it online):
http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search?q=+group:alt.comp.freeware
Pricelessware & ACF: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org (not maintained)

Wouldn't a filter on "help" also lose posts like "Help me yada yada" ?

Lou
 
Al said:
Not if it killed posts with only the one word.

I realize that but I think most filters scan the subject line and if the
word occurs then it is filtered.

Lou
 
I realize that but I think most filters scan the subject
line and if the word occurs then it is filtered.

Lou

Decent filter worthy of its name has a la

subject= ^Help$

(the subject is single word "Help" and nothing more, and
nothing less).

J
 
I realize that but I think most filters scan the subject line and if the
word occurs then it is filtered.

I don't know what reader you use. Agent uses regular expressions (of
its own design, but close to RegEx), so it's easy to specify whole
word and only word.
 
Decent filter worthy of its name has a la
subject= ^Help$
(the subject is single word "Help" and nothing more, and
nothing less).

Or (I forget the syntax) ^help<any number of non-alpha-numeric
symbols>$ To take care of subjects like "HELP!!!!!". "Help Me!"
wouldn't get filtered, nor would "I need help finding a program to
...."
 
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