Phishing domain?

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A friend of mine emails me, it could be "hi how are you" or it could
be a forwarded joke with attachments.
Either way Windows Mail (Vista Business) goes into overdrive, blocks
the email, displays everything in red and denies access to the
attachment(s) claiming it is a potential phishing risk.
I've googled the domain name and get nothing but thier home page.
I've never had an email do this before.
Any idea what gives?
 
From: "Jay" <[email protected]>

| A friend of mine emails me, it could be "hi how are you" or it could
| be a forwarded joke with attachments.
| Either way Windows Mail (Vista Business) goes into overdrive, blocks
| the email, displays everything in red and denies access to the
| attachment(s) claiming it is a potential phishing risk.
| I've googled the domain name and get nothing but thier home page.
| I've never had an email do this before.
| Any idea what gives?

Use another email client such as Pegasus Mail
 
You have a complete control over what Windows Mail is doing. You can lower
the security threshold if you want. You can set it up in a way that
suspicious messages will be thrown into a junk mail box for you to be
examined later.

Don't use any Pegasus. It is a highly inappropriate advice by David Lipman.
Windows Live mail is capable of working the way you want. Just give it a bit
of thought.
 
AlexB said:
Don't use any Pegasus. It is a highly inappropriate advice by David
Lipman. Windows Live mail is capable of working the way you want. Just
give it a bit of thought.
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What's wrong with Pegasus Mail? It was what I used to send my first email,
in 1994 at Sheffield University.

I know that you are an senile old duffer, but it's obvious you are new to
the internet.

ss.
 
From: "AlexB" <[email protected]>

| You have a complete control over what Windows Mail is doing. You can lower
| the security threshold if you want. You can set it up in a way that
| suspicious messages will be thrown into a junk mail box for you to be
| examined later.
|
| Don't use any Pegasus. It is a highly inappropriate advice by David Lipman.
| Windows Live mail is capable of working the way you want. Just give it a bit
| of thought.
|


Pegasus Mail is a highly capable email application.

It has regular expressions and rules for email filtering and can delete email off a POP3
server such that you never even download the email. Its regular expression and rules based
filtering are far more capable than WinMail's rules based filtering with a small OS
footprint. The distribution file is only 7.1MB. It is also easy to port from system to
system.

It has the SpamHalter intellegent spam filter.

IT has WhiteLists and BlackLists.

It has built-in phishing filters.

It has limited HTML rendering using BearHTML.

It supports LDAP lookups.

It supports templates and mailmerge.

It has no depencency on the Registry.

That's not all, there's more.

Pegasus Mail has been around for a very long time (circa 4th qtr 1989), long before OE and
its offspring WinMail.

It also has built-in compliancy for Novell Netware and can be the Netware server's office
email package which includes; chat, noticeboards, circulation messages and seeing logged on
users.

It is NEVER inappropriate to suggest an alternate application. Especially when it is better
and when it works on; Win9x/ME, NT, Win2K, WinXP and Vista. I have been using P-Mail,
since I was on win3.x, as my primary email application.
http://www.pmail.com/

**What is inapproprate is you use of foul language here (albeit obfuscated to pass the MS
News Filters) and your trolling. It is also inappropriate to ask for proof and when it is
provided you ignore it completely.
 
Synapse Syndrome said:
What's wrong with Pegasus Mail? It was what I used to send my first
email, in 1994 at Sheffield University.
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I too sent my first email in 94 using Pegasus.
I'm just curious as to what is triggering this alert.
Same user/domain, different thread/subject. Everytime bingo!
Doesn't happen when he emails my Work address.... Exchange/Outlook/XP

What constitues a suspect email (phishing) in Windows Mail? If I knew the
criteria I would know what to look for.
 
AlexB said:
You have a complete control over what Windows Mail is doing. You can lower
the security threshold if you want. You can set it up in a way that
suspicious messages will be thrown into a junk mail box for you to be
examined later.
Click to expand...

I looked around Windows Mail and saw no options/preferences for phishing
settings.
I looked in IE and my filtering is disabled.
Where do I find this control over Windows Mail?
 
Jay; AlexB is a dangerous BOOFHEAD.

If you re-read his post, he starts off talking about Windows Mail; then in
the second paragraph, he changes the tale to Windows Live Mail.

Totally different programs!

AlexB has an agenda to screw people's computers(thus the wrong info), as he
is computer illiterate, but uses Linux at home!!
 
You better rewrite your reply because that went completely over his head :>)
To technical, tone it down a bit, did I say bit? I mean a lot. >)

--
All the best,
SG

ALEX NICHOL
(1935-2005)
http://www.aumha.org/alex.htm
You will never be forgotten my friend
 
What is wrong with Windows Live Mail? Why is it so if a youngster does not
know how to handle his email browser he has to pay for an extra feature to
some crooks instead of learning to use what is available? WHY? WHY? WHY?

How come I get all my emails with attachments with no problem?

How come millions have no problem either?

I did not expect that from David Lipman. He was throwing his weight around
pretending to be a security expert with some supraliminal knowledge and
instead he is recommending something that potentially only can cause more
problems. How do you know that Pegasus would be consistent with Vista? What
if the next update will throw it out of balance or what? Who is going to
respond to his complaints? David Lipman? Idiot Synaptic Syndrome?

Who cares if it was first used in 1994?

You are an obnoxious idiot. Just shut up if you do not care about people.
 
Read my other post.

FYI, the OP youngster will NEVER, EVER be able to handle those sophisticated
filtering rules.

No, I do not ignore any proof. He DOES NOT need your Pegasus. I am using
Windows Mail with no problem. I am getting all attachments.

You can never guarantee that your Pegasus that deletes phishing email and
other spam on the server will not one day delete mistakenly an important
message that may be a life or death for someone. Pegasus is taking too much
upon itself. It happened to me at least three times. I fished out of my junk
mail older ostensibly junk emails that came from very important but unusual
sources.

David Lipman, you advice is based on technical considerations. It is dry, it
does not take into account human factor. Your advices is HIGHLY
INAPPROPRIATE under the circumstances.

I could have understood if you offered it as an alternative in a discussion.
That would be fine. If you considered all factors. You did not. You just
threw in your idiotic Pegasus as a salvation. It is highly inappropriate.
 
Who cares if it was first used in 1994?
Click to expand...

Pegasus is a very well respected program with a long history.
I'm pretty sure they pre-date Exchange. Pegasus originally ran on Netware.
 
Jay, it is amazing, nobody actually told you what to do. Especially that
insane idiot Mick Murphy.

Got to Control Panel>>Network and Internet>>Internet
Options>>Security>>there is a bar on the left. Lower it if you want to take
chances.

Also go to Start>>Email>>Security>>Read the options. you can check or
uncheck whatever you want.

NB: It is better to keep you security high and find out why the attachments
are being blocked. Perhaps they do contain viruses or dangerous Trojans.
Find out. do some research. the web is full of this information. Ask
meaningful questions in here.
 
AlexB said:
Read my other post.

FYI, the OP youngster will NEVER, EVER be able to handle those
sophisticated filtering rules.
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Begging your pardon but I (the OP) am a database administrator and
programmer who has been using windows since 3.11.
I'm pretty sure I could apply any of the out of the box rules plus write a
few more of my own.
 
AlexB said:
Jay, it is amazing, nobody actually told you what to do. Especially that
insane idiot Mick Murphy.

Got to Control Panel>>Network and Internet>>Internet
Options>>Security>>there is a bar on the left. Lower it if you want to
take chances.

Also go to Start>>Email>>Security>>Read the options. you can check or
uncheck whatever you want.

NB: It is better to keep you security high and find out why the
attachments are being blocked. Perhaps they do contain viruses or
dangerous Trojans. Find out. do some research. the web is full of this
information. Ask meaningful questions in here.
Click to expand...

The meaningful question was (and is) what could have caused the email to be
considered a potential phishing threat.
What is WM's criteria?
Received as text only, a single URL (email signature) which resolved to the
domain it reported to represent.
 
From: "Jay" <[email protected]>


| Begging your pardon but I (the OP) am a database administrator and
| programmer who has been using windows since 3.11.
| I'm pretty sure I could apply any of the out of the box rules plus write a
| few more of my own.
|

I have no doubt you will like the latest version of P-Mail as I noted you is over 10 years
ago. I also have no doubt that you would be an apt and capable user.
 
Synapse said:
What's wrong with Pegasus Mail? It was what I used to send my first
email, in 1994 at Sheffield University.
Click to expand...

It's not a genuine Micros~1 product. As such it may void your warranty and
magically cause toads to appear in your blender (fortunately, there is an
easy remedy for the latter).
 
What's wrong with Pegasus Mail? It was what I used to send my first
email, in 1994 at Sheffield University.
Click to expand...

Not a thing, I use it on my Vista system and my wife's XP SP2 system.
Very full featured, including a Bayesian SPAM filter. And the price is
definitely right: free!

www.pmail.com
 
Tim said:
Not a thing, I use it on my Vista system and my wife's XP SP2 system.
Very full featured, including a Bayesian SPAM filter. And the price is
definitely right: free!

www.pmail.com
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Careful there Tim! Frank and his sidekicks will start labelling you
a "spammer".

Cheers.

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Frank, hard at work on his Vista computer all day:
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