Open source alternative to Maple?

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Hi,

I'm using Maple, a document management program made
by Crystal Office Systems and, I was wondering if
there's an open source program that's identical to it.

Thanks.
 
I thought I'd take a look at this site because, after all, this tagline
was included in a post submitted by a human to this forum. I immediately
got a warning -- the URL is on a hosts file downloaded from one of the
security services, such as Spybot Search and Destroy. But, surely this
must be a mistake, right? I plowed on.

Arriving at the /mipisti page, I decided to check the main hosting site
-- for the GNA group. WHAM! WinPatrol put a screen in my face: the site
was trying to clandestinely change both my Windows Media Player and my
Media Player Classic.

What the hell!

Hey, Mr/Mrs/Ms js5895: would you please explain this behavior!

Richard
 
Richard Steinfeld said:
I thought I'd take a look at this site because, after all, this tagline
was included in a post submitted by a human to this forum. I immediately
got a warning -- the URL is on a hosts file downloaded from one of the
security services, such as Spybot Search and Destroy. But, surely this
must be a mistake, right? I plowed on.

Arriving at the /mipisti page, I decided to check the main hosting site
-- for the GNA group. WHAM! WinPatrol put a screen in my face: the site
was trying to clandestinely change both my Windows Media Player and my
Media Player Classic.

What the hell!

Hey, Mr/Mrs/Ms js5895: would you please explain this behavior!

Richard
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I'm a little confused myself, like how my subject line
got changed to "Warning!!!". This is just a guess but,
I think you went to: https://gna.org/projects/mipisti,
which is in Bernd Schmitt's signature. I don't have
anything to do with that site.

js5895
 
I thought I'd take a look at this site because, after all, this tagline
was included in a post submitted by a human to this forum. I immediately
got a warning -- the URL is on a hosts file downloaded from one of the
security services, such as Spybot Search and Destroy. But, surely this
must be a mistake, right? I plowed on.

Arriving at the /mipisti page, I decided to check the main hosting site
-- for the GNA group. WHAM! WinPatrol put a screen in my face: the site
was trying to clandestinely change both my Windows Media Player and my
Media Player Classic.

What the hell!

Hey, Mr/Mrs/Ms js5895: would you please explain this behavior!

Richard
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Did you bypass the Site Certificate WARNING that the site was UNTRUSTED?

The tagline was from a message posted by Bernd Schmitt, so why should
js5895 explain anything about gna.org?

After reading all your long winded posts about security and about your
do's and don'ts and your likes and dislikes, I find it hard to believe
that you violated your own rules and surfed unsafely, which is what you
did when you ignored the warning you got about gna.org being listed in
your HOSTS File. If anything, you should be the one explaining your
behavior. ;-)
 
Hi Richard,

Richard said:
I thought I'd take a look at this site because, after all, this tagline
was included in a post submitted by a human to this forum. I immediately
got a warning -- the URL is on a hosts file downloaded from one of the
security services, such as Spybot Search and Destroy. But, surely this
must be a mistake, right? I plowed on.

Arriving at the /mipisti page, I decided to check the main hosting site
-- for the GNA group. WHAM! WinPatrol put a screen in my face: the site
was trying to clandestinely change both my Windows Media Player and my
Media Player Classic.
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Sorry, but this is not clear to me.
This site does not anything like you describe.
Nor the MiPiSti site neither the gna.org homepage.
This is a site similiar to sourceforge or gnu. Its purpose is giving a
development platform for developers.
The olny thing may be that it uses a signature not known to your pc.

Please explain, what exactly was the message from which program, so I
can check and give your informations to the admin of MiPiSti and the
admin of gna.org.


Tnank you,
Bernd
 
Mel said:
Did you bypass the Site Certificate WARNING that the site was UNTRUSTED?

The tagline was from a message posted by Bernd Schmitt, so why should
js5895 explain anything about gna.org?

After reading all your long winded posts about security and about your
do's and don'ts and your likes and dislikes, I find it hard to believe
that you violated your own rules and surfed unsafely, which is what you
did when you ignored the warning you got about gna.org being listed in
your HOSTS File. If anything, you should be the one explaining your
behavior. ;-)
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Why?
 
LOL!

I was wondering the same thing. ;-)
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Simple
I changed it.[/QUOTE]

And then you demanded of a poster who hadn't posted a link what the
held was going on with the link that he/she didn't post.

I believe it's considered polite to read the attributions before
demanding explanations about links from people who didn't post those
links.
 
Bernd said:
Hi Richard,



Sorry, but this is not clear to me.
This site does not anything like you describe.
Nor the MiPiSti site neither the gna.org homepage.
This is a site similiar to sourceforge or gnu. Its purpose is giving a
development platform for developers.
The olny thing may be that it uses a signature not known to your pc.

Please explain, what exactly was the message from which program, so I
can check and give your informations to the admin of MiPiSti and the
admin of gna.org.


Tnank you,
Bernd
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Hi, Bernd.
Shure!

I used IE and loaded this URL: https://gna.org/projects/mipisti.
I got a message from Internet Explorer:
"Security Alert
! The security certificate was issued by a company that you have not
chosen to trust. View the certificate to determine whether you want to
trust the certifying authority."

The View Certificate window produced this:
"This CA Root certificate is not trusted because it is not in the
Trusted Root Certification Authorities store."
I'm not familiar with this message, and frankly, I didn't know what to
make of this.

I decided to test a couple of security programs and so, I continued past
the warning screen, arriving at https://gna.org/projects/mipisti

I then was curious about the nature of what had produced the warning
from IE. Note that on your page, https://gna.org/projects/mipisti, there
was no warning (and I have a hunch that it's perfectly safe) But I was
still curious, so I went to the home page of the host: I clicked on the
Gna!-head at the upper left screen corner.

That's when WinPatrol flashed the message that an attempt was being made
to change my media player settings.

Bernd, in the course of writing this reply to you, I've duplicated the
actions that I used earlier today. This time, I did not get any warning
at the host's home page. I wasn't running any other internet connections
at that time. So, I don't know how to explain this either. The first
warning has been consistent. The second one, obviously, was not.

Sorry if this has been a false alarm. The coincidence between the two
events was what was alarming. I believe you about the intent of the site.

Richard
 
Hello Richard,

could you please give me more details about your warning?

I can not reproduce your warnings/errors.

gna.org has nothing to do with any gna-group whatever.
gna.org is a development platform for free software.
gna.org is using a self produced signature, so your browser should give
you a warning that this signature is not known by your pc (if visiting
the site first time). That is normal for self produced signatures.

TIA,
Bernd
 
Hi Richard,


Richard said:
Bernd said:
Richard said:
https://gna.org/projects/mipisti - (microscope) picture stitching
I thought I'd take a look at this site [...]
Arriving at the /mipisti page, I decided to check the main hosting
site -- for the GNA group. WHAM! WinPatrol put a screen in my face:
the site was trying to clandestinely change both my Windows Media
Player and my Media Player Classic.
Click to expand...
Sorry, but this is not clear to me.
This site does not anything like you describe.
Nor the MiPiSti site neither the gna.org homepage. [...]
The olny thing may be that it uses a signature not known to your pc.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
I used IE and loaded this URL: https://gna.org/projects/mipisti.
I got a message from Internet Explorer:
"Security Alert
! The security certificate was issued by a company that you have not
chosen to trust. View the certificate to determine whether you want to
trust the certifying authority."
The View Certificate window produced this:
"This CA Root certificate is not trusted because it is not in the
Trusted Root Certification Authorities store."
I'm not familiar with this message, and frankly, I didn't know what to
make of this.
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Let me try to explain.
This site uses https, that means it uses a signature and encrypts your
input and its own output (the html you see). This signature is self
produced (because it is no magic to do so). This signature is not
"rubber stamped" by any "trust"-company.
Why?
Its purpose is, that if you want to download things from gna.org you can
be sure that your download is really originating from gna.org - your
session should not be captured by another site pretending to be gna.org.
It is not a bank or an online trading system, so no "trust"-company is
needed therefore.
Normally downloads are signed by their authors, so you can verify their
origin twice! AFAIK the sources of mipisti are signed, too.

But after all, this behaviour is just a foretaste what will happen if
people will use "longhorn"/"vista" windows, holy
trusted-network-computing ... Out there in the non m$-world there is a
lot of security ;)

I then was curious about the nature of what had produced the warning
from IE. Note that on your page, https://gna.org/projects/mipisti, there
was no warning (and I have a hunch that it's perfectly safe) But I was
still curious, so I went to the home page of the host: I clicked on the
Gna!-head at the upper left screen corner.
Click to expand...
AFAIK this gnu leads to https://gna.org.
Sorry if this has been a false alarm. The coincidence between the two
events was what was alarming. I believe you about the intent of the site.
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No problem. There is always the possibility that a "secure" server gets
cracked, so better to be aware and have some false alarms ...



Ciao,
Bernd
 
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