one xp, two computers

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We have two computers at home (not networked)and one xp
that came with the home business computer. Can we
legitimately install that xp on our personal computer at
home without any problems?
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If your copy of windows XP "came with your pc" like OEM
installed , even if you have the XP disc you can only
register it on one comp (at least thats what MS told me)i
tried to myself but you only have 30 days and thats it.i
had the same situation , i wanted to put winXP on my kids
comp but now i have to buy yet another copy of XP because
mine came with my comp also.seems like a racket to me.
 
Greetings --

Let me see if I understand you: You've been thwarted in your
attempt to pirate (steal, in plain English) software, and you're
calling the anti-theft measures a "racket?"

Bruce Chambers

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Bruce Chambers said:
Greetings --

Let me see if I understand you: You've been thwarted in your
attempt to pirate (steal, in plain English) software, and you're
calling the anti-theft measures a "racket?"

Bruce Chambers

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Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
having both at once. -- RAH
Well in the UK, you buy one TV licence which allowes you to use more than
one TV in the house.
And when did you ever have to buy one audio cd/video tape/dvd disc per
player, hmmm if the companies could get away with it I am sure thats what we
would have to do.
so Mr I rob you silly Microsoft could be a little more generous.
And lets be honest a pc can't do anything without somesort of operating
system, unlike other items you buy ready to use with no further purchase
needed.
Just imagine going out and buying any electronic item, say a dvd player and
getting it home only to find you have to go and buy the firmware to make it
work.
And on the subject of stealing software, just remember who started the ball
rolling so many years ago
Look it up if you don't know or can't remember.
So the debate continues, everyone has their own views and beliefs, and
Microsoft will be making more and more money no matter what.
Also there seems to be two distinct opinions.
1.Honest folk that buy all their software hate the people that use pirated
software.
2.Folks who use pirated software hate the honest buyers of software.
The moral of the story is that as long as people keep buying it it will
always be available, and at what ever cost the maker thinks he can get away
with.
But if less and less people bought it the maker would have two choices
listen to its customers and change or go out of buisness.
who's right who's wrong, thats amatter of opinion.
 
Paul B said:
Well in the UK, you buy one TV licence which allowes you to use more than
one TV in the house.

In one house.
And when did you ever have to buy one audio cd/video tape/dvd disc per
player, hmmm if the companies could get away with it I am sure thats what we
would have to do.

Do you have the right to make copies OF that CD/video tape/DVD and stick it
in each player? No. Typically, you have the right to make A BACKUP COPY,
yes. But not to play in multiple players at once.
so Mr I rob you silly Microsoft could be a little more generous.

They're a business. "Rob you silly?" Because they want you to actually *pay
for* what you use? Sure, some of their prices are high, I'll give you
that... but then again, that's why I'm running OpenOffice. Choices, not
piracy, thankyouverymuch.
And lets be honest a pc can't do anything without somesort of operating
system, unlike other items you buy ready to use with no further purchase
needed.

Fine. Want one you don't have to pay for? Linux. FreeBSD. OpenDOS. BeOS PE
(or one of the "remade" versions.) MacOS 6. 7. 7.1, 7.5... oh, wait, those
don't run on a PC.
Just imagine going out and buying any electronic item, say a dvd player and
getting it home only to find you have to go and buy the firmware to make it
work.

Have to buy DVDs for the DVD player, don't you?
And on the subject of stealing software, just remember who started the ball
rolling so many years ago

Consumers. Piracy was rampant pre-Microsoft. I remember seeing stacks of
floppies and cassette tapes for TI 99/4As, Commodores and the like. No
Microsoft involved. Microsoft didn't even exist then.

Then there's the "cross pollinization" of Unix (tm) and BSD.
Look it up if you don't know or can't remember.

Should take your own advice.
So the debate continues, everyone has their own views and beliefs, and
Microsoft will be making more and more money no matter what.

They're a business. Don't like them? Run a different OS. Use different
office suites. Use a different browser. Nobody's *forcing* you to use
Microsoft anything. Hell, go buy a Mac. Oh, wait, they're there to make
money, too.
Also there seems to be two distinct opinions.
1.Honest folk that buy all their software hate the people that use pirated
software.

Gee, wonder why. Could it be because they keep having to deal with MORE
anti-piracy, copy protection, and/or activation schemes while their prices
go UP?
2.Folks who use pirated software hate the honest buyers of software.

Hadn't heard that one before. What, jealous that they get support, manuals,
and patches that don't disable the pirated software?
The moral of the story is that as long as people keep buying it it will
always be available, and at what ever cost the maker thinks he can get away
with.

Capitalism's a wonderful thing, eh?
But if less and less people bought it the maker would have two choices
listen to its customers and change or go out of buisness.

Hmmm, no, there's "improve the product," "compete," "go out of business,"
"find out why people aren't buying," and/or "do whatever is needed to
prevent theft of their product."
who's right who's wrong, thats amatter of opinion.

Hmmm. Purchasing and using legitimately, right.
Theft, wrong. Strangly, the law's on the side of that "opinion."

Nit.
 
EGMcCann said:
In one house.
what

Do you have the right to make copies OF that CD/video tape/DVD and stick it
in each player? No. Typically, you have the right to make A BACKUP COPY,
yes. But not to play in multiple players at once.


They're a business. "Rob you silly?" Because they want you to actually *pay
for* what you use? Sure, some of their prices are high, I'll give you
that... but then again, that's why I'm running OpenOffice. Choices, not
piracy, thankyouverymuch.


Fine. Want one you don't have to pay for? Linux. FreeBSD. OpenDOS. BeOS PE
(or one of the "remade" versions.) MacOS 6. 7. 7.1, 7.5... oh, wait, those
don't run on a PC.


Have to buy DVDs for the DVD player, don't you?


Consumers. Piracy was rampant pre-Microsoft. I remember seeing stacks of
floppies and cassette tapes for TI 99/4As, Commodores and the like. No
Microsoft involved. Microsoft didn't even exist then.

Then there's the "cross pollinization" of Unix (tm) and BSD.


Should take your own advice.


They're a business. Don't like them? Run a different OS. Use different
office suites. Use a different browser. Nobody's *forcing* you to use
Microsoft anything. Hell, go buy a Mac. Oh, wait, they're there to make
money, too.


Gee, wonder why. Could it be because they keep having to deal with MORE
anti-piracy, copy protection, and/or activation schemes while their prices
go UP?


Hadn't heard that one before. What, jealous that they get support, manuals,
and patches that don't disable the pirated software?


Capitalism's a wonderful thing, eh?


Hmmm, no, there's "improve the product," "compete," "go out of business,"
"find out why people aren't buying," and/or "do whatever is needed to
prevent theft of their product."


Hmmm. Purchasing and using legitimately, right.
Theft, wrong. Strangly, the law's on the side of that "opinion."

Nit.
Over priced if you have to buy a copy per pc you own.
Where do you draw the line, how many folks have not recorded off the radio
onto tape, video recorded off the terestrial tv channels, copied an audio cd
onto tape because their car came with a tape player not a dvd.
Nothing to do with jealousy, wether piracy is right or wrong folks do it and
use it because they either can or they can't afford to do otherwise.
So who is really jealous of who, are you jealous because you are honourable
and honest and have to pay for every piece of software you use which is your
choice, and mr pirate gets it free!!!.
Just because someone has a monopoly on something doesn't make it right to
charge an arm and a leg.
Freedom of speach you are welcome to, choice of opinion also, but let's not
lower the tone by name calling.
You have your opinion and I have mine as do others, I am not saying piracy
is any more right than ripping folks off is right.
Wether the law or religion says one or the other it still comes down to
freedom of choice and opinion.
Take a long look at nature and see how well the animal kingdom was doing
until man came along.
Its not right what the human race has been doing to the planet is it but it
goes on wether you or me like it or not.
The rule of nature take only what you need to survive no more no less, and
do what ever it takes to survive, thats nature.
But I ask myself this, how come so many people would not dream of stealing a
single item, but are quite happy to use pirated software/dvd's/video's/cd's
etc and not feel guilty about it, they don't consider it as theft.
Why is that i wonder?.
Have a nice day.
 
Yes in one house, is it too much to ask to be able to use it on say your own
pc and one of your childrens in the same house??.
These day's more and more of the children's home work involves a pc.
And a lot of parents have to work from home as well as at the office.
Fairer prices would be nice.
 
Fine. Want one you don't have to pay for? Linux. FreeBSD. OpenDOS.
BeOS PE (or one of the "remade" versions.) MacOS 6. 7. 7.1, 7.5... oh,
wait, those don't run on a PC.

That arguement does hold. If I want to run Windows based programs,
which are the makority, I have to run Windows ( Sorry, Wine doesn't run
all Win based programs ). So my choices are to run Window are cripple my
producivity.


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David

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