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Does Vista Come with Office? And when I say office, I mean word, powerpoint,
excel,etc... I am itnrested in getting it but only if it has those, Because I
am currently just using trials for word, powerpoint,etc...
 
Alex said:
Does Vista Come with Office? And when I say office, I mean word,
powerpoint,
excel,etc... I am itnrested in getting it but only if it has those,
Because I
am currently just using trials for word, powerpoint,etc...
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Nope.
Office has always been a separate, from the OS, chargeable product
 
No. Office has NEVER been an integral part of a Microsoft operating system.
You'll have to purchase it. However, you do not have to purchase the very
latest version. I am using Office 2003, which includes those programs you
mentioned, and more. Perhaps you can find a copy on Ebay. Should be cheaper
than a brand new version. Almost forgot, Office 2003 works just fine on
Vista, and will accept updates from Microsoft.
 
Retired said:
That will never happen.
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You're not kidding.
I think Office accounts for around 20% of Microsoft profits.
I can't see them just chucking that away.
 
Does Vista Come with Office? And when I say office, I mean word, powerpoint,
excel,etc... I am itnrested in getting it but only if it has those, Because I
am currently just using trials for word, powerpoint,etc...
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It does not. But you can freely download OpenOffice.org. OOo has virtually
all the functionality of MS Office except full macro support. It will read
and write proprietary MS and WP formats as well as standards.
 
ray said:
It does not. But you can freely download OpenOffice.org. OOo has virtually
all the functionality of MS Office except full macro support. It will read
and write proprietary MS and WP formats as well as standards.
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Lets not mislead anyone about the real compatibility of OO vs Word &
Wordperfect.

"Virtually" is not everything.

"Except" is not everything.

And it will not read & write all proprietary MS and WP formats. It will
never do all of those things seamlessly and completely. And those are
the "flies in the ointment" that keep it and all other word processors
from becoming that popular.
Frank
 
Frank said:
Lets not mislead anyone about the real compatibility of OO vs Word &
Wordperfect.

"Virtually" is not everything.

"Except" is not everything.

And it will not read & write all proprietary MS and WP formats. It will
never do all of those things seamlessly and completely. And those are the
"flies in the ointment" that keep it and all other word processors from
becoming that popular.
Frank
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If the OP had to ask that question, he won't run out of function with
OpenOffice any time soon.
 
Alex said:
Does Vista Come with Office? And when I say office, I mean word,
powerpoint,
excel,etc... I am itnrested in getting it but only if it has those,
Because I
am currently just using trials for word, powerpoint,etc...
Click to expand...



Neither the Microsoft Office application suite, nor any of its
individual component applications (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Access, Outlook,
etc.), have _ever_ been "part" of *any* Windows operating system. They are,
and always have been, separate applications, that must be purchased and
installed separately.


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Lets not mislead anyone about the real compatibility of OO vs Word &
Wordperfect.

"Virtually" is not everything.

"Except" is not everything.

And it will not read & write all proprietary MS and WP formats. It will
never do all of those things seamlessly and completely. And those are
the "flies in the ointment" that keep it and all other word processors
from becoming that popular.
Frank
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Really - what specific problems have you encountered recently?
 
ray said:
Really - what specific problems have you encountered recently?
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Ok. I have been in the marketing/advertising/design business (owner)
since '78. I deal with a tremendously very wide variety of businesses
which require that I have an extremely very wide variety of software
installed to absolutely, positively 100% guarantee that I see exactly
what they send to me in it's original form. And that they will see
exactly the same thing I see when I send/return something to them. I get
..doc, .wpd, crd, cpt, psd, etc type files. You need the original
software to correctly view and work on these files.
I have used the same test file for years in determining the conversion
proficiency of one software application to another. It is an actual
clients small 46 page four color brochure that taught me a lesson the
hard way (by costing me money!). It is a .doc document that contains
simple text, excel spreadsheets with inserted graphs and various
graphics along with different fonts. It looks simple enough but I have
yet to successfully convert it from one editable file form to another
and retain the absolute original format. PDF format notwithstanding. Not
using OO, WP, Publisher, Ventura, InDesign, Pagemaker, Quark or any
other software application. You name it, I think I've got it!
BTW, I just tried using OO 2.2 to open my test file. No go! Makes a mess
out of it. I remember just how much Scott McNealy hated, outright hated
MS and Bill Gates and OO was his way of doing...something to them.
OO is pretty close, but still no cigar.
It'll never work for a business but it might be ok for an individual who
has not need for absolute compatibility.
Other than that, OO is just another proprietary file format.
Frank
 
BTW, I just tried using OO 2.2 to open my test file. No go! Makes a mess
out of it. I remember just how much Scott McNealy hated, outright hated
MS and Bill Gates and OO was his way of doing...something to them.
OO is pretty close, but still no cigar.
It'll never work for a business but it might be ok for an individual who
has not need for absolute compatibility.
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I believe that might be the category the OP is in.
Other than that, OO is just another proprietary file format.
Frank
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From my understanding, OO default is not a proprietary format it is an
open standard. At least, the particulars are published for everyone to see.
 
Frank said:
Lets not mislead anyone about the real compatibility of OO vs Word &
Wordperfect.

"Virtually" is not everything.

"Except" is not everything.

And it will not read & write all proprietary MS and WP formats. It will
never do all of those things seamlessly and completely. And those are the
"flies in the ointment" that keep it and all other word processors from
becoming that popular.
Frank
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Frank, for everyday use at home, I have found Open Office to be a valid
alternative to Office - and it is a whole lot cheaper. I have tried reading
word processing files created by one platform into the other platform
without any editing required afterwards, but I knew that file compatibility
issues might have occurred (it didn't).

As you implied, use of OO in a business is problematic because of these
compatibility issues. However, if all one is going to do is create files for
their own personal use, then OO is a great tool that is free. I also use
free versions of AVG (anti-virus) and Ad-Aware (anti-spyware), which are way
better and far less intrusive than Norton.

Regards.
 
Retired said:
Frank, for everyday use at home, I have found Open Office to be a valid
alternative to Office - and it is a whole lot cheaper. I have tried reading
word processing files created by one platform into the other platform
without any editing required afterwards, but I knew that file compatibility
issues might have occurred (it didn't).

As you implied, use of OO in a business is problematic because of these
compatibility issues. However, if all one is going to do is create files for
their own personal use, then OO is a great tool that is free. I also use
free versions of AVG (anti-virus) and Ad-Aware (anti-spyware), which are way
better and far less intrusive than Norton.

Regards.
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Yep! I agree.
Frank
 
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