NTFS on base computer, Fat 32 on client

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I'm finally ready to install Windows XP on the old 98SE
computer in the home network, but my son loves those DOS
games so I'm planning a dual boot 98SE/XP installation. I
guess that means using FAT32for the XP installation on the
old computer. Does this compromise my ability to access
files (Word, Excel, etc.) on the new computer which uses XP
NTFS and is the base computer for my home network if I log
in from the old computer in XP FAT32 mode?
In a separate but related question, I have 2 hard drives in
the old computer each 80 GB. Does it make sense to put XP
on the second hard drive (which is now empty), or just
install it on the original 98SE hard drive in its own
partition? Thanks for your help.
 
File system is irrelevant over a network.
So long as you have the proper credentials to access the file, you'll be
able to access it regardless of the file system on the "other" machine.
 
Thank you Jason, I just read the OP and was trying to figure a simple way to
say what you just did.

Have a good one, JAX
 
Tom said:
I'm finally ready to install Windows XP on the old 98SE
computer in the home network, but my son loves those DOS
games so I'm planning a dual boot 98SE/XP installation. I
guess that means using FAT32for the XP installation on the
old computer. Does this compromise my ability to access
files (Word, Excel, etc.) on the new computer which uses XP
NTFS and is the base computer for my home network if I log
in from the old computer in XP FAT32 mode?

It doesn't. But if you are setting up a dual boot system on the other
machine, you will need to divide it into two partitions anyway. You
should shrink the Win98 to leave free space and then run the XP CD from
the 98, taking New INstall and pointing the place to install to be in
that unallocated space, making a new partition - which can be NTFS if
desired. You will have to hit ESC when it asks where to put the system,
so as to be able to get away from it trying to put it on top of the 98
(*not* good news). This will set up a dual boot that starts off in the
Win98 FAT 32 partition, then if you choose XP passes the buck there
(which will probably see itself as letter D: don't worry about that).

To shrink the 98 partition you will need third party software -
Partition Magic or BootIT NG, from http://www.BootitNG.com ($35
shareware - 30 day full functional trial)

Files in NTFS and FAT 32 are no different, and can be passed to and fro
over a network. Or XP will be able to see and use both partitions at
choice. Think of it as like two offices - one with old fashioned Box
files on shelves; the other with suspended folders in cabinets. You can
transfer letters from one to the other. But 98 does not know how to
open a drawer. . .
 
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Tom said:
I'm finally ready to install Windows XP on the old 98SE
computer in the home network, but my son loves those DOS
games so I'm planning a dual boot 98SE/XP installation. I
guess that means using FAT32for the XP installation on the
old computer. Does this compromise my ability to access
files (Word, Excel, etc.) on the new computer which uses XP
NTFS and is the base computer for my home network if I log
in from the old computer in XP FAT32 mode?

The file systems on the various computers communicating over a
network are completely irrelevant, as none of the individual
computers' operating systems ever directly access the other computers'
hard drives. Instead, a computer sends a "request," if you will, for
the desired data, and the operating system of the host ("receiving")
computer accesses its own hard drive (whose file system it obviously
can read) and then sends that data back to the requesting computer as
neutral packets of information that are completely independent of the
file systems on the respective computers. After all, don't you use a
Windows-based PC (whether it's FAT32 or NTFS) to access data stored on
the Internet's mostly Unix servers, which use a completely different
file system?
In a separate but related question, I have 2 hard drives in
the old computer each 80 GB. Does it make sense to put XP
on the second hard drive (which is now empty), or just
install it on the original 98SE hard drive in its own
partition? Thanks for your help.

You can do it either way.

The simplest way I've found to dual boot between Win9x and WinXP
would be to partition your drive(s) roughly as follows:

C: Primary FAT32 Win9x/Legacy Apps
D: Extended NTFS WinXP/Modern Apps

Adjust the partition sizes according to your actual hard drive(s)
size and the amount of space you'd like to allocate to each OS and its
applications.

Create the partitions using Win9x's FDISK so you can enable large
disk support (FAT32). (No need for 3rd party partitioning
utilities/boot managers and their frequent complications.)

Install Win9x first, being sure to select "C:\Windows" (or
D:\Windows, if you prefer) when asked for the default Windows
directory. When you subsequently install WinXP, be sure to specify
"D:\Winnt" (or "D:\Windows," "C:\Winnt" as referred/applicable) when
asked for the default Windows directory, to place it in the other
partition. The WinXP installation routine will automatically set up a
Multi-boot menu for you. The default settings for this menu can be
readily edited from within WinXP. NOTE: If you elect to place Win98
on the "D:" drive, you'll _have_ to leave the "C:" drive as FAT32.

This method can be adapted to using 2 physical hard drives by
placing the boot partition (C:, which still must be FAT32) and either
of the operating systems on the Primary Master hard drive, and the
second operating system on the second hard drive.

It is also possible to have a 3rd partition for shared
applications, but it would be necessary for such a partition to be
formatted in the common file format (FAT32). The applications would
also have to be installed into each OS (to ensure proper system file
placement and registry updates), one at a time, but the bulk of the
program files could be located on this common partition. I do not,
however, actually recommend doing this as, if you were to uninstall
such an application from one OS, you may not be able to gracefully
uninstall it from the second OS, having already deleted crucial
installation data during the first uninstall action.

Just about everything you need to know (URLs may wrap):

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q217/2/10.ASP

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/gettingstarted/multiboot.asp


Bruce Chambers

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