NOt sure what this would be called

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Freeware program that you can install on a network (Hardwired and Wireless)
that will block anyone from being able to intercept or see anything going on
on the network computers.
 
Freeware program that you can install on a network (Hardwired and Wireless)
that will block anyone from being able to intercept or see anything going on
on the network computers.
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Wishful thinking.
 
Freeware program that you can install on a network (Hardwired and Wireless)
that will block anyone from being able to intercept or see anything going on
on the network computers.
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It's called encryption or VPN.

Encryption is the general way to protect against eavesdroping
VPN is a network connection that employs encryption.
 
Gerard Bok said:
It's called encryption or VPN.

Encryption is the general way to protect against eavesdroping
VPN is a network connection that employs encryption.
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I am a Broadband Engineer, know all about VPN's and Encryption, thats not
exactly what I am talking about. Currently I am using 128b Enc on a SHN, 4
computers, 3 wireless and one hardwired as well as some home security cams.
What I was talking about is a program that I can install on those computers
that would completely block (Even from my ISP) all visuals on traffic. VPN's
wont do this as I use a Matrix to observe the 4 Broadband Networks I am
responsible for and it will show unauthorized VPN's (Our NOC can see VPN's
as well). 128 b enc definitly will not do it as well as setting
authorizationf for specific MAC adds. I spoke with my area engineer as well
as 3 of my fellow engineers and they have not heard of any program like it.
I was hoping beyond hope that the possibility was there that someone might
have developed some freeware, by some chance. I am sure in the future
someone will figure it out.
 
I am a Broadband Engineer, know all about VPN's and Encryption, thats not
exactly what I am talking about. Currently I am using 128b Enc on a SHN, 4
computers, 3 wireless and one hardwired as well as some home security cams.
What I was talking about is a program that I can install on those computers
that would completely block (Even from my ISP) all visuals on traffic.
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What traffic are you talking about ?
Your local traffic should not pass your firewall, hence will be
invisible to your ISP.

And being a Broadband Engineer, you don't seriously suggest there
would be a way to have internet-traffic without your ISP at least
being aware of the fact that 'something' is passing, do you ?
 
Jeff wrote:
[SNIP]
I am a Broadband Engineer, know all about VPN's and Encryption, thats not
exactly what I am talking about. Currently I am using 128b Enc on a SHN, 4
computers, 3 wireless and one hardwired as well as some home security cams.
What I was talking about is a program that I can install on those computers
that would completely block (Even from my ISP) all visuals on traffic. VPN's
wont do this as I use a Matrix to observe the 4 Broadband Networks I am
responsible for and it will show unauthorized VPN's (Our NOC can see VPN's
as well). 128 b enc definitly will not do it as well as setting
authorizationf for specific MAC adds. I spoke with my area engineer as well
as 3 of my fellow engineers and they have not heard of any program like it.
I was hoping beyond hope that the possibility was there that someone might
have developed some freeware, by some chance. I am sure in the future
someone will figure it out.
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Originally I was going to type: "I know of at least two solutions that
encrypt all traffic on the LAN - Kerberos and the AFS" (Should also add
this is on real boxen, not winders)

Then I re-read the above.

Am I correct in thinking what you are trying to do is make the traffic
invisible, or at least, sense-wise un-intelligible. By that I mean
"disguise the physical layer block/packets so that they make no sense,
so that not even traffic analysis on the data transmission will carry
any information".

If that is correct, there are dozens of algorithms for that, many
involve simple flooding of the channel with valid but uninteresting
packets at all times.

But I can't say I know of any free (or $ware) implementations of them.

Of course, these techniques are used by military, diplomatic and
intelligence types, so are "well understood."

Of course, if I've misunderstood you completely, just try again :-)

Cheers,
Gary B-)
 
Gerard Bok said:
What traffic are you talking about ?
Your local traffic should not pass your firewall, hence will be
invisible to your ISP.

And being a Broadband Engineer, you don't seriously suggest there
would be a way to have internet-traffic without your ISP at least
being aware of the fact that 'something' is passing, do you ?
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No, there are too many tools available in my package for anyone to hide what
they are doing from me. I can see, user, address (Home), phone numbers,
IP's, VPN's used, activity levels, sites hit, email usage, down time, lag
time, abuse, excessive use (Especially by gamers) packet loss and a hundred
other things, regardless of what they use to mask thier systems and usage.
Even anonymiser's are really useless.
 
Gary R. Schmidt said:
Jeff wrote:
[SNIP]
I am a Broadband Engineer, know all about VPN's and Encryption, thats not
exactly what I am talking about. Currently I am using 128b Enc on a SHN, 4
computers, 3 wireless and one hardwired as well as some home security cams.
What I was talking about is a program that I can install on those computers
that would completely block (Even from my ISP) all visuals on traffic. VPN's
wont do this as I use a Matrix to observe the 4 Broadband Networks I am
responsible for and it will show unauthorized VPN's (Our NOC can see VPN's
as well). 128 b enc definitly will not do it as well as setting
authorizationf for specific MAC adds. I spoke with my area engineer as well
as 3 of my fellow engineers and they have not heard of any program like it.
I was hoping beyond hope that the possibility was there that someone might
have developed some freeware, by some chance. I am sure in the future
someone will figure it out.
Click to expand...

Originally I was going to type: "I know of at least two solutions that
encrypt all traffic on the LAN - Kerberos and the AFS" (Should also add
this is on real boxen, not winders)

Then I re-read the above.

Am I correct in thinking what you are trying to do is make the traffic
invisible, or at least, sense-wise un-intelligible. By that I mean
"disguise the physical layer block/packets so that they make no sense,
so that not even traffic analysis on the data transmission will carry
any information".

If that is correct, there are dozens of algorithms for that, many
involve simple flooding of the channel with valid but uninteresting
packets at all times.

But I can't say I know of any free (or $ware) implementations of them.

Of course, these techniques are used by military, diplomatic and
intelligence types, so are "well understood."

Of course, if I've misunderstood you completely, just try again :-)
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No you have understood, I am looking for "Invisibility".
 
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