Network issue on new desktop

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Just built a new desktop and connected it to my network. My whole mp3
collection is on my laptop. When I make my "music" folder shared on the
network, it appears to work just fine. The odd part, is that some of
the folders appear as empty when i look through them on my desktop. They
are right there though, on the laptop.

All of the files are the same mp3 format that I made myself. From the
desktop, certain band folders, say U2, are empty w/0 bytes.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!
 
JAD said:
OS's would be? when you shared, did you share the folder and all sub
folders?
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Both OS's XP Pro SP2. I have all the music in one folder that contains
lots of subfolders. I shared (full access) the parent folder. All of the
subfolders show, just not all of the mp3's within.
 
JAD said:
what if you copy one of the folders to the desktop(instead of viewing over
the network)?
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Yeah, that's how I discovered the problem. I tried copying the contents
of my "My Music" folder to the new computer. I was surprised how quick
it went. It copied about 5.6gig out of the 10+gig there was in the
original folder. It just oddly chose certain folder contents to cot copy.
 
jlab13 said:
Yeah, that's how I discovered the problem. I tried copying the contents of
my "My Music" folder to the new computer. I was surprised how quick it
went. It copied about 5.6gig out of the 10+gig there was in the original
folder. It just oddly chose certain folder contents to cot copy.
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So as a 'batch' download you lost some in the process, same thing when you
bring an 'empty' single folder...what if you drag and drop from the laptop
to the desktop(instead of using the desktop to bring the folders to itself,
use the laptop to send to desktop). Are you using the/a firewall?
 
JAD said:
So as a 'batch' download you lost some in the process, same thing when you
bring an 'empty' single folder...what if you drag and drop from the laptop
to the desktop(instead of using the desktop to bring the folders to itself,
use the laptop to send to desktop). Are you using the/a firewall?
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Yes, I can drag and drop from my laptop to the desktop. But oddly, when
I'm on the desktop, I'm noticing that there are a number of shared
subfolders that are showing up "empty". Is there something preventing
all of the subfolders of a shared main folder from being shared? Like I
said, most are shared, just some aren't.

I did deactivate the firewalls on both. No effect.
 
jlab13 said:
Yes, I can drag and drop from my laptop to the desktop. But oddly, when
I'm on the desktop, I'm noticing that there are a number of shared
subfolders that are showing up "empty". Is there something preventing all
of the subfolders of a shared main folder from being shared? Like I said,
most are shared, just some aren't.

I did deactivate the firewalls on both. No effect.
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By chance are the files marked as 'hidden' and on the laptop, hidden files
are set to be 'shown' while on the desktop hidden files are set to be
hidden?
..
 
JAD said:
By chance are the files marked as 'hidden' and on the laptop, hidden files
are set to be 'shown' while on the desktop hidden files are set to be
hidden?
.
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Good idea, but no. Nothin hidden, and I have "hide files" unchecked on
both systems.
 
JAD said:
does the 'share name' of the 'empty' folders have an '$' in them?
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The empty folders have no share name. They are all subfolders of the
main shared "my music" folder. That folder has no $.
So far I keep browsing around my network folders and finding no common
link. Some folders show as empty, some just as they should be. I found
one that had 5 diff't files in it but from the desktop youo can only see
two.

This is going to make me batty.

I just re-created my network for the heck of it, but no difference.
 
jlab13 said:
The empty folders have no share name. They are all subfolders of the main
shared "my music" folder. That folder has no $.
So far I keep browsing around my network folders and finding no common
link. Some folders show as empty, some just as they should be. I found one
that had 5 diff't files in it but from the desktop youo can only see two.

This is going to make me batty.

I just re-created my network for the heck of it, but no difference.
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Well you got me...the folder name exists, is accessible, files are visible,
music(that is not visible from the desktop) is playable on the laptop.When
you drag one of the mystery folders(which has files in it when on the
laptop) to the desktop nothing is there.
XP copyright protection...............:^D
 
JAD said:
Well you got me...the folder name exists, is accessible, files are visible,
music(that is not visible from the desktop) is playable on the laptop.When
you drag one of the mystery folders(which has files in it when on the
laptop) to the desktop nothing is there.
XP copyright protection...............:^D
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YEah. This one is going to drive me nuts. I see all over, subfolders
that show as empty as per the desktop. I don't even know where to begin.
It's only happening desktop - lookin at - laptop. Vice versa works fine.
I can see all the files within subfolders on the desktop.

Oy.
 
jlab13 said:
YEah. This one is going to drive me nuts. I see all over, subfolders that
show as empty as per the desktop. I don't even know where to begin.
It's only happening desktop - lookin at - laptop. Vice versa works fine. I
can see all the files within subfolders on the desktop.

Oy.
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Did you set 'user' availability on just some folders?
 
JAD said:
Did you set 'user' availability on just some folders?
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uh....heh?

Not sure I follow. In general, I'm the only user of either system and
install things as such.
 
jlab13 said:
uh....heh?

Not sure I follow. In general, I'm the only user of either system and
install things as such.
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XP pro has far more security features than home(I use home all the time) so
I can't follow along ISFA the unique and individual security that you can
enforce from the XP pro GUI. Suffice it to say if your systems have been set
as single user since the get go, then odds are its irrelevant. I've noticed
that when a system is definitely 'single' user the "make folder private' in
file properties is grayed out.
 
JAD said:
XP pro has far more security features than home(I use home all the time) so
I can't follow along ISFA the unique and individual security that you can
enforce from the XP pro GUI. Suffice it to say if your systems have been set
as single user since the get go, then odds are its irrelevant. I've noticed
that when a system is definitely 'single' user the "make folder private' in
file properties is grayed out.
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If I connect an ethernet cable from out of my laptop to my desktop
directly, will that work? Or do I have to have the hub?

I'm just trying to eliminate things to help narrow this down.
 
jlab13 said:
If I connect an ethernet cable from out of my laptop to my desktop
directly, will that work? Or do I have to have the hub?

I'm just trying to eliminate things to help narrow this down.
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without the hub(router?) you would need a 'crossover' rj45 and assign IP
addy manually
 
JAD said:
without the hub(router?) you would need a 'crossover' rj45 and assign IP
addy manually
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Well thanks for your help either way.
Don't know what is causing this but it's gonna drive me nuts;)
 
<SNIP>
Could simple file sharing be disabled on the laptop? If so, you get separate
security and sharing tabs and have to give permission and security settings
for each user or PC. If you are not using simple file sharing, then you just
need to give permission and set security level for the user or group.

From MS KB:
By default, simple file sharing is enabled on a Microsoft Windows XP-based
computer if the computer is not a member of a domain. With simple file
sharing, you can share folders with everyone on your workgroup or network
and make folders in your user profile private. However, if simple file
sharing is enabled, you cannot prevent specific users and groups from
accessing your shared folders. If you turn off simple file sharing, you can
permit specific users and groups to access a shared folder. Those users must
be logged on with the credentials of user profiles that you have granted
access to your shared folder.

If simple file sharing is enabled, you see the simple file sharing user
interface appears instead of the Security and Sharing tabs. By default, this
new user interface is implemented in Windows XP Home Edition and in
Microsoft Windows XP Professional if you are working in a workgroup. If you
turn off simple file sharing, the classic Security and Sharing tabs appear,
and you can specify which users and groups have access to shared folders on
your computer.
 
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