need xxclone help

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Trying to use xxclone on a machine that uses a USB portable
destination dvd drive. Apparently xxclone will only recognize drives
that are fed off of the drive controller. Any suggestions on how to
get the application to see the portable destination drive?

any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
the said:
Trying to use xxclone on a machine that uses a USB portable
destination dvd drive. Apparently xxclone will only recognize drives
that are fed off of the drive controller. Any suggestions on how to
get the application to see the portable destination drive?

any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Suggest you sign up for the xxclone forum.

Lots of help there....It's free as well.

http://groups.google.com/group/Xxclone
 
burris said:
Suggest you sign up for the xxclone forum.

Lots of help there....It's free as well.

http://groups.google.com/group/Xxclone
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IMO, anybody who commits themselves to a legal contract with Google just
to discuss something is a fool.

These "legal agreements" are getting out of control.
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John said:
IMO, anybody who commits themselves to a legal contract with Google
just to discuss something is a fool.

These "legal agreements" are getting out of control.
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John....

Where in the world do you think that the people who help other people in
these newsgroups get their information?

If you accept and down the line disseminate the information that was
gathered by others from Google,
aren't you aiding and abetting the very process you are so adamant about
not participating in? :-)

burris
 
Hi, John.

Let me throw in my 2 cents here.
I skimmed over the Google Groups "contract" and privacy policy. It looks
quite benign to me. In fact, after reading this, I signed up myself and
joined a British audio group.

Here are the issues that I identify:
1. The service uses cookies.
2. There's a customized search option. This builds a profile based on
your search history -- this can identify you for targeted advertising.
3. They reserve the right to change terms at any time -- it's up to you
to check periodically to ensure that they're behaving themselves. Based
on the company's philosophy and practices, I'd say that they're
unusually trustworthy in this regard. Of course, now that they're a
public company, things could get nasty in the future due to, let's say,
a hostile takeover. But not in the near term.

The solution to #1 is to just use a good cookie controller, or erase
them frequently.
The solution to #2 is to simply turn it off when signing up (there's a
checkbox for it). I suspect that this is the targeted ads routine.

Note:
It sure looks like this isn't an abusive outfit like Yahoo (more below).
No personal information whatsoever was requested for signup. The only
requested info was essential to the service: a user name, a password,
and an email address. For this last, the system accepted a throwaway
webmail address that I use when unsure --> Yahoo has refused to process
my signups this way -- apparently insisting on a genuine ISP address to
use for spamming. Emailing a signup verification routine has become the
standard method of ensuring a safe process for service providers. It
appears to me that Yahoo insists that I turn off my safety measures in
as the cost of entry. But in Google Groups, all my safeties are on and I
didn't have to disable my very stiff Proxomitron either.

I really dislike Yahoo's business model; especially their tacking their
spam onto user's emails (even _paid_ subscribers -- customers of
bundling cable providers and SBC internet). It seems that they just love
to use techniques that diss users. One way to sign up for Yahoo without
giving them your authentic email address is to start up the account from
a public computer at a public library. That's how I did it. I can't
explain why it went through nicely that way, but it was suggested to me,
and it did indeed work. Frankly, I wish that nobody would ever start a
group on Yahoo (Geocities) due to their outrageous "gotcha" advert methods.

Yeah; it looks like these guys are attempting to subvert usenet with
their alternative services. In fact, Google muddies the waters by making
it unclear, I think, whether the user is on real usenet or Google's own
alternative -- something that they can do by virtue of their having
bought Deja News. But, as I said earlier, overall, it looks nice and benign.

OK?

Richard
 
the said:
Trying to use xxclone on a machine that uses a USB portable
destination dvd drive. Apparently xxclone will only recognize drives
that are fed off of the drive controller. Any suggestions on how to
get the application to see the portable destination drive?

any suggestions would be appreciated.
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At http://xxclone.com/iwhatis.htm, it says the following:

"Supports external USB/IDE drives (good for a laptop)."

Perhaps you need to look at the device manager to make sure that your
system is recognizing that drive.

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I don't reply to trolls and other such idiots. No adware, cdware,
commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware, PROmotionware,
shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses or warez
please.
 
burris said:
John....

Where in the world do you think that the people who help other people in
these newsgroups get their information?
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In the case of XXClone, a lot of their info comes from reading this page:

http://xxclone.com/itechnot.htm

and this page:

http://xxclone.com/itheory.htm
If you accept and down the line disseminate the information that was
gathered by others from Google,
aren't you aiding and abetting the very process you are so adamant about
not participating in? :-)
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Not knowingly. Regardless, if others want to become Googlesheep that's
their business. Seems to me that it's not that hard to create an alt
group and I don't know why that hasn't been done for the program.

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Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls and other such idiots. No adware, cdware,
commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware, PROmotionware,
shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses or warez
please.
 
Richard said:
Hi, John.

Let me throw in my 2 cents here.
I skimmed over the Google Groups "contract" and privacy policy. It looks
quite benign to me. In fact, after reading this, I signed up myself and
joined a British audio group.

Here are the issues that I identify:
1. The service uses cookies.
2. There's a customized search option. This builds a profile based on
your search history -- this can identify you for targeted advertising.
3. They reserve the right to change terms at any time -- it's up to you
to check periodically to ensure that they're behaving themselves. Based
on the company's philosophy and practices, I'd say that they're
unusually trustworthy in this regard. Of course, now that they're a
public company, things could get nasty in the future due to, let's say,
a hostile takeover. But not in the near term.

The solution to #1 is to just use a good cookie controller, or erase
them frequently.
The solution to #2 is to simply turn it off when signing up (there's a
checkbox for it). I suspect that this is the targeted ads routine.

Note:
It sure looks like this isn't an abusive outfit like Yahoo (more below).
No personal information whatsoever was requested for signup. The only
requested info was essential to the service: a user name, a password,
and an email address. For this last, the system accepted a throwaway
webmail address that I use when unsure --> Yahoo has refused to process
my signups this way -- apparently insisting on a genuine ISP address to
use for spamming. Emailing a signup verification routine has become the
standard method of ensuring a safe process for service providers. It
appears to me that Yahoo insists that I turn off my safety measures in
as the cost of entry. But in Google Groups, all my safeties are on and I
didn't have to disable my very stiff Proxomitron either.

I really dislike Yahoo's business model; especially their tacking their
spam onto user's emails (even _paid_ subscribers -- customers of
bundling cable providers and SBC internet). It seems that they just love
to use techniques that diss users. One way to sign up for Yahoo without
giving them your authentic email address is to start up the account from
a public computer at a public library. That's how I did it. I can't
explain why it went through nicely that way, but it was suggested to me,
and it did indeed work. Frankly, I wish that nobody would ever start a
group on Yahoo (Geocities) due to their outrageous "gotcha" advert methods.

Yeah; it looks like these guys are attempting to subvert usenet with
their alternative services. In fact, Google muddies the waters by making
it unclear, I think, whether the user is on real usenet or Google's own
alternative -- something that they can do by virtue of their having
bought Deja News. But, as I said earlier, overall, it looks nice and
benign.

OK?
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Sorry Richard. MMV. Besides, the list of sites to which I must log in
grows and grows and grows. I'm sick and tired of that idiocy. As I said
in another post, given the ease of creating a really for real newsgroup,
I don't know why I should have consent to a legal agreement just so that
I can discuss something. It portends big business even more controlling
what we say.

--
Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls and other such idiots. No adware, cdware,
commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware, PROmotionware,
shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses or warez
please.
 
John said:
Sorry Richard. MMV. Besides, the list of sites to which I must log in
grows and grows and grows. I'm sick and tired of that idiocy. As I said
in another post, given the ease of creating a really for real newsgroup,
I don't know why I should have consent to a legal agreement just so that
I can discuss something. It portends big business even more controlling
what we say.
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In many cases, I'd agree with you, but not here -- except that I agree
that there's no need for this -- I never got what's so special about
Geocities/Yahoo (the outfit that started this mess), except for one
thing: many cheap internet providers don't provide usenet; since they
have to pay the news services, it's one way for them to cut their costs
to lower their rates. With these companies, the only way for a customer
to access usenet is with a Web service like these Googles or Yahoos.

NetZero and related companies are one example of cheapo usenet-free
ISPs. Their customers typically have no idea that usenet even exists.

In the case of what the OP recommended, I actually checked three
legitimate news feeds and could not find the group. My full-fare ISP
provides three different feeds (Supernews, Newscene, and their own);
they're beefing up their own and will drop Newscene this month.
Different services choose to carry or omit certain groups -- for
example, if I were them, I wouldn't carry a group named
"alt.barney.die.die.die." because there's no traffic: zilch. Many of the
newsgroups only contain spam. And there are at least 40,000 newsgroups
already.

So, it appears that the OP's recommended newsgroup is probably
Google-specific. However, to my chagrin, I found that after I'd signed
up and "joined" an audio group in the UK, when I went into my usual
newsfeed, there was my post within an ordinary usenet group that I'd
overlooked.

Dunno. It's a problem. Setting up your own newsgroup on one of these
proprietary services is easier than starting a legitimate newsgroup.
When I once tried, I got zero help or advice from my own ISP. In Google,
it's done in a flash.

But, yes: the proprietary nature of these services does attempt to
privatize the commons -- and that's bad for most of us. I wish that
people didn't get suckered into starting up very interesting topics on them.

Richard
 
On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 02:25:50 -0800, John Corliss

given the ease of creating a really for real newsgroup,
I don't know why I should have consent to a legal agreement just so that
I can discuss something. It portends big business even more controlling
what we say.
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Hi John,

I have created newsgroups. I didn't find them easy to create at all.
Unless one bypasses CFVs etc. If one does that however the new
newsgroup will not be properly propagated. Creating a newsgroup and
having it propagated are very different things.

If however you were suggesting that Kan create a newsgroup on his own
server then you should contact him and suggest it.

Regards, John.
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On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 09:51:01 -0800, Richard Steinfeld

So, it appears that the OP's recommended newsgroup is probably
Google-specific.
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Google don't create newsgroups. They create mailing lists.
However, to my chagrin, I found that after I'd signed
up and "joined" an audio group in the UK, when I went into my usual
newsfeed, there was my post within an ordinary usenet group that I'd
overlooked.
Click to expand...

Google archives existing newsgroups. One can however post via Google.
Dunno. It's a problem. Setting up your own newsgroup on one of these
proprietary services is easier than starting a legitimate newsgroup.
When I once tried, I got zero help or advice from my own ISP.
Click to expand...

Why should they help ? There are numerous "how to create a newsgroup"
pages on the internet. As well as info in existing newsgroups.
In Google, it's done in a flash.
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No, in Google mailing lists are done in a flash.

< snip >

Regards, John.
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Query: Isn't entering a legal agreement "just to discuss something" what
has occurred for decades with the telephone? Isn't that precisely what
we do with our ISP to view this newsgroup? Rhetorical question.
Just wondering.

BTW a legal contract does not necessarily require a writing, though that
is recommended due to forgetfulness on the part of all concerned.

Helen
 
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