Need some geeky help

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Chakolate

I have an original-equipment hard drive (drive 0) that's failing. I have
installed a second hard drive (drive 1) and what I want to do is do a
clean install of Win2KPro on drive 1, then copy all my files.

However, when I try to install using the CD, it just tries to reinstall
my drive 0 copy. I've looked at the Knowledge Base, but I can't find
what I need. Do I need some sort of dual boot software, and if so, is
there any that's freeware?

I did install the drive myself, so I'm not totally helpless, but I'm not
so geeky I don't appreciate clear instructions, so if you know of a
website for neonewbies, or can give careful instructions, I'd really
appreciate it.

TIA,

Chak
 
On 18 Apr 2006, Chakolate wrote
I have an original-equipment hard drive (drive 0) that's
failing. I have installed a second hard drive (drive 1) and
what I want to do is do a clean install of Win2KPro on drive
1, then copy all my files.

However, when I try to install using the CD, it just tries to
reinstall my drive 0 copy. I've looked at the Knowledge Base,
but I can't find what I need. Do I need some sort of dual
boot software, and if so, is there any that's freeware?
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Have you set Drive 1 as the master, and Drive 0 as the slave?

Maybe you could physically remove Drive 0 while you install Windows
to Drive 1, then re-install Drive 0 as the slave to get the files
off it?
 
Have you set Drive 1 as the master, and Drive 0 as the slave?
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Not yet - do I need to do that first?
Maybe you could physically remove Drive 0 while you install Windows
to Drive 1, then re-install Drive 0 as the slave to get the files
off it?
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Oh, that's a thought. Thanks.

Chak
 
Chakolate skrev:
Not yet - do I need to do that first?
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Since 0 is failing, I'd guess that what you want is a fresh OS with all
your files on drive 1, toss 0 into the bin and just leave 1 as a lone
master. The above suggestion is IMO the cleanest way to accomplish this.
Oh, that's a thought. Thanks.
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Should not be necessary if you set drives 1 and 0 to master and slave
respectively. Then again, if you are going to do that either way there
is no harm in having 0 disconnected until the OS on 1 is up and running.
If nothing else you eliminate the risk of deleting drive 0 by mistake,
and if it's failing it is probably good advice to not wear it down more
than strictly necessary.
 
On 18 Apr 2006, Chakolate wrote
Not yet - do I need to do that first?


Oh, that's a thought. Thanks.
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Like Morten says, it might be the best route to try, as it
minimises wear and tear on your wearing-out 0 drive.

Let us know how it goes.
 
OS needs to be installed on the active partition of the primary master. Make
sure that the new drive is master connected to ide0 controller
 
Since 0 is failing, I'd guess that what you want is a fresh OS with
all your files on drive 1, toss 0 into the bin and just leave 1 as a
lone master. The above suggestion is IMO the cleanest way to
accomplish this.
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Okay, I'll give it a shot. Thanks to all those who replied.

Chak
 
I have an original-equipment hard drive (drive 0) that's failing. I have
installed a second hard drive (drive 1) and what I want to do is do a
clean install of Win2KPro on drive 1, then copy all my files.

However, when I try to install using the CD, it just tries to reinstall
my drive 0 copy. I've looked at the Knowledge Base, but I can't find
what I need. Do I need some sort of dual boot software, and if so, is
there any that's freeware?

I did install the drive myself, so I'm not totally helpless, but I'm not
so geeky I don't appreciate clear instructions, so if you know of a
website for neonewbies, or can give careful instructions, I'd really
appreciate it.
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It's simple. Make sure HDD1 is on a second (secondary) drive cable
and jumpered as a master. Set the BIOS boot sequence to first try to
boot from HDD1 and second from CD. If HDD1 is unbootable, as I assume
it is, the system will boot from CD, and HDD1 will be drive C:

Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
Okay, I'll give it a shot. Thanks to all those who replied.
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Just remember to put the drive, if you're only plugging one drive in,
at the end of the cable. It doesn't work too well to have a couple of
inches of unterminated cable hanging off the drive.
 
make yourself a bootdisk that can read and write NTFS
http://www.bootdisk.com/
have you created and formatted a partition on your new drive ?
if not the bootdisk you make should have the tools to do so.

once the drive is made ready for use you can boot of this disk and
copy your files across to the new drive. (Do you need to save any files
etc ? if not.. just dump the disk)

2k can boot of any partition whether on the primary or master, even
when the drive is on the secondary channel, possible you have an OEM
disk with routines that just barge ahead and install to a default
location, if not, just spend a little time on each screen as your
installing, you should get the option of creating partitions and also
which partition to install to (although you can create partitions with
NT, 2k and XP you can't format all those partitions till after the OS
is installed, if you can master the use of boot disks you can do all
this before you start your instalation)
 
Al said:
Just remember to put the drive, if you're only plugging one drive in,
at the end of the cable. It doesn't work too well to have a couple of
inches of unterminated cable hanging off the drive.
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Al....
IDE drives are NOT cable position sensitive, unlike RLL & MFM
Drive cables only have to be terminated if they are SCSI.

BTW, I'm a retired computer sciences (hardware) instructor.

Regards
Lee in Toronto
 
Al....
IDE drives are NOT cable position sensitive, unlike RLL & MFM
Drive cables only have to be terminated if they are SCSI.

BTW, I'm a retired computer sciences (hardware) instructor.
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Sorry to nitpick, but IDE drives ARE cable position
sensitive IF they've been jumpered for cable-select.

Floppies, MFM and RLL weren't either, if one used the
correct combination of jumper positions and twist/
non-twist cables. Yeah, I wanted the drives to appear
as *I* wanted them to, not the way the save-a-tenth-of-
a-cent (or "don't confuse the morons") default wiring
set them up to appear.

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Marten said:
Sorry to nitpick, but IDE drives ARE cable position
sensitive IF they've been jumpered for cable-select.

Floppies, MFM and RLL weren't either, if one used the
correct combination of jumper positions and twist/
non-twist cables. Yeah, I wanted the drives to appear
as *I* wanted them to, not the way the save-a-tenth-of-
a-cent (or "don't confuse the morons") default wiring
set them up to appear.
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Well, you are nit-picking! while what you say about cable select is
true, 99% of all comsumer model computers do NOT use cable select!

I try to present information that is useful to the posting and reflects
the Norm. IOW, don't confuse the issue with irrelevant facts.
Regards
Lee

Regards
Lee in Toronto
 
Well, you are nit-picking! while what you say about cable select is
true, 99% of all comsumer model computers do NOT use cable select!

I try to present information that is useful to the posting and reflects
the Norm. IOW, don't confuse the issue with irrelevant facts.
Regards
Lee
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Okay. Add "Unless they are jumpered as 'cable select',"
to the front of the sentence and I'll keep quiet. I *have*
seen systems that were set up for cable select.

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Al....
IDE drives are NOT cable position sensitive, unlike RLL & MFM
Drive cables only have to be terminated if they are SCSI.
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Sorry, it has nothing to do with drive technology.
BTW, I'm a retired computer sciences (hardware) instructor.
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Bet you never took a graduate level course in transmission line
theory, though. 100 MHz lines like to be properly terminated,
regardless of the type of load. Oh, I'm a still-not-retired computer
hardware design engineer.
 
Bet you never took a graduate level course in transmission line
theory, though. 100 MHz lines like to be properly terminated,
regardless of the type of load. Oh, I'm a still-not-retired computer
hardware design engineer.
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Well, I want to thank everyone who responded. I now have Windoze on both
drives, and I'm busy copying everything I need.

Usenet rules!

Chak
 
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