Need software to measure audio volume

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Hello,

I am working with my child on a science project that is measuring volume of
different strings on stringed instruments. Does anyone know of a simple
software (or not so simple) that measures decibels/amplitude using a
microphone?

thank you,

jm
 
Audacity (wave editing software)
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Choose the "Meter Toolbar" under the View menu for a simple dB meter
that shows levels on line in. Or he could have fun recording clips and
looking at the waveform. (Indeed, you can take this experiment to the
next level by talking about the whole sound "envelope" - attack,
sustain, decay...)

There are prob more plug-ins that can do analysis.

-Dave Smey
Brooklyn, NY
music freeware links at http://www.davesmey.com/programs/morelinks.htm
 
Audacity (wave editing software)
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Choose the "Meter Toolbar" under the View menu for a simple dB meter
that shows levels on line in. Or he could have fun recording clips and
looking at the waveform. (Indeed, you can take this experiment to the
next level by talking about the whole sound "envelope" - attack,
sustain, decay...)

There are prob more plug-ins that can do analysis.
Great idea!

I had a quick fiddle with my Audacity.
For the benefit of the OP.....Once you press record you're presented
with a pair of waveform displays ( press pause )...if you 'grab' (
click 'n hold ) the bottom of one of the waveform displays, you can
drag it down and increase the size of the waveform display. If you
then click in the numbered panel to the left ( which is numbered
0..0.5...1 ) you can increase the numerical steps.
So, you can end up with a waveform display that cover half the depth
of your screen, along with a useful measure on the left as to the
volume of the wave. Do the same with the other display if required.

Select Microphone as your input source, hit record and record each
string in turn. Hit Stop and then scroll back to measure off the
readings.

Regards,
 
Great ideas! Thank you.

I actually have Audacity, but I did not think to use it in this way.

Thanks again,

JM
 
JM said:
Hello,

I am working with my child on a science project that is measuring volume of
different strings on stringed instruments. Does anyone know of a simple
software (or not so simple) that measures decibels/amplitude using a
microphone?

thank you,

jm

I'll add to the replies from the other posters. I don't see why a
program that provides a measurement in decibels, such as Audacity,
wouldn't work.

I have a background in both music psychology and audio (as well as
music). I use real-world phenomena a lot in my music teaching work. I'll
comment from that perspective.

Sound output from an instrument is measured in different ways. For
example, there's a difference in the output measured right at the violin
itself, vs. from the position of the player's ears, vs., from a distance
of 10 feet away, vs. from the position of a listener in the fourth row
in a given concert hall. And how strongly the violinist is bowing the
instrument will, in fact, affect the results: the instrument produces a
range of intensities.

You need to know the actual real-world decibels that the microphone is
picking up, so you need to calibrate the microphone. Once you know that,
you can extrapolate the level using the seat-of-the-pants method. For
example, you can use a sound level meter held at the same distance from
the violin as your microphone that'll be connected to the computer. That
will give you a "zero reference." The decibel scale is logarhythmic --
it's fixed in the real world of acoustical sound, but there's no
"absolute zero" when it comes to sound processing -- a meter on a
professional tape recorder, for example, measures relative to other
things. You may be able to borrow a sound level meter from an amateur
music recording person or a someone in professional recording. They're
not hard to find: even Radio Shack sells them.

This may be way beyond what you anticipated getting into, but it'll give
you good ballpark results. Because both the tonal and dynamic ranges of
a violin are not extreme, and because the quality of cheap microphones
has improved a lot over the years, you can actually get surprisingly
decent results for your experiment with a modern inexpensive microphone.

I believe that what you'll find out is that relative to sound levels
that can damage human hearing, a violin up close can be surprisingly
loud, but nothing to be alarmed about.

I think that it's a great experiment! I wish that music was taught from
perspectives like this -- I often think that I'm teaching in a vacuum,
but I get enthusiastic comments from students -- so it seems that I'm on
the right track. I realize that you didn't ask for all this advice, but
you really caught my attention with your question, so I jumped in.

Please let us know how you made out.

Richard Steinfeld
 
Hey Richard, where do you teach? You got any syllabi online?

(I'm a hapless grad student doing research in music psych.)
 
dsmey said:
Hey Richard, where do you teach? You got any syllabi online?

(I'm a hapless grad student doing research in music psych.)

Sorry to reply so late; I just saw this.

I teach two specialties privately in the San Francisco Bay area:
recorder to baby boomers, and practicing efficiency techniques (to
students with basic music skills through professional level).

At this time, I prefer to work independently, so I'm not affiliated with
any institution: therefore, no syllabus.

I did graduate work in music psychology at the University of Connecticut
during a period when research funding was available for original
research. The funding enabled joint work by both the Music Department
and the Psychology Department. At the time, I was the audio specialist
for the Music Dep't, so I was a natural to provide technical assistance
for some of the experiments, and to evaluate research at other
institutions. It's refreshing to blow away some of the old wrong beliefs
about, for example, musical talent, and get a better handle on what's
really significant. Music psychology is exciting, isn't it?

Despite having many years of formal music study beginning at the age of
6, I'd have to say that some of what I discovered about music psychology
has become the bedrock of my own teaching work.

Hope this helps. Where are you studying?

Richard
 
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