Must change Workgroup Name when accessing multiple workgroups

[Guest]

Am am using XP Pro on my laptop, and for years, have taken for granted the
simplicity of having Windows detect other Workgroups on a network.
Unfortunately my hard drive recently crashed, and the manufacturer sent my
replacement without the operating system and drivers installed. After
installing OS and drivers again, I am unable to connect to other workgroups
without changing the name of the Workgroup on my laptop.

There is another very strange error that is most likely part of the same
problem. When I try to "View Workgroup Computers", I receive the message:
"Workgroup is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource....."

I have been through the Windows Knowledge Database, and this discussion
group, and have tried suggestions that looked closely related to my problem,
but I have found none on-point.

Any help that can be given will be greatly appreciated.

 

[Robert L [MS-MVP]]

have you enabled file sharing> these pages may help,

computer browser
The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available". ...
workgroup name under Entire Network Places, you get "Workgroup is not accessible. ...
www.howtonetworking.com/Windows/computerbrowser.htm

computer doesn't show itself in workgroup
Problem: when clicking workgroup under My Network Places>Microsoft Windows Network,
it displays "Workgroup is not accessible. You might not have per mission ....
www.howtonetworking.com/winissues/notaccessible1.htm


Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
Am am using XP Pro on my laptop, and for years, have taken for granted the
simplicity of having Windows detect other Workgroups on a network.
Unfortunately my hard drive recently crashed, and the manufacturer sent my
replacement without the operating system and drivers installed. After
installing OS and drivers again, I am unable to connect to other workgroups
without changing the name of the Workgroup on my laptop.

There is another very strange error that is most likely part of the same
problem. When I try to "View Workgroup Computers", I receive the message:
"Workgroup is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource....."

I have been through the Windows Knowledge Database, and this discussion
group, and have tried suggestions that looked closely related to my problem,
but I have found none on-point.

Any help that can be given will be greatly appreciated.

 

[Chuck]

Am am using XP Pro on my laptop, and for years, have taken for granted the
simplicity of having Windows detect other Workgroups on a network.
Unfortunately my hard drive recently crashed, and the manufacturer sent my
replacement without the operating system and drivers installed. After
installing OS and drivers again, I am unable to connect to other workgroups
without changing the name of the Workgroup on my laptop.

There is another very strange error that is most likely part of the same
problem. When I try to "View Workgroup Computers", I receive the message:
"Workgroup is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource....."

I have been through the Windows Knowledge Database, and this discussion
group, and have tried suggestions that looked closely related to my problem,
but I have found none on-point.

Any help that can be given will be greatly appreciated.

If your laptop is in a different workgroup than other computers on the LAN, then
it needs to be running as a browser. No browser for the workgroup = no ability
to see the workgroup that it's in, and no ability to see other workgroups.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#Components>

Provide "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from the laptop, and from one or
two other computers on the LAN, as a start. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>

 

[Guest]

Robert & Chuck:

You have both been extremely helpful. I, quite frankly, never heard of a
computer browser - it just always worked, so nothing to question. Here is
where I am - now where do I go:

When I try to start the Computer Browser, I get the message: "The Computer
Borwser on Local Computer started and then stopped. Some services stop
automatically if they have no work to do....."

Found I had to download browstat for the new drive on the laptop, which did
turn up browstat errors. Chuck: I have read through your documentation, and
found it incredibly helpful. Maybe I am finally brain-dead, or some of the
information is over my head. It appears that I have both a master & backup
browser running. I am assuming this is because the old laptop disappeared and
a new one without browser took it's place. This caused some errors that look
conflicting, so I am stumped at this point. I am currently at my Home network
that only has two computers, and have copied the details from the Browstat &
IPConfig below. Would you mind terribly taking a look to see if anything
jumps out at you?

Any and all help greatly appreciated
Pati Lord

Here are details:

Laptop IPConfig:
Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : laptop

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gateway.2wire.net



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit
Ethernet

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-08-02-E5-B9-F4



Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gateway.2wire.net

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : HP WLAN 802.11a/b/g W500

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-20-95-AD-C8

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.34

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.1

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, September 02, 2005
3:51:18 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, September 02, 2005
4:51:18 PM



Laptop Browstat:


Status for domain LORD on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{2885505F-958D-4FCC-BC8B-5C972B152CCB}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HOME
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
\\\\HOME . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master HOME
\\HOME
There are 2 servers in domain LORD on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{2885505F-958D-4FCC-BC8B-5C972B152CCB}
There are 1 domains in domain LORD on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{2885505F-958D-4FCC-BC8B-5C972B152CCB}


Desktop IPConfig:

Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : home

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gateway.2wire.net



Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gateway.2wire.net

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast
Ethernet NIC

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-FC-0B-11-05

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.35

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.1

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Friday, September 02, 2005
4:01:41 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, September 02, 2005
5:01:41 PM


Desktop Browstat:



Status for domain LORD on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
Browsing is active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Using \\HOME
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master HOME
\\HOME
There are 1 servers in domain LORD on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
There are 1 domains in domain LORD on transport \Device\NwlnkNb


Status for domain LORD on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{92222B34-3838-430D-ADAE-26AFCDA7151B}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: HOME
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master HOME
\\HOME
There are 2 servers in domain LORD on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{92222B34-3838-430D-ADAE-26AFCDA7151B}
There are 1 domains in domain LORD on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{92222B34-3838-430D-ADAE-26AFCDA7151B}


Status for domain LORD on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.

 

[Chuck]

Robert & Chuck:

You have both been extremely helpful. I, quite frankly, never heard of a
computer browser - it just always worked, so nothing to question. Here is
where I am - now where do I go:

When I try to start the Computer Browser, I get the message: "The Computer
Borwser on Local Computer started and then stopped. Some services stop
automatically if they have no work to do....."

Found I had to download browstat for the new drive on the laptop, which did
turn up browstat errors. Chuck: I have read through your documentation, and
found it incredibly helpful. Maybe I am finally brain-dead, or some of the
information is over my head. It appears that I have both a master & backup
browser running. I am assuming this is because the old laptop disappeared and
a new one without browser took it's place. This caused some errors that look
conflicting, so I am stumped at this point. I am currently at my Home network
that only has two computers, and have copied the details from the Browstat &
IPConfig below. Would you mind terribly taking a look to see if anything
jumps out at you?

<SNIP>

Pati,

Well, to start, Home is running both IPX/SPX and NBT. A properly setup LAN
needs only NBT. Please remove IPX/SPX and restart both computers.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html>

Having a master and a backup browser is normal. Having both functions performed
by the same computer is normal too.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>

As long as you can run both Home and Laptop as part of the Lord domain
(workgroup), you can and should disable the browser on Laptop, to prevent future
problems.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html#Prevent>

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Am am using XP Pro on my laptop, and for years, have taken for granted the
simplicity of having Windows detect other Workgroups on a network.
Unfortunately my hard drive recently crashed, and the manufacturer sent my
replacement without the operating system and drivers installed. After
installing OS and drivers again, I am unable to connect to other workgroups
without changing the name of the Workgroup on my laptop.

There is another very strange error that is most likely part of the same
problem. When I try to "View Workgroup Computers", I receive the message:
"Workgroup is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this
network resource....."

I have been through the Windows Knowledge Database, and this discussion
group, and have tried suggestions that looked closely related to my problem,
but I have found none on-point.

Any help that can be given will be greatly appreciated.

It's OK to change the workgroup name, but it isn't necessary. A
computer in any workgroup can access a computer in any workgroup.

To access another computer, no matter which workgroup either computer
is in, type the other computer's name in the Start | Run box in this
format:

\\computer
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