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SEATTLE (Reuters) - MS said it plans to delay the consumer launch of its
Windows Vista until January 2007.

And that, gents, reminds me of the ol' song by singer Lefty Frizell -
"Always Late..."
 
SEATTLE (Reuters) - MS said it plans to delay the consumer launch of its
Windows Vista until January 2007.

And that, gents, reminds me of the ol' song by singer Lefty Frizell -
"Always Late..."

With Microsoft it appears that "always a bridesmaid but never a bride" holds
true. While GNU/Linux streams along with new versions every 6 months with
more and more powerful options and innovations, Windoze clunks along with
years and years before its next big marketing push. Today it is safe to
conclude that anyone still running Windoze is running the old technology of
computers. A technology that is still using old, insecure and unstable
models. To think that people actually pay for this is the amazing thing.
 
Mark said:
SEATTLE (Reuters) - MS said it plans to delay the consumer launch of
its Windows Vista until January 2007.

And that, gents, reminds me of the ol' song by singer Lefty Frizell -
"Always Late..."

http://today.reuters.com/business/n..._RTRIDST_0_BUSINESSPRO-MICROSOFT-VISTA-DC.XML

For anyone that wants to read the whole story.


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Today NoStop commented courteously on the subject at hand
With Microsoft it appears that "always a bridesmaid but
never a bride" holds true. While GNU/Linux streams along
with new versions every 6 months with more and more
powerful options and innovations, Windoze clunks along with
years and years before its next big marketing push.

I have yet to see /anything/ developed by M$ to be state-of-
the-art for innovation. Why do they need to?

Today
it is safe to conclude that anyone still running Windoze is
running the old technology of computers. A technology that
is still using old, insecure and unstable models. To think
that people actually pay for this is the amazing thing.

And, Windoze gets bigger, slower, and buggier at every
release. I think M$ uses a variant of "computers will double
in power at half the price every two years" binary rule to
/assume/ that new users will buy more CPU and more memory just
in time for the latest and greatest bloatware.

I've seen performance for CPU, memory, and disk access go like
this: DOS lightning fast, Win 3.1 not bad, Win 95/98 slower
but still OK, XP slower yet, SP2 like molassis.

Of course, Win 3.1 was written in ordinary C and assembler.
Don't know what XP is written in but Visual C++ wouldn't
suprise me. It used to be that it was possible to optimize
code. Now, the millions of lines of code and huge development
teams preclude any optimization beyond what the compiler does.

Let's see, in 2 years, I'll be able to run a 7-10 GHz CPU,
have 32 gig memory, and a 100,000 rpm HD, so Longhorn ought to
run about the same as my AMD 3700 and 4 gig do today. Sounds
like a plan to me!

Sorry, but for me, Linux is still not ready for prime time on
the desktop. I use my PC to do useful work, not to play with
it, so I don't have the time, energy, or inclination to spend
an entire night rebuilding my system as my nephew does a
couple times a month trying to fix something that went bump in
the night. And, while there's plenty of open source software
to take the place of commercial Windoze apps and utilities,
the major development houses are still eschewing porting their
code to Linux - a varient of the old advertising saying
"nobody gets it until everybody wants it" - meaning, "I won't
port my code until everybody has Linux but mainstream users
won't "buy" Linux until their existing hardware and software
runs".

Oh, well, we each have to float our boats to what suits us.
Have a good one!
 
Today kurttrail commented courteously on the subject at hand
http://today.reuters.com/business/newsarticle.aspx?type=ousi
v&storyID=2006-03-22T020808Z_01_N21350258_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESS
PRO-MICROSOFT-VISTA-DC.XML

For anyone that wants to read the whole story.
I hate Bill the Gates with a passion, but a few years ago, I
bought a block of M$ stock think if that's how he gets wealthy,
I'll do the same. 'Cept, M$ tanked right after than as part of
the dot.com blowout. And, it hasn't recovered yet. My only
consolation is that Bill is only worth about half or less what
he was, same as me. I guess that's fair, how many billions can
you really spend?

As to Vista, being that this is supposed to generate revenue and
market share, translating into bigger profits, a delay can only
mean the wonks in the basements of Redmond can't get it to work.
Too bad.
 
All said:
Today kurttrail commented courteously on the subject at hand

I hate Bill the Gates with a passion, but a few years ago, I
bought a block of M$ stock think if that's how he gets wealthy,
I'll do the same. 'Cept, M$ tanked right after than as part of
the dot.com blowout. And, it hasn't recovered yet. My only
consolation is that Bill is only worth about half or less what
he was, same as me. I guess that's fair, how many billions can
you really spend?

As to Vista, being that this is supposed to generate revenue and
market share, translating into bigger profits, a delay can only
mean the wonks in the basements of Redmond can't get it to work.
Too bad.

ROFL! Didn't your dividend checks placate you enough to be more pro-MS?

Seriously, MS under the present regime, isn't consumer-friendly, or
working in the LONG-TERM interests of its shareholders.


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Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
NoStop said:
With Microsoft it appears that "always a bridesmaid but never a bride" holds
true. While GNU/Linux streams along with new versions every 6 months with
more and more powerful options and innovations, Windoze clunks along with
years and years before its next big marketing push.

Come again?

It is only since the release of Windows XP that Microsoft has gotten
away from the "new version every year" mode, as per:
1995 = Windows 95
1996 = Windows 95B
1997 = Windows 95C
1998 = Windows 98
1999 = Windows 98 Second Edition
2000 = Windows 2000 & Windows Millennium
2001 = Windows XP.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 
Today kurttrail commented courteously on the subject at hand
Seriously, MS under the present regime, isn't
consumer-friendly, or working in the LONG-TERM interests of
its shareholders.

Yes, that is correct. Which is why the market is treating M$
so badly. But, wouldn't you think that 100 billionaire Bill
the Gates, whether he gives a shit for his stockholders or
not, would try to fix the company for altruistic reasons -
like getting back to a 150-250 billionaire?

Most companies, particularly American companies, seem to have
lost their way between short-term, mid-term, and long-term
financial health through improved quality and improved "exceed
the customer's expectations" for innovation and features.
Instead, they attempt to cut back and lay off to get
profitable. It doesn't work.

So, M$ isn't likely to get back to its halcyon days until the
perception by its customers gets back to "gee whiz, this is
neat stuff produced by a neat company, I'll buy more" instead
of using predatory marketing techniques to force competitors
out-of-business.

Bill the Gates is just now getting around to the idea that
anti-malware is a big industry but as usual, he is using 100
mega ton nuclear missles to swat flies and his software will
be forever in beta. He also thinks that M$ knows something
about graphics but has begun to sell photo editing apps to the
digital camera newbies with no real clue as to what the
graphics editor industry is all about, nor is M$ able to
predict where the digital camera market is going.

Which goes to my previous statement that M$ has /never/
written and sold anything truly innovative. And, the silly
shit in Windoze that has been there since 1.0 to 2.0 to 3.0 to
95 to 98 to 2000 to ME to NT to XP is still there. If you want
to control your system, you can't get there through Windoze
GUI, you need utility software, hiddle DOS-style utilities,
Registry hacks, Powertools, and 3rd party utilities. How can a
guy as brilliant as Bill the Gates not understand these simple
facts. Karen's Korner, an excellent site, wouldn't even need
to exist if M$ did its job correctly the first time.

M$ had one more chance when it completely rewrote XP for SP2
but fixed nothing. So, I have little faith in Vista being
ground-breaking software nor Longhorn. And, I have little
faith that either will come within years of their release
target.

Which brings us back full-circle to M$'s lack of stockholder
value awareness: if you can't get your new product(s) out on-
time and spend countless millions and consume thousands of
humans in a vain attempt at beating a new product into
submission, you're unlikely to be able to being it to market
with costs low enough to generate high profits. Good thing the
market really isn't competitive, huh?

Have a good one!
 
All said:
Today kurttrail commented courteously on the subject at hand


Yes, that is correct. Which is why the market is treating M$
so badly. But, wouldn't you think that 100 billionaire Bill
the Gates, whether he gives a shit for his stockholders or
not, would try to fix the company for altruistic reasons -
like getting back to a 150-250 billionaire?

Most companies, particularly American companies, seem to have
lost their way between short-term, mid-term, and long-term
financial health through improved quality and improved "exceed
the customer's expectations" for innovation and features.
Instead, they attempt to cut back and lay off to get
profitable. It doesn't work.

So, M$ isn't likely to get back to its halcyon days until the
perception by its customers gets back to "gee whiz, this is
neat stuff produced by a neat company, I'll buy more" instead
of using predatory marketing techniques to force competitors
out-of-business.

Bill the Gates is just now getting around to the idea that
anti-malware is a big industry but as usual, he is using 100
mega ton nuclear missles to swat flies and his software will
be forever in beta. He also thinks that M$ knows something
about graphics but has begun to sell photo editing apps to the
digital camera newbies with no real clue as to what the
graphics editor industry is all about, nor is M$ able to
predict where the digital camera market is going.

Which goes to my previous statement that M$ has /never/
written and sold anything truly innovative. And, the silly
shit in Windoze that has been there since 1.0 to 2.0 to 3.0 to
95 to 98 to 2000 to ME to NT to XP is still there. If you want
to control your system, you can't get there through Windoze
GUI, you need utility software, hiddle DOS-style utilities,
Registry hacks, Powertools, and 3rd party utilities. How can a
guy as brilliant as Bill the Gates not understand these simple
facts. Karen's Korner, an excellent site, wouldn't even need
to exist if M$ did its job correctly the first time.

M$ had one more chance when it completely rewrote XP for SP2
but fixed nothing. So, I have little faith in Vista being
ground-breaking software nor Longhorn. And, I have little
faith that either will come within years of their release
target.

Which brings us back full-circle to M$'s lack of stockholder
value awareness: if you can't get your new product(s) out on-
time and spend countless millions and consume thousands of
humans in a vain attempt at beating a new product into
submission, you're unlikely to be able to being it to market
with costs low enough to generate high profits. Good thing the
market really isn't competitive, huh?

Have a good one!

Vista is nothing but pretty-looking adware that is stuffed full of DRM
(see links in the sig)! And the "pretty" part of it was not even
original, it was ripped off of OSX!
 
I believe having ads in Vista is just a rumor. I've heard there will not be
any ads. If there really is, I'll loose my mind. You can't go ANYWHERE
without seeing ads these days, so I don't want to see them just to use
Windows. Let's face it folks, you see ads on every web page, e-mail, TV
(even within the shows themselves when the actors are drinking their Pepsi's
or Coke's or the like), radio, billboards, phone calls, mail, magazines,
etc. It's a very advertised society, and personally, I dislike it. I'm
sick of ads. I ALWAYS try to ignore ads because they're annoying. I do
agree if there actually were ads in Windows, it would just open more
security wounds. If they ever thought of putting ads in Vista, they had
better be disabled by default. We'll just have to wait and see, but I'm
pretty sure it's just a rumor and not reality.
 
Travis said:
I believe having ads in Vista is just a rumor. I've heard there will not be
any ads. If there really is, I'll loose my mind. You can't go ANYWHERE
without seeing ads these days, so I don't want to see them just to use
Windows. Let's face it folks, you see ads on every web page, e-mail, TV
(even within the shows themselves when the actors are drinking their Pepsi's
or Coke's or the like), radio, billboards, phone calls, mail, magazines,
etc. It's a very advertised society, and personally, I dislike it. I'm
sick of ads. I ALWAYS try to ignore ads because they're annoying. I do
agree if there actually were ads in Windows, it would just open more
security wounds. If they ever thought of putting ads in Vista, they had
better be disabled by default. We'll just have to wait and see, but I'm
pretty sure it's just a rumor and not reality.

To be honest Travis, I hope you are right. Here's the article I found
about it:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Antitrust-Case-In-The-Making-17865.shtml
http://www.adrants.com/2006/02/microsoft-faces-obstacles-over-vista-welc.php
 
I believe having ads in Vista is just a rumor. I've heard there will not be
any ads. If there really is, I'll loose my mind. You can't go ANYWHERE
without seeing ads these days, so I don't want to see them just to use
Windows. Let's face it folks, you see ads on every web page, e-mail, TV
(even within the shows themselves when the actors are drinking their Pepsi's
or Coke's or the like), radio, billboards, phone calls, mail, magazines,
etc. It's a very advertised society, and personally, I dislike it. I'm
sick of ads. I ALWAYS try to ignore ads because they're annoying. I do
agree if there actually were ads in Windows, it would just open more
security wounds. If they ever thought of putting ads in Vista, they had
better be disabled by default. We'll just have to wait and see, but I'm
pretty sure it's just a rumor and not reality.

MS is supposedly trying out selling space on the Welcome Page on the
first boot only.

OEMs will get MS to change its mind, especially in light that MS just
stole Christmas from them.

Oh, your post has been pulled from MS's news server.

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