MS update without IE

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Chakolate

I know there's a way to get Windows updates without having IE, but I can't
find it. Help, please?

Chak
 
MS updates
http://www.autopatcher.com/
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.aspx?displaylang=en&categoryid=7
http://www.microsoft.com/security/bulletins/200407_windows.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/CurrentDL.aspx

Windows XP Updates
On this page you'll find links to patches & downloads for Windows XP. I
do not include security patches here, those will always be listed on
our Windows XP Home page,
http://www.windows-help.net/WindowsXP/index.html
http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/index.html
or if they are a bit older, on the More Windows XP Related Articles
page.
http://www.windows-help.net/WindowsXP/more-articles.html

===================================

Windows XP/2000/Me/98/Server 2003: patches, service packs & updates
http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/index.html
 
(e-mail address removed) wrote:
Windows XP Updates
On this page you'll find links to patches & downloads for Windows XP. I
do not include security patches here, those will always be listed on
our Windows XP Home page,
http://www.windows-help.net/WindowsXP/index.html
http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/index.html
or if they are a bit older, on the More Windows XP Related Articles
page.
http://www.windows-help.net/WindowsXP/more-articles.html

Windows XP/2000/Me/98/Server 2003: patches, service packs & updates
http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/index.html

Very nice!! I was just looking for a convenient place to get all
updates to place on CDs. Thanks a bunch!
 
(e-mail address removed) wrote in
MS updates
http://www.autopatcher.com/
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.aspx?displaylang=en&categoryi
d=7 http://www.microsoft.com/security/bulletins/200407_windows.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/CurrentDL.aspx

Windows XP Updates
On this page you'll find links to patches & downloads for Windows XP.
I do not include security patches here, those will always be listed on
our Windows XP Home page,
http://www.windows-help.net/WindowsXP/index.html
http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/index.html
or if they are a bit older, on the More Windows XP Related Articles
page.
http://www.windows-help.net/WindowsXP/more-articles.html

===================================

Windows XP/2000/Me/98/Server 2003: patches, service packs & updates
http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/index.html

This is brilliant, and even more than I hoped for. I didn't snip it
because I think it deserves repeating. Thanks!

Chak
 
Chakolate said:
I know there's a way to get Windows updates without having IE, but I can't
find it. Help, please?

Chak
Daisy is software that will perform a similar function as Windows Update
but uses it's own servers. Check out thier web page - it's GPL'd.

http://vtntug.w2k.vt.edu/daisy.htm

Another service is WindizUpdate, a browser plug in or a standalone
installation which allows a similar experience.

http://windowsupdate.62nds.com/

Finally, you mentioned without using IE and their are two hand in hand
projects which allow you to create a custom CD along with ripping out
not only IE but a bunch of other rather useless Microsoft applets,
integrate Service Packs, hotfixes, drivers, Direct X, tweaks, etc. so
that they are part of the installation process and much more.

nLite - http://www.nliteos.com/ provides a menued interface that will do
everthing above and even create the bootable ISO for you when finished.

Fred Vorck's Remove IE guide (pre-installation)-
http://www.vorck.com/remove-ie.html
This has a dedicated Windows 2000 guide as well as a Windows XP guide
and does something similar to above and it also can be used to "trim the
fat" as well as create a smaller source to use along with nLite above.
Fair warning, this guy has had so many people tell him this can't be
done you will notice so rather straightforward language on his site. I
have had few if any problems and he has even made this a dummyproof
process for those who would rather forgo the technicalities.

If you haven't explored this topic both are good reading and detail that
IE can be completely gutted (core and all) and still have a stable
system which can run alternative software in a much more secure and less
bloated environment. This isn't for everyone so you decide.

Peace.
 
Neb said:
Why not getting BigFix...

1. Go to http://www.bigfix.com/
2. Click on where it says "Download Center >" in the lower right hand corner
3. Click on "Bigfix Consumer Edition"

It's freeware according to MajorGeeks:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download677.html

I've seen it come installed from the factory on other systems but since
I don't have and won't install MS Autoupdate on my system, I won't put
this program on my computer either. The idea of something automatically
downloading files onto my computer isn't, and won't ever be acceptable
to me.
There have been problems with certain MS updates (for instance the
notorious KB891711) and if installation had been automatic, I would have
had more problems with them than I had.

As time goes by, more and more websites are abandoning proprietary MS
website compatibility and are making their websites easy to view in
other browsers. This is a good thing. However, Microsoft has their
agenda to pursue and that Microsoft monopolistically forces a person to
use the dreaded Internet Explorer (i.e. ActiveX) in order to get updates
for Windows is something that the U.S. Justice department should be
looking into. I'm not holding my breath though. They probably already
HAVE looked into this and after a little palm greasing, dropped it.
 
John Corliss <[email protected]> wrote:
I've seen it come installed from the factory on other systems but since
I don't have and won't install MS Autoupdate on my system, I won't put
this program on my computer either. The idea of something automatically
downloading files onto my computer isn't, and won't ever be acceptable
to me.

You can select so that you are simply informed of the update. Then a
link is provided for you to read about it before downloading.
There have been problems with certain MS updates (for instance the
notorious KB891711) and if installation had been automatic, I would have
had more problems with them than I had.

I'm unaware of this problem. I've elected to get all updates (98SE,
ME, Xp Pro) and I've never recognized any problems. I really think
that it is prudent for the nominal user to get all critical updates as
soon as they are released. I missed one by two days and was exploited
because of it (XP).
As time goes by, more and more websites are abandoning proprietary MS
website compatibility and are making their websites easy to view in
other browsers. This is a good thing. However, Microsoft has their
agenda to pursue and that Microsoft monopolistically forces a person to
use the dreaded Internet Explorer (i.e. ActiveX) in order to get updates
for Windows is something that the U.S. Justice department should be
looking into. I'm not holding my breath though. They probably already
HAVE looked into this and after a little palm greasing, dropped it.

The site jmatt listed is fantastic! I can browse around the MS site
for days trying to make sense of what is what, what I need and what I
don't, etc.

The site has the main updates that are necessary, one after another!

Download them with Moz...
 
The idea of something automatically
downloading files onto my computer isn't, and won't ever be acceptable
to me.

BigFix does not have to be automatic. I use it to scan for updates, and
then Google to find out just what the updates are for before installing
them.
 
elaich said:
BigFix does not have to be automatic. I use it to scan for updates, and
then Google to find out just what the updates are for before installing
them.

Thanks, elaich. Now you've got me wondering how much in the way of
system resources the program uses, since I'm running ME.
 
Thanks, elaich. Now you've got me wondering how much in the way of
system resources the program uses, since I'm running ME.

John, I would not even be using BigFix if I was still running ME. I ran it
for five years, and buttoned up properly, it is the leanest, fastest, and
most secure of the Win9x OSes.

I think BigFix is aimed at the W2K and XP users. The few ME updates that
might appear (aside from IE and OE) can easily be gleaned from other
security related sources. It is a mature OS. ME (apart from IE and OE)
won't likely be compromised in the future.
 
I've seen it come installed from the factory on other systems but since
I don't have and won't install MS Autoupdate on my system, I won't put
this program on my computer either. The idea of something automatically
downloading files onto my computer isn't, and won't ever be acceptable
to me.

That's the reason I don't use autoupdate, as well. Thanks, anyway.

Chak
 
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