MS auto update EULA

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So the little notification appeared in my system tray.
So I click it like I always do.
So I click Express Install (Also my usual)
So it now pops up a rather long EULA which it wants me to agree to.
I cancelled.

So what is this all about???

Lou
 
Hmmm.. Is this Win xp fixes, etc. If so, I sometimes get EULA's with some of
the installs.
 
So the little notification appeared in my system tray.
So I click it like I always do.
So I click Express Install (Also my usual)
So it now pops up a rather long EULA which it wants me to agree to.
I cancelled.

So what is this all about???
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What was the name of the update that you were installing?
 
So the little notification appeared in my system tray.
So I click it like I always do.
So I click Express Install (Also my usual)
So it now pops up a rather long EULA which it wants me to agree to.
I cancelled.

So what is this all about???
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Why ask about the EULA for your commercial software's upgrade here in
the freeware group?
 
»Q« said:
Why ask about the EULA for your commercial software's upgrade here in
the freeware group?
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Turning to a source he trusts perhaps?

Technically, it'd be good to preface the subject header with "OT." But,
hey, better late than never.

Lou;
Some updates I've done in the past generate a EULA. Usually, the update
is actually a program of some kind. If I were paranoid, I'd say it's
the Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA) coming on-line. If I weren't
paranoid...oh, wait...I /am/ paranoid.

You could probably find more by re-initiating the express install
process and <cough> reading the EULA...<g>

hth,
-Craig
For more news on WGA:
http://www.crn.com/sections/breakingnews/dailyarchives.jhtml?articleId=189601999
 
Turning to a source he trusts perhaps?
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Perhaps, but would be a pretty lousy reason for using a freeware group
as a support group for commercial software.
 
»Q« said:
Perhaps, but would be a pretty lousy reason for using a freeware group
as a support group for commercial software.
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The EULA I received this morning with Australian daylight saving update
relates to WGA. Since M$ sticks WGA to you without extracting any dollars, I
guess you could argue it is freeware.
 
Brian Robertson said:
You can find some information about it here.
http://billpstudios.blogspot.com/2006/05/wgatrayexe-opens-security-hole.html
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Already done a lot of reading. This is just one more example of M$ going
over the top. In trying to legitimately protect their profits, they are
p****ing of a lot of legitimate users (yours truly included). Strategy: WGA
stays but ZoneAlarm is set to query Internet access. In addition, cross
fingers & hope.
 
»Q« said:
Perhaps, but would be a pretty lousy reason for using a freeware group
as a support group for commercial software.
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It /is/ off-topic no doubt but;

It does affect a lot of us here. I know that's not an iron-clad
justification but, still, compared to most other OT posts here, at least
there's an echo of relevance.

Personally, I don't follow a lot of ng's so, the occasional OT related
to the dominant OS doesn't get my dander up. Of course, I fully
appreciate how it may someone else's.

best,
-Craig
 
It /is/ off-topic no doubt but;

It does affect a lot of us here. I know that's not an iron-clad
justification but, still, compared to most other OT posts here, at
least there's an echo of relevance.
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Lots of things that don't have to do with freeware affect a lot of us
here. There's no echo of relevance.
Personally, I don't follow a lot of ng's so, the occasional OT
related to the dominant OS doesn't get my dander up. Of course, I
fully appreciate how it may someone else's.
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Two or three new threads a day for a while now.
 
»Q« said:
Why ask about the EULA for your commercial software's upgrade here in
the freeware group?
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I thought there was a recent thread in this group regarding MS putting
spyware on user machines.

I have made reply OT.

As Craig surmises I figured some folks in here might have comments.

As to "What update?" I do not know:-(( Every so often (Tuesdays?) I
find something in the tray.

Lou
 
I thought there was a recent thread in this group regarding MS
putting spyware on user machines.
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There was at least one thread about that, yeah. I don't think using
old off-topic threads to justify new ones is a good idea, though.
As Craig surmises I figured some folks in here might have comments.
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This is true of almost every topic you could think of.
 
»Q« said:
There was at least one thread about that, yeah. I don't think using
old off-topic threads to justify new ones is a good idea, though.




This is true of almost every topic you could think of.
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Nah.

Posts wrt WGA are pertinent enough for a ng where the majority use MS OS
products. Like being warned about d/l'ing "freeware" w/spyware, it's a
good thing. A service to the community, as it were.

And, fwiw, the "oldest" of two threads prior to this is 8 days. It's
current & it's topical enough.

-Craig
 
Nah.
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Not sure which part you disagree with.
Posts wrt WGA are pertinent enough for a ng where the majority use
MS OS products. Like being warned about d/l'ing "freeware"
w/spyware, it's a good thing. A service to the community, as it
were.
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Nah. There are better places to keep track of what's going on with
Windows. E.g., the WGA issues only surfaced here after they'd been
hashed through in other groups and on the web. People shouldn't expect
the freeware group to provide the "community service" of announcements
about Microsoft's payware systems.
And, fwiw, the "oldest" of two threads prior to this is 8 days.
It's current & it's topical enough.
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Only the oldest of the threads about the current issue with Windows.
The threads about other Windows-in-general topics go on and on.
 
So the little notification appeared in my system tray.
So I click it like I always do.
So I click Express Install (Also my usual)
So it now pops up a rather long EULA which it wants me to agree to.
I cancelled.

So what is this all about???
Click to expand...

Not sure, but you might want to run the EULA through this program-

Eulalyzer

EULAlyzer can analyze license agreements in seconds, and provide a detailed
listing of potentially interesting words and phrases. Discover if the
software you're about to install displays pop-up ads, transmits personally
identifiable information, uses unique identifiers to track you, or much
much more.

http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/eulalyzer.html
 
bambam said:
Not sure, but you might want to run the EULA through this program-

Eulalyzer

EULAlyzer can analyze license agreements in seconds, and provide a detailed
listing of potentially interesting words and phrases. Discover if the
software you're about to install displays pop-up ads, transmits personally
identifiable information, uses unique identifiers to track you, or much
much more.

http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/eulalyzer.html
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Heh. Wouldn't it suck if, like spammers and other such villains,
software companies got into a duel with such a program? You would have
EULAs would become even more complex and-or with text full of things
like spaces between the letters, sixes used for "b"s, @ signs used for
the letter "a", etc. Then there would be the need to continually update
the program as well...

But I digress.

--
Regards from John Corliss
I don't reply to trolls like Andy Mabbett or Doc (who uses sock puppets)
for instance. No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware,
demoware, nagware, PROmotionware, shareware, spyware, time-limited
software, trialware, viruses or warez for me, please.
 
bambam wrote:

Heh. Wouldn't it suck if, like spammers and other such villains,
software companies got into a duel with such a program? You would have
EULAs would become even more complex and-or with text full of things
like spaces between the letters, sixes used for "b"s, @ signs used for
the letter "a", etc. Then there would be the need to continually update
the program as well...
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EULA's are contracts. Actually adhesion contracts. They may change
the wording, but NOT the spacing of letters. It must be readable
(well maybe not by you or me).
But I digress.
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Kiind of wouldn't mind an adware downlown with an "A&D" term in the
EULA. Guess I could sue for a tube of ointment.
 
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