Monitor Problem

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adie

Hi All,

I have a strange problem
I bulid a XPE image and it run fine
but when i change other monitor

Then restart the PC
I find that the bios check is ok
but it can't into XPE
It display [No Signal]

can't anyone Help ?
How can i do and check where ?

I use [Default Monitor] & [plug and play monitor] component
 
Hi Adie,

After BIOS is done do you see XPe load progress.

If you do then you have probably set refresh rate or resolution that is not
supported by that monitor.
Try setting 800x600 60 Hz or lower if this monitor is less than 14'

Regards,
Slobodan

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Thanks Slobodan

But i do not see XPe load progress and the monitor is 17' LCD(viewsonic)
I have two monitor,
One is use for deployment , another is use for testing
[All 17' LCD(viewsonic)]

But i ues deployment monitor XPE is OK
use testing monitor XPE is fail

The monitor just display [no signal]
I use 1024*768 , 60Hz



Slobodan Brcin (eMVP) said:
Hi Adie,

After BIOS is done do you see XPe load progress.

If you do then you have probably set refresh rate or resolution that is not
supported by that monitor.
Try setting 800x600 60 Hz or lower if this monitor is less than 14'

Regards,
Slobodan

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adie said:
Hi All,

I have a strange problem
I bulid a XPE image and it run fine
but when i change other monitor

Then restart the PC
I find that the bios check is ok
but it can't into XPE
It display [No Signal]

can't anyone Help ?
How can i do and check where ?

I use [Default Monitor] & [plug and play monitor] component
 
This is strange.
Just to make sure:

1. Both monitors are same model from same manufacturer?
2. You see XPe progress bar on first monitor and you don't on second? Or you
are using /NOGUIBOOT.

Regards,
Slobodan

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adie said:
Thanks Slobodan

But i do not see XPe load progress and the monitor is 17' LCD(viewsonic)
I have two monitor,
One is use for deployment , another is use for testing
[All 17' LCD(viewsonic)]

But i ues deployment monitor XPE is OK
use testing monitor XPE is fail

The monitor just display [no signal]
I use 1024*768 , 60Hz



Slobodan Brcin (eMVP) said:
Hi Adie,

After BIOS is done do you see XPe load progress.

If you do then you have probably set refresh rate or resolution that is not
supported by that monitor.
Try setting 800x600 60 Hz or lower if this monitor is less than 14'

Regards,
Slobodan

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adie said:
Hi All,

I have a strange problem
I bulid a XPE image and it run fine
but when i change other monitor

Then restart the PC
I find that the bios check is ok
but it can't into XPE
It display [No Signal]

can't anyone Help ?
How can i do and check where ?

I use [Default Monitor] & [plug and play monitor] component
 
Thanks for answer,

1.Both Monitor are same model and manufacturer
2.I am not see the XPE propress bar , i using /NOGUIBOOT
but no use /NOGUIBOOT the result is same

I try three monitor but all fail ,
Just use the deployment monitor is OK

PC start can see the BIOS check,
FBA is OK and no error messages
but after FBA reboot ,

when the pc going into XPE ,it display [no signal]

So i feel so strange,


Slobodan Brcin (eMVP) said:
This is strange.
Just to make sure:

1. Both monitors are same model from same manufacturer?
2. You see XPe progress bar on first monitor and you don't on second? Or you
are using /NOGUIBOOT.

Regards,
Slobodan

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adie said:
Thanks Slobodan

But i do not see XPe load progress and the monitor is 17' LCD(viewsonic)
I have two monitor,
One is use for deployment , another is use for testing
[All 17' LCD(viewsonic)]

But i ues deployment monitor XPE is OK
use testing monitor XPE is fail

The monitor just display [no signal]
I use 1024*768 , 60Hz



Slobodan Brcin (eMVP) said:
Hi Adie,

After BIOS is done do you see XPe load progress.

If you do then you have probably set refresh rate or resolution that
is
not
supported by that monitor.
Try setting 800x600 60 Hz or lower if this monitor is less than 14'

Regards,
Slobodan

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Hi All,

I have a strange problem
I bulid a XPE image and it run fine
but when i change other monitor

Then restart the PC
I find that the bios check is ok
but it can't into XPE
It display [No Signal]

can't anyone Help ?
How can i do and check where ?

I use [Default Monitor] & [plug and play monitor] component
 
adie,

Have you tried a manufacturer driver? There is quite a few Viewsonic drivers
in XPe database. Or you can componentize the one you got with monitor(s). Or
search it on Google, download and componentize it (I don't know your model
but e.g. http://www.viewsoniceurope.com/data/63/vs_inf.exe).
Also, check your FBALog for any possible error. You will unlikely see it
there as you mentioned everything works fine with the deployment monitor.
But it is still worth to check.
Do you seee the issue wehn you set standard VGA resolution (640x480, 60Hz)?
To be more informed about the error, you can try /SOS boot.ini switch and
also connecting KD (Kernel Debugger) to your target.
You may also try to RDP to the device (if RDP stack is in your image and you
have a network connection), open Device Manager on target and see if Monitor
is working properly.

KM
Thanks for answer,

1.Both Monitor are same model and manufacturer
2.I am not see the XPE propress bar , i using /NOGUIBOOT
but no use /NOGUIBOOT the result is same

I try three monitor but all fail ,
Just use the deployment monitor is OK

PC start can see the BIOS check,
FBA is OK and no error messages
but after FBA reboot ,

when the pc going into XPE ,it display [no signal]

So i feel so strange,


Slobodan Brcin (eMVP) said:
This is strange.
Just to make sure:

1. Both monitors are same model from same manufacturer?
2. You see XPe progress bar on first monitor and you don't on second? Or you
are using /NOGUIBOOT.

Regards,
Slobodan

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adie said:
Thanks Slobodan

But i do not see XPe load progress and the monitor is 17' LCD(viewsonic)
I have two monitor,
One is use for deployment , another is use for testing
[All 17' LCD(viewsonic)]

But i ues deployment monitor XPE is OK
use testing monitor XPE is fail

The monitor just display [no signal]
I use 1024*768 , 60Hz



"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <[email protected]> ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó·s»D
:[email protected]...
Hi Adie,

After BIOS is done do you see XPe load progress.

If you do then you have probably set refresh rate or resolution that is
not
supported by that monitor.
Try setting 800x600 60 Hz or lower if this monitor is less than 14'

Regards,
Slobodan

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Hi All,

I have a strange problem
I bulid a XPE image and it run fine
but when i change other monitor

Then restart the PC
I find that the bios check is ok
but it can't into XPE
It display [No Signal]

can't anyone Help ?
How can i do and check where ?

I use [Default Monitor] & [plug and play monitor] component
 
If I understood correctly his last answer he can't see VGA boot load
progress bar, and that has nothing to do with drivers and monitor support.

If this is true, I'm clueless.

Regards,
Slobodan

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KM said:
adie,

Have you tried a manufacturer driver? There is quite a few Viewsonic drivers
in XPe database. Or you can componentize the one you got with monitor(s). Or
search it on Google, download and componentize it (I don't know your model
but e.g. http://www.viewsoniceurope.com/data/63/vs_inf.exe).
Also, check your FBALog for any possible error. You will unlikely see it
there as you mentioned everything works fine with the deployment monitor.
But it is still worth to check.
Do you seee the issue wehn you set standard VGA resolution (640x480, 60Hz)?
To be more informed about the error, you can try /SOS boot.ini switch and
also connecting KD (Kernel Debugger) to your target.
You may also try to RDP to the device (if RDP stack is in your image and you
have a network connection), open Device Manager on target and see if Monitor
is working properly.

KM
Thanks for answer,

1.Both Monitor are same model and manufacturer
2.I am not see the XPE propress bar , i using /NOGUIBOOT
but no use /NOGUIBOOT the result is same

I try three monitor but all fail ,
Just use the deployment monitor is OK

PC start can see the BIOS check,
FBA is OK and no error messages
but after FBA reboot ,

when the pc going into XPE ,it display [no signal]

So i feel so strange,


Slobodan Brcin (eMVP) said:
This is strange.
Just to make sure:

1. Both monitors are same model from same manufacturer?
2. You see XPe progress bar on first monitor and you don't on second?
Or
you
are using /NOGUIBOOT.

Regards,
Slobodan

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Thanks Slobodan

But i do not see XPe load progress and the monitor is 17' LCD(viewsonic)
I have two monitor,
One is use for deployment , another is use for testing
[All 17' LCD(viewsonic)]

But i ues deployment monitor XPE is OK
use testing monitor XPE is fail

The monitor just display [no signal]
I use 1024*768 , 60Hz



"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <[email protected]> ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó·s»D
:[email protected]...
Hi Adie,

After BIOS is done do you see XPe load progress.

If you do then you have probably set refresh rate or resolution
that
is
not
supported by that monitor.
Try setting 800x600 60 Hz or lower if this monitor is less than 14'

Regards,
Slobodan

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Hi All,

I have a strange problem
I bulid a XPE image and it run fine
but when i change other monitor

Then restart the PC
I find that the bios check is ok
but it can't into XPE
It display [No Signal]

can't anyone Help ?
How can i do and check where ?

I use [Default Monitor] & [plug and play monitor] component
 
Slobodan,

That's really hard to interpret the "pc going into XPE". That could be during or right after the progress bar.
That's why I mentioned the /SOS switch.

If can't even see the progress bar, then I don't know either. Seems like his "bad" monitors do not support graphic mode.

--
KM,
BSquare Corporation
If I understood correctly his last answer he can't see VGA boot load
progress bar, and that has nothing to do with drivers and monitor support.

If this is true, I'm clueless.

Regards,
Slobodan

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KM said:
adie,

Have you tried a manufacturer driver? There is quite a few Viewsonic drivers
in XPe database. Or you can componentize the one you got with monitor(s). Or
search it on Google, download and componentize it (I don't know your model
but e.g. http://www.viewsoniceurope.com/data/63/vs_inf.exe).
Also, check your FBALog for any possible error. You will unlikely see it
there as you mentioned everything works fine with the deployment monitor.
But it is still worth to check.
Do you seee the issue wehn you set standard VGA resolution (640x480, 60Hz)?
To be more informed about the error, you can try /SOS boot.ini switch and
also connecting KD (Kernel Debugger) to your target.
You may also try to RDP to the device (if RDP stack is in your image and you
have a network connection), open Device Manager on target and see if Monitor
is working properly.

KM
Thanks for answer,

1.Both Monitor are same model and manufacturer
2.I am not see the XPE propress bar , i using /NOGUIBOOT
but no use /NOGUIBOOT the result is same

I try three monitor but all fail ,
Just use the deployment monitor is OK

PC start can see the BIOS check,
FBA is OK and no error messages
but after FBA reboot ,

when the pc going into XPE ,it display [no signal]

So i feel so strange,


"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <[email protected]> ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó·s»D
:#[email protected]...
This is strange.
Just to make sure:

1. Both monitors are same model from same manufacturer?
2. You see XPe progress bar on first monitor and you don't on second? Or
you
are using /NOGUIBOOT.

Regards,
Slobodan

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Thanks Slobodan

But i do not see XPe load progress and the monitor is 17' LCD(viewsonic)
I have two monitor,
One is use for deployment , another is use for testing
[All 17' LCD(viewsonic)]

But i ues deployment monitor XPE is OK
use testing monitor XPE is fail

The monitor just display [no signal]
I use 1024*768 , 60Hz



"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <[email protected]> ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó·s»D
:[email protected]...
Hi Adie,

After BIOS is done do you see XPe load progress.

If you do then you have probably set refresh rate or resolution that
is
not
supported by that monitor.
Try setting 800x600 60 Hz or lower if this monitor is less than 14'

Regards,
Slobodan

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Hi All,

I have a strange problem
I bulid a XPE image and it run fine
but when i change other monitor

Then restart the PC
I find that the bios check is ok
but it can't into XPE
It display [No Signal]

can't anyone Help ?
How can i do and check where ?

I use [Default Monitor] & [plug and play monitor] component
 
Thanks All,

Now no problem,All monitors work fine.
I change the display adapter driver.
My display chip is Intel 845GV
Maybe i use wrong driver

Thanks very much

Regards,



KM said:
Slobodan,

That's really hard to interpret the "pc going into XPE". That could be
during or right after the progress bar.
That's why I mentioned the /SOS switch.

If can't even see the progress bar, then I don't know either. Seems like
his "bad" monitors do not support graphic mode.
--
KM,
BSquare Corporation
If I understood correctly his last answer he can't see VGA boot load
progress bar, and that has nothing to do with drivers and monitor support.

If this is true, I'm clueless.

Regards,
Slobodan

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KM said:
adie,

Have you tried a manufacturer driver? There is quite a few Viewsonic drivers
in XPe database. Or you can componentize the one you got with
monitor(s).
Or
search it on Google, download and componentize it (I don't know your model
but e.g. http://www.viewsoniceurope.com/data/63/vs_inf.exe).
Also, check your FBALog for any possible error. You will unlikely see it
there as you mentioned everything works fine with the deployment monitor.
But it is still worth to check.
Do you seee the issue wehn you set standard VGA resolution (640x480, 60Hz)?
To be more informed about the error, you can try /SOS boot.ini switch and
also connecting KD (Kernel Debugger) to your target.
You may also try to RDP to the device (if RDP stack is in your image
and
you
have a network connection), open Device Manager on target and see if Monitor
is working properly.

KM

Thanks for answer,

1.Both Monitor are same model and manufacturer
2.I am not see the XPE propress bar , i using /NOGUIBOOT
but no use /NOGUIBOOT the result is same

I try three monitor but all fail ,
Just use the deployment monitor is OK

PC start can see the BIOS check,
FBA is OK and no error messages
but after FBA reboot ,

when the pc going into XPE ,it display [no signal]

So i feel so strange,


"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <[email protected]> ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó·s»D
:#[email protected]...
This is strange.
Just to make sure:

1. Both monitors are same model from same manufacturer?
2. You see XPe progress bar on first monitor and you don't on
second?
Or
you
are using /NOGUIBOOT.

Regards,
Slobodan

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Thanks Slobodan

But i do not see XPe load progress and the monitor is 17'
LCD(viewsonic)
I have two monitor,
One is use for deployment , another is use for testing
[All 17' LCD(viewsonic)]

But i ues deployment monitor XPE is OK
use testing monitor XPE is fail

The monitor just display [no signal]
I use 1024*768 , 60Hz



"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" <[email protected]> ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó·s»D
:[email protected]...
Hi Adie,

After BIOS is done do you see XPe load progress.

If you do then you have probably set refresh rate or
resolution
that
is
not
supported by that monitor.
Try setting 800x600 60 Hz or lower if this monitor is less
than
14'
Regards,
Slobodan

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Hi All,

I have a strange problem
I bulid a XPE image and it run fine
but when i change other monitor

Then restart the PC
I find that the bios check is ok
but it can't into XPE
It display [No Signal]

can't anyone Help ?
How can i do and check where ?

I use [Default Monitor] & [plug and play monitor] component
 
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