Missing Button and Title Text

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Whenever I add content to my website which ultimately changes the navigational structure (i.e. adding pages) my button text and title text disappear from view after publishing. It appears fine on my hard drive version. This may be related to the failure to process web updates during publishing. I always get a port timed out error, although I can't find any problem with the service provider. This problem never occured before I upgraded to FrontPage 2003. I have added subwebs to my site to decrease its size (this is a photo web), but that did not help. I am unable to recalculate hyperlinks when logged into my site. I can, however, recalculate hyperlinks on the local copy, but that doesn't appear to fix the problem. >>The only solution to date, has been to open and save every page locally and then re-publish. << Any ideas on how to fix this problem so that I can avoid this step. My website is fairly large and it takes a lot of time to save every page. I add content every week, so this is very painful. I have read all the posts regarding this issue, but nothing has worked so far. My URL is www.flexphotography.com. Thanks.
 
Oh, one more point. When I upgraded to FrontPage 2003 I also changed computer systems and moved from Windows 98SE to Windows XP. I doubt that this is significant, but I wanted to make all the information about my situation available. On my old system using FrontPage 2000 I could publish without any problems. The "processing web updates" completed properly and I had no other problems. Oh, to go back in time...
 
What happens when you recalculate hyperlinks on the remote
site? For example, what's the error messge?

Also, how large is the problem Web site, in both files and
megabytes?

Jim Buyens
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-----Original Message-----
Whenever I add content to my website which ultimately
changes the navigational structure (i.e. adding pages) my
button text and title text disappear from view after
publishing. It appears fine on my hard drive version. This
may be related to the failure to process web updates
during publishing. I always get a port timed out error,
although I can't find any problem with the service
provider. This problem never occured before I upgraded to
FrontPage 2003. I have added subwebs to my site to
decrease its size (this is a photo web), but that did not
help. I am unable to recalculate hyperlinks when logged
into my site. I can, however, recalculate hyperlinks on
the local copy, but that doesn't appear to fix the
problem. >>The only solution to date, has been to open and
save every page locally and then re-publish. << Any ideas
on how to fix this problem so that I can avoid this step.
My website is fairly large and it takes a lot of time to
save every page. I add content every week, so this is very
painful. I have read all the posts regarding this issue,
but nothing has worked so far. My URL is
www.flexphotography.com. Thanks.
 
During the recalculate hyperlinks on the remote website, the thing basically times out and I get the same message as I do when publishing. Something like "port unavailable" or system 80 timed out... I don't remember exactly.

The total website is 489.84 MB, although most of that is within the subwebs, where I keep the photos. I do not know the exact number of files on my site. Each photo is around 50Kbytes, so maybe there are around 9,000 files?? I am guessing here. Can I get an exact number from within FrontPage

Brent
 
About how many pages/files are in the root web? The subwebs should not come
into play unless you are recalculating hyperlinks individually or publishing
and including subwebs.

Have you contacted your host and ask them to run a check on the extensions,
also are you at least connecting to the internet via cable or DSL?

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FrontPage Resources, WebCircle,
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Brent said:
During the recalculate hyperlinks on the remote website, the thing
basically times out and I get the same message as I do when publishing.
Something like "port unavailable" or system 80 timed out... I don't remember
exactly.
The total website is 489.84 MB, although most of that is within the
subwebs, where I keep the photos. I do not know the exact number of files on
my site. Each photo is around 50Kbytes, so maybe there are around 9,000
files?? I am guessing here. Can I get an exact number from within FrontPage?
 
There are about 90 primary pages on the main web, but due to the high number of images on my site there are a total of 15,000 files--mostly thumbnail images contained in the photo gallery directory. The primary web is about 105Mbytes. The larger jpeg files for each thumbnail are in the subwebs. The four subwebs contain a total of 15,000 more files consuming about 364Mbytes

I use a 640K DSL connection for uploading. I have installed and reinstalled the FrontPage extensions on my site several times. They appear to be good. I haven't actually had the provider check them for me.

Brent
 
I would suggest doing one of the following...

1. Create a subweb for each photo gallery with both thumbs and full size
images.

2. Use a server-side scripting language such as ASP to create a photo galley
in the root web, and store all gallery images (thumbs and full size) in a
subweb. This would allow you to use FTP to upload images, and not FP.

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==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


Brent said:
There are about 90 primary pages on the main web, but due to the high
number of images on my site there are a total of 15,000 files--mostly
thumbnail images contained in the photo gallery directory. The primary web
is about 105Mbytes. The larger jpeg files for each thumbnail are in the
subwebs. The four subwebs contain a total of 15,000 more files consuming
about 364Mbytes.
I use a 640K DSL connection for uploading. I have installed and
reinstalled the FrontPage extensions on my site several times. They appear
to be good. I haven't actually had the provider check them for me.
 
Okay, since I don't know anything about server-side scripting, I'll choose number one instead. This is a large change to my website, so how confident are you that this will work? Could I just make a subweb out of my photogallery directory? Do I actually need to put the thumbs and full size images in the same subweb

Sorry to be a pest, but I want to fix this problem with the simplest solution

Brent
 
Brent,

Here is a simple ASP based photo galley application, if you are hosted on a
server that supports ASP, no database is required

http://digitalcolony.com/01/photo/


Now back to the subweb option, I think it would work just fine with just
convert the photo gallery to subweb, but the reason I suggested everything
together, was so that you have a complete folder (subweb) of a single
gallery.

The goal is to separate the content that you need to update on a regular
basis from content that is basically static.
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==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


Brent said:
Okay, since I don't know anything about server-side scripting, I'll choose
number one instead. This is a large change to my website, so how confident
are you that this will work? Could I just make a subweb out of my
photogallery directory? Do I actually need to put the thumbs and full size
images in the same subweb?
 
I understand. I will look into the ASP, but in the meantime will forge ahead on the subweb option. Perhaps I will switch the existing photogallery to a subweb, but with future content I will place the thumbs and their full images into new subwebs. This will minimize the rework at this point and allow for a gradual change to a new structure as I retire the old images

Thanks for your help. I hope this works

Brent
 
Okay, I tried switching the photogallery directory to a subweb. It worked well on my local machine, but when I published it, the photogallerys would not display. It just showed [photogallery/photo000214/real.htm] where the photogallery should be. If I appended this path to the page name in the web browser address it displayed the photogallery, so I know the data is present in the subweb. The link is somehow broken. I tried everything I could think of, but nothing helped. I finally merged the photogallery subweb back as a directory and everything worked again. What do I need to do to get the photogallery directory operate correctly as a subweb

Brent
 
Okay, I finally found the solution. I always found that anytime I opened my Table of Contents page within Frontpage that it was really slow to open. After thinking about it for a while, I decided to delete the page from my web. As a result, I can now easily upload web updates. The "processing web updates" step at the end of publishing completes correctly and I have no missing button or title text. So, for very large websites with lots of content, I recommend against a Table of Contents page. I am so happy now.
 

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