Maybe I just need a very knowledgeable "mentor"

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There are a lot of people on this newsgroup that could probably be a mentor
(if they wanted to). Point me in the right directions and I'll do the
research - then ask the questions that will, inevitably, come up. Any
takers?
 
+++Bobby "O"+++ said:
There are a lot of people on this newsgroup that could probably be a mentor
(if they wanted to). Point me in the right directions and I'll do the
research - then ask the questions that will, inevitably, come up. Any
takers?

No one has any obligation to give you a free education.
Start by buying a book on building PC's at your local
book store. Begin by making an effort yourself. No one
wants to help a leach.

-- Bob Day
 
Bob Day said:
No one has any obligation to give you a free education.
Start by buying a book on building PC's at your local
book store. Begin by making an effort yourself. No one
wants to help a leach.

FAIRLY HARSH WORDS - I HAVE NO INTENTION OF BEING A LEACH - BUT NEITHER DO I
WANT TO START SOMETHING WHEN I KNOW NEXT TO NOTHING AND SO MUCH CAN GO
WRONG - AND I COULD 'BURN' A LOT OF MONEY IF I DESTROY SOME COMPONENTS IN
THE PROCESS (OR BUY THE WRONG COMPONENTS). IF THE SHOE WERE ON THE OTHER
FOOT, I WOULD GLADLY SPEND SOME TIME BEING A MENTOR TO OTHERS (AND HAVE DONE
SO IN MY PROFESSION).

BY THE WAY, DID YOU EVER WORK AT EASTMAN KODAK? I USED TO KNOW A BOB DAY IN
THE PACKAGING DEPARTMENT THERE.
 
+++Bobby "O"+++ said:
There are a lot of people on this newsgroup that could probably be a mentor
(if they wanted to). Point me in the right directions and I'll do the
research - then ask the questions that will, inevitably, come up. Any
takers?

What are your questions?
 
Bob Day = 24 hr help desk wannabe
ignore him and anyone that uses '24hr help desk' as a home.
 
I've read a lot about building my own PC - but it seems like a daunting task
just to map out exactly what I want. I'd like a system that has as much as
possible built in to it (as opposed to peripherals like I have now connected
to my notebook's docking station).

I'd like a large tower with room for expansion.

How do I choose a motherboard and processor (and memory)?

Those are just for starters............
 
Well for starters how do you intend to use this computer? What are your
needs specifically? How much money do you anticipate spending? Do you have a
preference for which cpu that you'll use?
 
+++Bobby "O"+++ said:
I've read a lot about building my own PC - but it seems like a daunting task
just to map out exactly what I want. I'd like a system that has as much as
possible built in to it (as opposed to peripherals like I have now connected
to my notebook's docking station).

Building a computer from components is easy. You just buy the
components you want and connect them together in a case. At a
minimum, you need:

- a motherboard
- a CPU
- memory
- a power supply
- a disk drive
- a keyboard
- a mouse
- a monitor
- a video card (if not included on motherboard)
- a CD or DVD drive (to install software)
- an operating system
- one or more fans (optional in some cases, but always a good idea)

You can expand on this to almost any extent you desire, with extra or
larger disks, a fancier video card, more CD/DVD drives, other
peripherals like joysticks and scanners, and so on.
I'd like a large tower with room for expansion.

If you are making your own, you can buy any kind of case you want.
Pretty much all of them will accept all the standard sizes for
motherboards, especially towers.
How do I choose a motherboard and processor (and memory)?

They have to be compatible with each other. Beyond that, it's a
question of what you want to pay and what features you want on the
board. More expensive boards may have more slots for memory or
expansion, or more on-board hardware (audio controllers, Ethernet
network connections, USB ports, sometimes built-in video), or
better-known chipsets (Intel vs. Acme). Prices for motherboards range
from tens of dollars to hundreds of dollars. The same is true for
processors and memory. So you might spend anywhere from $100 to $1000
for these components.

The motherboard has to accept the processor you want. Different
processors mount in different types of sockets, and the motherboard
has only one specific socket. You can choose either the motherboard
first or the CPU first, but they have to be compatible with each
other.

The same is true for memory, although memory is a lot more
standardized so you have more flexibility on that point.

If you have an old PC, you can recycle many components, such as
extension cards or CD/DVD/floppy drives. A new floppy or CD drive can
be had very cheaply, though.

Depending on how often you've done it, assembling it all takes
anywhere from a few hours to 30 minutes. It's hard to mess up because
most connections only fit in one kind of socket, so connecting the
wrong cables to the wrong place is easy to avoid. The only tool you
really need is a medium-sized Philips-head screwdriver (for screws
that have a head that looks like a plus sign, '+').
 
My thought is to build a top end PC (speed, top-rated components, etc.) with
room for expansion. Also, I'd like the backup capability built-in. The
motherboard and processor should be capable of upgrades. As of now, I'd use
Windows XP Pro as the OS - but who knows what will be the next Microsoft OS
(and when). The power supply must be powerful enough to handle anything I
might throw at this machine. The machine should be fairly quiet with plenty
of cooling capacity (but, I don't know if I want to mess with liquid
cooling - I'm afraid that I might do something wrong and spring a leak -
thereby ruining my PC). For now, I foresee using this PC for Photoshop,
playing music on a 7.1 or 8.1 sound card, and videoconferencing. Once those
items are set up, I'd probably look for more things I could do with this PC
(things I may not now know exist). That's one of my questions: where do I
look to find other things that are available or things to come? I don't
have a preference of CPU because I don't know enough about them. I would
probably want 10,000 rpm drives (to add to the speed). I've heard of RAID
configurations - but don't know the pros and cons of them. What can be
done? I always backup my PC and also clone another drive once-a-week so I
will never (???) crash completely. I'm trying not to have too may wires
exterior to the PC - like I have now - but, I guess, every peripheral has to
have both power and a connection to the PC. I will also want to use my PC
as a media center for my home with a wireless router. Perhaps a built-in
telephone with message capability (don't know if there is such a thing).
The case should be easy to get access to the interior and to the components.
At the moment, I'm not considering the cost - but I want a machine to be my
*hobby* for some years - so I'll probably be willing to spend what I need
to. However, I'm retired and living on a fixed income - so, I may have to
build this machine in stages as the money becomes available. At this time,
I just don't know how this will play out. About this time next year, I will
be moving to Texas to live near one of my sons - and this hobby will be
something we can do together. That's when I will be building this machine -
but I want to start my research now so I'm well prepared. Who knows - if I
become confident enough, I may want to build the basics of this machine
sooner so I can, at least, duplicate what I have now.

What I have now is a 1GHz notebook, Windows XP Pro, a wired router, scanner,
three exterior Maxtor drives (for backup), a spare drive to clone
once-a-week, high speed Internet, and an Epson graphics printer. The
slowness of this machine drives me crazy and, even though I use an expansion
docking station, there is no more room for expansion. Oh, I also have an
Intuos 2 graphics tablet. I don't plan to do video editing at this time.
I've tried videoconferencing - but the frame rate is still too slow for me.
I also use Dragon Naturally Speaking - but my system is too slow for that
too.

I can't think of anything more at the moment...........
 
This is a copy of what I posted in the previous response:

My thought is to build a top end PC (speed, top-rated components, etc.) with
room for expansion. Also, I'd like the backup capability built-in. The
motherboard and processor should be capable of upgrades. As of now, I'd use
Windows XP Pro as the OS - but who knows what will be the next Microsoft OS
(and when). The power supply must be powerful enough to handle anything I
might throw at this machine. The machine should be fairly quiet with plenty
of cooling capacity (but, I don't know if I want to mess with liquid
cooling - I'm afraid that I might do something wrong and spring a leak -
thereby ruining my PC). For now, I foresee using this PC for Photoshop,
playing music on a 7.1 or 8.1 sound card, and videoconferencing. Once those
items are set up, I'd probably look for more things I could do with this PC
(things I may not now know exist). That's one of my questions: where do I
look to find other things that are available or things to come? I don't
have a preference of CPU because I don't know enough about them. I would
probably want 10,000 rpm drives (to add to the speed). I've heard of RAID
configurations - but don't know the pros and cons of them. What can be
done? I always backup my PC and also clone another drive once-a-week so I
will never (???) crash completely. I'm trying not to have too may wires
exterior to the PC - like I have now - but, I guess, every peripheral has to
have both power and a connection to the PC. I will also want to use my PC
as a media center for my home with a wireless router. Perhaps a built-in
telephone with message capability (don't know if there is such a thing).
The case should be easy to get access to the interior and to the components.
At the moment, I'm not considering the cost - but I want a machine to be my
*hobby* for some years - so I'll probably be willing to spend what I need
to. However, I'm retired and living on a fixed income - so, I may have to
build this machine in stages as the money becomes available. At this time,
I just don't know how this will play out. About this time next year, I will
be moving to Texas to live near one of my sons - and this hobby will be
something we can do together. That's when I will be building this machine -
but I want to start my research now so I'm well prepared. Who knows - if I
become confident enough, I may want to build the basics of this machine
sooner so I can, at least, duplicate what I have now.

What I have now is a 1GHz notebook, Windows XP Pro, a wired router, scanner,
three exterior Maxtor drives (for backup), a spare drive to clone
once-a-week, high speed Internet, and an Epson graphics printer. The
slowness of this machine drives me crazy and, even though I use an expansion
docking station, there is no more room for expansion. Oh, I also have an
Intuos 2 graphics tablet. I don't plan to do video editing at this time.
I've tried videoconferencing - but the frame rate is still too slow for me.
I also use Dragon Naturally Speaking - but my system is too slow for that
too.

I can't think of anything more at the moment...........
 
Didn't know if both of you would read a reply sent to only one of you.
Guess I'm not really up to the protocols in newsgroups. Sorry.........
 
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