Marriage pictures GONE!

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I took pictures on my digital camera.
i connected through USB, i opened then the memory card of my camera through
"my computer" and selected the files (pictures) from the memory card, i
clicked "CUT", then made a folder on my desktop, named it and opened it, i
clicked PASTE and i waited for the files moving to end, then i closed
everything. I re-opened the folder on my desktop, the files were there.i
closed the whole, disconnected the USB and made the steps to shut down
properly. While shutting down windows, the power went off, so the pc went off
without shutting down normally. after arranging the power, i turned it on, i
didn't do the disk check ( i bypassed it) and when windows was on, my folder
was not on the desktop, i searched everywhere for it.... NOTHING! The
pictures disappeared from the pc, and they r no more on my memory stick
(camera) and the worst is that they are WEDDING PIX...
 
chadim said:
I took pictures on my digital camera.
i connected through USB, i opened then the memory card of my camera
through "my computer" and selected the files (pictures) from the
memory card, i clicked "CUT", then made a folder on my desktop, named
it and opened it, i clicked PASTE and i waited for the files moving
to end, then i closed everything. I re-opened the folder on my
desktop, the files were there.i closed the whole, disconnected the
USB and made the steps to shut down properly. While shutting down
windows, the power went off, so the pc went off without shutting down
normally. after arranging the power, i turned it on, i didn't do the
disk check ( i bypassed it) and when windows was on, my folder was
not on the desktop, i searched everywhere for it.... NOTHING! The
pictures disappeared from the pc, and they r no more on my memory
stick (camera) and the worst is that they are WEDDING PIX...
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Sorry to hear about your loss.
Are you asking how to get them back or just sharing?
 
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| I took pictures on my digital camera.
| i connected through USB, i opened then the memory card of my camera through
| "my computer" and selected the files (pictures) from the memory card, i
| clicked "CUT", then made a folder on my desktop, named it and opened it, i
| clicked PASTE and i waited for the files moving to end, then i closed
| everything. I re-opened the folder on my desktop, the files were there.i
| closed the whole, disconnected the USB and made the steps to shut down
| properly. While shutting down windows, the power went off, so the pc went off
| without shutting down normally. after arranging the power, i turned it on, i
| didn't do the disk check ( i bypassed it) and when windows was on, my folder
| was not on the desktop, i searched everywhere for it.... NOTHING! The
| pictures disappeared from the pc, and they r no more on my memory stick
| (camera) and the worst is that they are WEDDING PIX...
 
chadim said:
I took pictures on my digital camera.
i connected through USB, i opened then the memory card of
my camera through "my computer" and selected the files
(pictures) from the memory card, i clicked "CUT", then
made a folder on my desktop, named it and opened it, i
clicked PASTE and i waited for the files moving to end,
then i closed everything. I re-opened the folder on my
desktop, the files were there.i closed the whole,
disconnected the USB and made the steps to shut down
properly. While shutting down windows, the power went
off, so the pc went off without shutting down normally.
after arranging the power, i turned it on, i didn't do
the disk check ( i bypassed it) and when windows was on,
my folder was not on the desktop, i searched everywhere
for it.... NOTHING! The pictures disappeared from the pc,
and they r no more on my memory stick (camera) and the
worst is that they are WEDDING PIX...
Click to expand...


One of the very last things WinXP does before shutting down is to
save the user's most recent settings, which naturally includes the
contents of the desktop. If power was interrupted before this save
action was complete, the files very well may be permanently gone. The
Chkdsk that you bypassed _might_ have recovered some of the files, but
the odds are against it.

This is one of the reasons I always advise people the not save
important files on the desktop, which is, in reality a virtual folder
in the computer's RAM, while the pertinent user is logged in.
Additionally, I usually advise people to Copy and Paste, which leaves
the original files intact should something go wrong, rather than to
Cut and Paste, which deletes the original files as they're loaded into
RAM.


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chadim said:
I took pictures on my digital camera.
i connected through USB, i opened then the memory card of my camera
through "my computer" and selected the files (pictures) from the
memory card, i clicked "CUT", then made a folder on my desktop,
named it and opened it, i clicked PASTE and i waited for the files
moving to end, then i closed everything. I re-opened the folder on
my desktop, the files were there.i closed the whole, disconnected
the USB and made the steps to shut down properly. While shutting
down windows, the power went off, so the pc went off without
shutting down normally. after arranging the power, i turned it on,
i didn't do the disk check ( i bypassed it) and when windows was
on, my folder was not on the desktop, i searched everywhere for
it.... NOTHING! The pictures disappeared from the pc, and they r no
more on my memory stick (camera) and the worst is that they are
WEDDING PIX...
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Shenan said:
Sorry to hear about your loss.
Are you asking how to get them back or just sharing?
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Herb said:
Go to the site below and download Smart Recovery, a free program that
might be able to salvage the deleted pics on the card.

http://tinyurl.com/3frl8
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Cool Herb! Learn something new everyday!
 
In the future, use COPY to copy the files to a new destination. After
copying, verify the integrity of the pictures at the destination. Once you
have verified that the pictures have copied successfully, then delete them
from the source. Using Copy and Paste is dangerous at best. If there is a
power surge or brown-out during the transfer, then the files will be lost.
Cut removes the files from the source and puts them in temporary memory,
either physical memory or swap file, and then writes them to the
destination. Any incident that interrupts this process will result in the
loss of the files, as they are in "volatile" memory.

Bobby
 
..... snip .....
This is one of the reasons I always advise people the not save
important files on the desktop, which is, in reality a virtual folder
in the computer's RAM, while the pertinent user is logged in.
..... snip .....
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I would be interested in reading any references you can give me on
this. My monitor program shows a file being written to:-

C:\Documents and Settings\myusername\Desktop

at the same time that I copy a file to my desktop; so on my system it
would appear to be put onto the hard drive immediately, not at some
later time when I log off.
 
Aussie said:
I would be interested in reading any references you can give me on
this. My monitor program shows a file being written to:-

C:\Documents and Settings\myusername\Desktop

at the same time that I copy a file to my desktop; so on my system it
would appear to be put onto the hard drive immediately, not at some
later time when I log off.
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My Document folder is a safe place for personal files.
For example, according to the instruction, when we use system
restoration to restore a system to an earlier time point, files in My
Document will not be changed. So on......
 
Why have someone buy something, when Herb posted a great program that is free? Again, if it doesn't have MS's seal of approval, you won't recommend it. it is obvious that partners make money both ways, and MS doesn't actually support 3rd party software, unless it makes them money also. You never hear MS support "freeware", and most people know why.

I have a question for you, is there anything in your life (cars, foodstuffs, everything) that you'll buy if it doesn't have the MS seal of approval?
 
Shenan said:
Cool Herb! Learn something new everyday!
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It's a great little program and once salvaged a bunch of pictures from a
SmartMedia card for me. The parent site is a little confusing, and
there's one part of it that makes it seem as though you have to pay for
the program, but it is indeed free.
 
One of the very last things WinXP does before shutting down is to save the
user's most recent settings

Quite true.
, which naturally includes the contents of the desktop.
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"Naturally"? Hardly. "Contents"? Define what you mean by "contents". At the
moment, with your "the Desktop is in a reality a virtual folder in the
computer's RAM" explanation you are quite wrong. The "Desktop" is an actual
folder on an actual hard drive. While settings in RAM may be written to the
hard drive at shutdown, the contents of the Desktop are always on the hard
drive.

To the original poster: Search your HD for the name of the files(s) in teh
folder, or the name of the folder, or dig through the various copies of the
Desktop folder(s) to see if your folder of pics is in there. Good luck.

I agree with your recommendation to Copy/Paste rather than Cut/Paste --
especially from removable media.

Oops. Just noticed another basic error. Oh dear. :-)

You said: "Cut and Paste, which deletes the original files as they're loaded
into RAM." Not so. The "Cut" occurs after the "Paste" to the new location
has been verified. IOW, Cut/Paste is not Delete from A/Copy to RAM -> Write
to B, but rather Copy from A to RAM -> Write to B -> Verify B -> Delete from
A. This is very basic stuff, you know. Very basic stuff.
 
NoNoBadDog! said:
In the future, use COPY to copy the files to a new destination. After
copying, verify the integrity of the pictures at the destination. Once you
have verified that the pictures have copied successfully, then delete them
from the source. Using Copy and Paste is dangerous at best.
Agreed.

If there is a power surge or brown-out during the transfer, then the files will be lost.
Cut removes the files from the source and puts them in temporary memory,
either physical memory or swap file, and then writes them to the
destination. Any incident that interrupts this process will result in the
loss of the files, as they are in "volatile" memory.
Click to expand...


Not so. The files cannot be lost because the existence of the new file must
be verified before the old file is deleted. Maybe you and the other fellow
are misunderstanding the role of a disk cache when you talk about the file
being deleted when it's written to RAM. That is simply not how it happens.
:-)
 
When you say you "searched everywhere", did you use the Search tool in
Windows Explorer to do it? You should search all drives, but search for "
*.jpg " (or whatever format your camera saves files in) and look to see if
the files and the folder exists somewhere unexpected. If the picture files
had a unique name (on the camera's memory stick) it would make the list of
jpgs to look through much shorter.
Just checking- sorry if this is obvious.
 
Peter said:
The "Desktop" is an
actual folder on an actual hard drive.
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A folder that is open and in use while the pertinent user is
logged in.

While settings in
RAM may be written to the hard drive at shutdown, the
contents of the Desktop are always on the hard drive.
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Always??? Then try to explain the data loss caused by a power
interruption. If the all of the desktop folder's files were always
safely on the hard drive, the power interruption would not have hurt,
much less eradicated, them without also damaging the hard drive.

You said: "Cut and Paste, which deletes the original
files as they're loaded into RAM." Not so. The "Cut"
occurs after the "Paste" to the new location has been
verified. IOW, Cut/Paste is not Delete from A/Copy to
RAM -> Write to B, but rather Copy from A to RAM -> Write
to B -> Verify B -> Delete from A. This is very basic
stuff, you know. Very basic stuff.
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Basic, it might be, but you are mistaken. I've seen far too many
Cut & Paste (and Move) operations interrupted half-way through - due
to power losses, usually - that result in the loss of both the
original data and the new "copy" to put any credence into your
copy/verify/delete scenario. I speak from experience, not from
theory.





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Bruce Chambers

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You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever
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Bruce Chambers said:
A folder that is open and in use while the pertinent user is logged
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in.

Quite. And this being true does not invalidate what I said. However, what I
said, if true, does invalidate what you said. To whit: "This is one of the
reasons I always advise people the not save important files on the desktop,
which is, in reality a virtual folder in the computer's RAM, while the
pertinent user is logged in." Not true. The "Desktop" is an actual folder on
the actual hard drive not a "virtual folder" (what exactly is a "virtual
folder" anyway?) in the computer's RAM.
contents of the Desktop are always on the hard drive.
Always???
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Well, there may be the occasional millisecond when cached files are not
written, but for all practical purposes "always" covers it. And "always"
covers it a whole lot better than "virtually".
Then try to explain the data loss caused by a power interruption.
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What data loss? Lots of things cause data loss. And lots of reason -- other
than the false one you stated -- cause files to be lost.

Here's a clue: Try to support your claim when challenged rather than
scrambling to disprove another's. If the Desktop is a "virtual folder in
RAM" it shoudl be documented. Find the proof. And where's my proof that the
Desktop is an actual folder on the hard drive? Easy. Search for "Desktop".
There. That oughta do it. :-)
Basic, it might be, but you are mistaken.
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Nope. And basic it remains.

Look, it's no biggie. You don't understand how things work. Lots of people
don't. The main problem is that you think you do.
I've seen far too many Cut & Paste (and Move) operations interrupted
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half-way through - due to power losses, usually

Really? You should get yourself an UPS or a more reliable source of pwoer.
Or feed the hamster or something. :-)

- that result in the loss of both the
original data and the new "copy" to put any credence into your
copy/verify/delete scenario. I speak from experience, not from
theory.
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Ah, experience. Well, I speak from experience. About 28 years of it. Not
that it really matters, because if I stated it was as you stated, I'd be
wrong. You see, facts remain facts regardless of the number of years
experience or not.
HAND
 
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