Lost the envelope that appears in taskbar for mail notification

[Guest]

The small envelope that shows in the taskbar as a mail notification was lost
and I can not figure out how to get it back. I like that style of
notification better than the other ways and have relied on it heavily to make
sure I read every e-mail sent in a timely manner.

 

[Francine Otterson]

Check to see that email notification is checked under Tools - Options -
Email Options - Advanced Email Options - Show Icon in Notification area
needs to be checked.

Regards

 

[Guest]

I have everything checked but it seems to only do it sometimes. I thought I
had it figured out by not minimizing outlook, just clicking on other windows,
but now it is not putting the envelope again. I can't figure out how to get
it do it all the time. This is in Outlook 2003. I have 2002 at home and
have never had this problem.

 

[derdle]

Also bear in mind if you use Windows XP that it auto-hides unclicked
icons in your taskbar - so check it's not just hidden itself behind the
arrow because you've not clicked on it

 

[Brian Tillman]

I have everything checked but it seems to only do it sometimes. I
thought I had it figured out by not minimizing outlook, just clicking
on other windows, but now it is not putting the envelope again. I
can't figure out how to get it do it all the time. This is in
Outlook 2003. I have 2002 at home and have never had this problem.

It could be a Windows XP side-effect. If that's your OS, right-click the
System Tray, choose "Customize Notifications", find the icon labeled "You
have new unopened items", and click the behavior to change it to "Always
show". Click OK, then OK.

 

[Guest]

Hi Francine: I also have the same problem with the email nitification
"envelope" missing? I did go thru the steps outlined and I have used Outlook
in the past as well as OE. I am talking about the 2007 Beta Outlook product -
it just won't display the envelope?

 

[JohnSS]

Using Outlook '07 (not beta) - I have tried every suggestion on this. Even
did a "repair" to no avial. Any other thoughts? I can get the "toast" pop
-up but no envelope.

thanks!

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

Try downloading Knockout from http://www.sunflowerhead.com and see if using
its options will get the envelope to show.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
ALWAYS post your Outlook version.
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After furious head scratching, JohnSS asked:

| Using Outlook '07 (not beta) - I have tried every suggestion on this.
| Even did a "repair" to no avial. Any other thoughts? I can get the
| "toast" pop -up but no envelope.
|
| thanks!
|
| "HalRic52" wrote:
|
|| Hi Francine: I also have the same problem with the email nitification
|| "envelope" missing? I did go thru the steps outlined and I have used
|| Outlook in the past as well as OE. I am talking about the 2007 Beta
|| Outlook product - it just won't display the envelope?
||
|| "Francine Otterson" wrote:
||
||| Check to see that email notification is checked under Tools -
||| Options - Email Options - Advanced Email Options - Show Icon in
||| Notification area needs to be checked.
|||
||| Regards
|||
||| --
||| Francine Otterson
||| President, San Diego Outlook User Group
||| |||| The small envelope that shows in the taskbar as a mail
|||| notification was lost
|||| and I can not figure out how to get it back. I like that style of
|||| notification better than the other ways and have relied on it
|||| heavily to make
|||| sure I read every e-mail sent in a timely manner.

 

[JohnSS]

Nice apps but no luck. Tried uninstalling Outlook but still no go....

I might try one more time. Reboot, the whole deal.

 

[JohnSS]

It turns out with Outlook '07 - if you have a rule set to move messages
automatically out of the "inbox" to another folder - the envelope won't
appear. I cleared the rule for one account and now envelope appears in the
task bar. Simple but a dumb aspect of '07.

Nice apps but no luck. Tried uninstalling Outlook but still no go....

I might try one more time. Reboot, the whole deal.

Try downloading Knockout from http://www.sunflowerhead.com and see if using
its options will get the envelope to show.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
ALWAYS post your Outlook version.
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, JohnSS asked:

| Using Outlook '07 (not beta) - I have tried every suggestion on this.
| Even did a "repair" to no avial. Any other thoughts? I can get the
| "toast" pop -up but no envelope.
|
| thanks!
|
| "HalRic52" wrote:
|
|| Hi Francine: I also have the same problem with the email nitification
|| "envelope" missing? I did go thru the steps outlined and I have used
|| Outlook in the past as well as OE. I am talking about the 2007 Beta
|| Outlook product - it just won't display the envelope?
||
|| "Francine Otterson" wrote:
||
||| Check to see that email notification is checked under Tools -
||| Options - Email Options - Advanced Email Options - Show Icon in
||| Notification area needs to be checked.
|||
||| Regards
|||
||| --
||| Francine Otterson
||| President, San Diego Outlook User Group
||| |||| The small envelope that shows in the taskbar as a mail
|||| notification was lost
|||| and I can not figure out how to get it back. I like that style of
|||| notification better than the other ways and have relied on it
|||| heavily to make
|||| sure I read every e-mail sent in a timely manner.

 

[Jo]

JohnSS, this is a major revelation! I've cursed for years about this, where
sometimes it would show the envelope and sometimes it wouldn't. I'm now using
Outlook 2007 and it's doing it again. I always assumed it might be
interference from 3rd party anti-spam filters, but it never occurred to me
that it might only appear when something lands AND STAYS in the Inbox, but
not when it gets whisked away to another folder. Talk about the left hand not
knowing what the right hand is doing! Where did you come across this
explanation?

Jo

It turns out with Outlook '07 - if you have a rule set to move messages
automatically out of the "inbox" to another folder - the envelope won't
appear. I cleared the rule for one account and now envelope appears in the
task bar. Simple but a dumb aspect of '07.

Nice apps but no luck. Tried uninstalling Outlook but still no go....

I might try one more time. Reboot, the whole deal.

Try downloading Knockout from http://www.sunflowerhead.com and see if using
its options will get the envelope to show.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.
ALWAYS post your Outlook version.
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375


After furious head scratching, JohnSS asked:

| Using Outlook '07 (not beta) - I have tried every suggestion on this.
| Even did a "repair" to no avial. Any other thoughts? I can get the
| "toast" pop -up but no envelope.
|
| thanks!
|
| "HalRic52" wrote:
|
|| Hi Francine: I also have the same problem with the email nitification
|| "envelope" missing? I did go thru the steps outlined and I have used
|| Outlook in the past as well as OE. I am talking about the 2007 Beta
|| Outlook product - it just won't display the envelope?
||
|| "Francine Otterson" wrote:
||
||| Check to see that email notification is checked under Tools -
||| Options - Email Options - Advanced Email Options - Show Icon in
||| Notification area needs to be checked.
|||
||| Regards
|||
||| --
||| Francine Otterson
||| President, San Diego Outlook User Group
||| |||| The small envelope that shows in the taskbar as a mail
|||| notification was lost
|||| and I can not figure out how to get it back. I like that style of
|||| notification better than the other ways and have relied on it
|||| heavily to make
|||| sure I read every e-mail sent in a timely manner.

 

[Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]]

JohnSS, this is a major revelation! I've cursed for years about this, where
sometimes it would show the envelope and sometimes it wouldn't. I'm now
using
Outlook 2007 and it's doing it again. I always assumed it might be
interference from 3rd party anti-spam filters, but it never occurred to me
that it might only appear when something lands AND STAYS in the Inbox, but
not when it gets whisked away to another folder. Talk about the left hand
not
knowing what the right hand is doing! Where did you come across this
explanation?

It's been true since Outlook 2003 SP1, I believe.

 

[Jo]

It's been true since Outlook 2003 SP1, I believe.

Thanks for your reply, Brian. That's probably about when I first started
noticing it. It seems counterproductive, to say the least. Why would MS offer
the ability to notify you of incoming email, as well as the ability to sort
the email into different folders (keeps things a lot saner when you get a lot
of different kinds of email), only to force you to choose between one or the
other?

Is there some other way to get it to notify you? I just looked at the rules
and it seems they might allow you to display a desktop notification, which I
assume is the little transparent window that hovers briefly above the System
Tray, but if I don't happen to be looking there, I'll miss it. The envelope
is useful because it stays there until I see it and read one of the new
emails.

Jo

 

[Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]]

Thanks for your reply, Brian. That's probably about when I first started
noticing it. It seems counterproductive, to say the least. Why would MS
offer
the ability to notify you of incoming email, as well as the ability to sort
the email into different folders (keeps things a lot saner when you get a
lot
of different kinds of email), only to force you to choose between one or the
other?

So many people complained that the icon in the system tray would appear even
though they already sorted their mail with rules that Microsoft decided to
change the behavior. Instead of adding a user-friendly option to choose which
behavior to use, Microsoft, as is its wont, made it a forced change for
everyone so that rules run before the process that posts the new message icon
instead of after.

Is there some other way to get it to notify you? I just looked at the rules
and it seems they might allow you to display a desktop notification, which I
assume is the little transparent window that hovers briefly above the System
Tray, but if I don't happen to be looking there, I'll miss it. The envelope
is useful because it stays there until I see it and read one of the new
emails.

While the rule can display a desktop notification, as you observe (and play a
sound as well or instead), you can't make it display the new messages
envelope. The same things happens for Junk E-mail.

 

[Jo]

Thanks for the explanation, Brian. It seems like Microsoft behaves more like
IBM every day ("there is only one solution and we will decide what that is,
and we're so big you won't have [much of a] choice"). At least now I know why
it's behaving this way. I kept thinking it was 3rd party anti-spam filters!
Thanks again.

Jo

 

[JohnSS]

In the "advanced settings" it says "Inbox default only." Eureka!

Actually... it worked for me on the '03 version. My solution was to not sort
my primary email and leave them in the "Inbox". Screwy change that's for
sure...

Thanks for the explanation, Brian. It seems like Microsoft behaves more like
IBM every day ("there is only one solution and we will decide what that is,
and we're so big you won't have [much of a] choice"). At least now I know why
it's behaving this way. I kept thinking it was 3rd party anti-spam filters!
Thanks again.

Jo

So many people complained that the icon in the system tray would appear even
though they already sorted their mail with rules that Microsoft decided to
change the behavior. Instead of adding a user-friendly option to choose which
behavior to use, Microsoft, as is its wont, made it a forced change for
everyone so that rules run before the process that posts the new message icon
instead of after.


While the rule can display a desktop notification, as you observe (and play a
sound as well or instead), you can't make it display the new messages
envelope. The same things happens for Junk E-mail.