Kill the messanger?

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Bob Newman

All of a sudden every time I log onto the internet (dialup) MS-Messenger
wants to do it's thing (which it never did before). How do I kill it? When
I chose exit it says it will still keep running in case it want to use it!
It is not in the add/remove programs sections. I want the damn thing out of
here!! HELP PLEASE!
 
Bob said:
All of a sudden every time I log onto the internet (dialup)
MS-Messenger wants to do it's thing (which it never did before).
How do I kill it? When I chose exit it says it will still keep
running in case it want to use it! It is not in the add/remove
programs sections. I want the damn thing out of here!! HELP PLEASE!
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See here:
http://www.itc.virginia.edu/desktop/docs/messagepopup/
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Venkatesh,

I believe you may have misread.


Bob,

Microsoft or MSN Messenger? They are two different products. Instead of
worrying about getting rid of it at first, let's just stop it from coming
up.

Try this:
1.. In the Messenger main window, click the Tools menu, click Options, and
then click the General tab.
2.. Clear the Automatically run Messenger when I log on to Windows check
box.
Now - after you do that - see if it stops coming up. If not, let's remove
it - sure.

Messenger does not appear from the Add/Remove Programs applet in the Control
Panel.

In order for it to show up there, you must first edit the file named
sysoc.inf. This file can be found in a folder named INF, which is a
subfolder of the Windows folder (or in some cases the winnt folder,
depending on how your OS was installed).

You can open that file in notepad. Look for the following line:
msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,hide,7
and remove the word "hide" while leaving the commas on place. Close and save
the file, and then open the Add/Remove Programs applet in the Control Panel,
so that you can remove it like any other program.

You also may have to click on "Add/Remove Windows Components" inside of
"Add/Remove Programs".
 
Pardon me, I didn't realize there was a difference. We are talking Windows
Messenger. What is the difference between the 2 anyway?

Bob
 
Bob said:
All of a sudden every time I log onto the internet (dialup)
MS-Messenger wants to do it's thing (which it never did before).
How do I kill it? When I chose exit it says it will still keep
running in case it want to use it! It is not in the add/remove
programs sections. I want the damn thing out of here!! HELP
PLEASE!
Click to expand...
See here:
http://www.itc.virginia.edu/desktop/docs/messagepopup/
Click to expand...


Shenan said:
Venkatesh,

I believe you may have misread.

Bob,

Microsoft or MSN Messenger? They are two different products.
Instead of worrying about getting rid of it at first, let's just
stop it from coming up.

Try this:
1.. In the Messenger main window, click the Tools menu, click
Options, and then click the General tab.
2.. Clear the Automatically run Messenger when I log on to Windows
check box.
Now - after you do that - see if it stops coming up. If not, let's
remove it - sure.

Messenger does not appear from the Add/Remove Programs applet in the
Control Panel.

In order for it to show up there, you must first edit the file named
sysoc.inf. This file can be found in a folder named INF, which is a
subfolder of the Windows folder (or in some cases the winnt folder,
depending on how your OS was installed).

You can open that file in notepad. Look for the following line:
msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,hide,7
and remove the word "hide" while leaving the commas on place. Close
and save the file, and then open the Add/Remove Programs applet in
the Control Panel, so that you can remove it like any other program.

You also may have to click on "Add/Remove Windows Components" inside
of "Add/Remove Programs".
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Bob said:
Pardon me, I didn't realize there was a difference. We are talking
Windows Messenger. What is the difference between the 2 anyway?
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Even I may have spoken incorrectly, as there are really three things people
confuse.

There is the "Messenger Service".
There is the "Windows Messenger".
There is the "MSN Messenger".

The differences?
The "Messenger Service" is a service built into Windows NT, 2000, XP, 2003
machines that sends (supposed to be) system messages. If you still have
yours going, try it out like this:

Open a command prompt and type in the following line:

net send 127.0.0.1 Hello World

In a few seconds you should see what the Messenger Service does.

The Windows Messenger is one of the little blue guys that can sit near your
clock. He's the older one. His features are limited, but he does allow for
communication between people on the Internet. I believe he was stopped
around version 4.7.

The MSN Messenger is the son of (in my mind) Windows Messenger. He's
another little blue guy near the clock, except he has a little butterfly
near him. He has more features, but strangely, still relies on his dad for
some features to function correctly.
 
I tried your link & it goes to a different site but the same instructions.
Again, messenger is disabled but it still keeps asking me to download the
new version. Any ideas.

Bob
 
Bob said:
I tried your link & it goes to a different site but the same
instructions. Again, messenger is disabled but it still keeps asking
me to download the new version. Any ideas.
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Somehow you are still confusing the three messengers.

The one that is telling you there is a new version is undoubtedly Windows
Messenger. It's an annoying snot-nosed brat of an application. The
Messenger Service is not likely the one telling you anything. And unless
you installed MSN Messenger, it is definitely not telling you anything.

Easiest solution?

Go here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/messenger/

Download and install it. When it is done installing and opens - go to
TOOLS -> Options -> Preferences and uncheck everything. Click OK. Close
the Window. Right-click on the little blue dude near the clock (if there)
and exit.

Then, go to this directory:

C:\Program Files\Messenger

Erase everything EXCEPT "msmsgs.exe".
What that does is fool the checker into thinking you really have this
application and it allows the MSN Messenger (if you use it) to still access
the functions it needs (I believe.) It should silence your demon.

NOW - you want to get rid of it even further?

Disable it in Outlook (adjust the 10.0 directory as needed for your office
version..)
http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/1266/

Remove Windows Messenger from Internet Explorer
http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/1049/

Remove Windows Messenger from Outlook Express
http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/989/

Perhaps after all that, your computer will be silent once more.
 
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