Kerio 4.0.7 released

[Mel]

http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html

 

[Lee Marsh]

"Mel" a émis l'idée suivante :

http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html

Thanks for the news, I've been waiting for this one!

 

[Rob]

http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html

Is the Freeware version crippled in any way?

Rob

 

[Lee Marsh]

Après mure réflexion, "Rob" a écrit :

Is the Freeware version crippled in any way?

Rob

I believe when it expires the web filtering is disabled and it will no
longer work on server OSes - Win 2k Server / Win2k3 Server.

 

[Dennis Roark]

"Mel" a émis l'idée suivante :

Thanks for the news, I've been waiting for this one!

What changes or new features make it a good upgrade from the previous
version 2.1.5?

--
Dennis Roark

(e-mail address removed)
Starting Points:
http://sio.midco.net/denro/www

 

[dkg_ctc]

Après mure réflexion, "Rob" a écrit :


I believe when it expires the web filtering is disabled and it
will no longer work on server OSes - Win 2k Server / Win2k3
Server.

And if you have internet connection sharing enabled, it will not run
on the gateway machine after thirty days (or rather, it will run, but
ICS will no longer work).

 

[Mathew]

I use Sygate. Is there much of a difference? Which is better or best?

 

[John Corliss]

Après mure réflexion, "Rob" a écrit :


I believe when it expires the web filtering is disabled and it will no
longer work on server OSes - Win 2k Server / Win2k3 Server.

Thanks for posting this. I'm going to stick with the older version
(2.1.5). At some point, I'll have to find a firewall that doesn't time
out and-or turn into crippleware.

 

[Thip]

| http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html

Just my opinion, but I didn't like it and went back to 2.1.5. It was
*really* instrusive, and I could not find a way to disable loading on
startup (probably didn't look hard enough). I use batch files to start and
end everything connected with Internet activity (56K dialup), and I don't
like having anything running unnecessarily.

 

[Rob]

I use Sygate. Is there much of a difference? Which is better or
best?

I used to use Sygate but it was too slow on my old PII machine. Kerio
v2.1.5 ran a lot faster. I cannot comment on the new v4.0.7.

IMHO, both Sygate and Kerio are excellent firewalls.

Rob

 

[Mel]

Is the Freeware version crippled in any way?

Rob

I haven't tested it much, but new features include

Application security
Kerio Personal Firewall can block applications from launching, being
modified or starting other applications.

Apparently it will also report changes to phone numbers, but only for VPN
Dial-up connections.
It also seems to have better logging of "intrusions"

for details see -
http://www.kerio.com/kpf_home.html


(Possible issues I've notice so far - my dun launches on each boot. There
doesn't appear
to be a built in option to not load kerio at start-up)

From the help file -

"Freeware version

Two versions of Kerio Personal Firewall are available: full (paid) and
freeware (free of charge).

The same installation package is used for both version. After installation
the product behaves as a 30-days trial version (full version limited by
time). If the product is not registered by the expiration date, it becomes
freeware. The product becomes a full version after license purchase and
product registration (for detailed information refer to chapter
"Registration").

Freeware versions are limited by the following restrictions:

It is available for personal and/or non-commercial use only.

Web content filtering, including its logs and statistics, is not available
(see chapter Chapter ).

It cannot be used at Internet Gateways (refer to chapter "Preferences")

Logs cannot be sent to Syslog server (details in chapter"Log Options").

Configuration cannot be protected by a password and it is not possible to
access and administer the firewall remotely.

It cannot be used on server type operating systems, such as Windows NT
Server, Windows 2000 Server and Windows Server 2003. If the trial version
was installed on any of these systems, the Personal Firewall Engine service
will be disabled by the expiration date and it will not be able to restore
it."

 

[Richard Steven Hack]

| http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html

Just my opinion, but I didn't like it and went back to 2.1.5. It was
*really* instrusive, and I could not find a way to disable loading on
startup (probably didn't look hard enough). I use batch files to start and
end everything connected with Internet activity (56K dialup), and I don't
like having anything running unnecessarily.

Did you look on the Miscellaneous tab on the Firewall Administration
menu for the checkbox that says "Start Firewall Engine Automatically
on Windows Startup? Is that still there?

 

[Mike Henley]

I used to use Sygate but it was too slow on my old PII machine. Kerio
v2.1.5 ran a lot faster. I cannot comment on the new v4.0.7.

IMHO, both Sygate and Kerio are excellent firewalls.

Rob

I use McAfee personal firewall, which i think is not free for everyone
but i get it for free as an offer from my ISP. Does the Kerio freeware
offer me any advantages...

 

[Richard Steven Hack]

Did you look on the Miscellaneous tab on the Firewall Administration
menu for the checkbox that says "Start Firewall Engine Automatically
on Windows Startup? Is that still there?

Well, I just installed it myself, and no it's not there! I guess you
could always run msconfig or some other startup controller and disable
it that way.

 

[Richard Steven Hack]

Well, I just installed it myself, and no it's not there! I guess you
could always run msconfig or some other startup controller and disable
it that way.

Well, I installed it and while it does constantly pop up every time a
program launches another program, eventually I suppose this will stop
- and it does provide a useful security service by doing this.

The main problem I've had with the new version is it seems to be flaky
with my WIndows 98. It crashed while loading on startup, then crashed
again taking down the machine on reboot. I ran the repair function of
the installer and it seems to be okay now - perhaps the download was
slightly corrupted. We'll see.

I'd hate to see Kerio go the way of a lot of software these days -
upgraded to run well on 2000 and XP and not tested at all on 98, so it
becomes no longer useful on 98. Oh, well, once I switch fully to
Linux, that problem will go away, too. As long as you can download
the new kernels and new versions of apps, Linux essentially is never
obsolete, even if Red Hat does do away with the consumer version.

 

[fred ma]

Did you look on the Miscellaneous tab on the Firewall Administration
menu for the checkbox that says "Start Firewall Engine Automatically
on Windows Startup? Is that still there?

Hi, folks,

I encountered the opposite problem. I was helping someone
with securing her Win98 system (I'm use to Win2K). My
own system has Kerio 2.xx (can't check, it's at home), but
I downloaded the current Kerio 4.0.7 personal firewall for
her. Hey, newer is better, I thought, and mine must be
horribly out of date. Unfortunately, the firewall does
not start up when the system is booted. I have to navigate
to the kerio folder and launch it myself (she lives half
an hour drive away, but from what I recall, it is kpfss.exe).
Only then does the blue shield appear on the sytem tray.
Prior to that, the task manager shows no kerio-looking
processes, and no popups warn me about web accesses.

That's odd, I thought, but no matter, not when I can schedule
its launch at system bootup. So I created a scheduled task
for it. However, there seems to be a conflict. During
bootup, I get a popup warning that the engine is already running.
Still no blue shield on the system tray, however. And no
kerio-looking processes in the task manager. And no warnings
about web accesses. From what I recall of the troubleshooting,
if I tried to manually launch the firewall at that point, I also
get the warning that the server is running. However, the blue
shield then appears on the system tray. From that point forward,
there are warnings of web accesses.

For the time being, I've asked her to manually launch the firewall
after system bootup every time. I'm hoping there's a better way.
I've already perused the manual and searched for such a problem on
the web and newgroups. Thanks if anyone can either suggest a
solution, or confirm that the problem is not just in this
particular setup.

Fred

 

[Semolina Pilchard]

Apparently it will also report changes to phone numbers, but only for VPN
Dial-up connections.
It also seems to have better logging of "intrusions"

I tried the new version for several days. I found it more intrusive
than I need. I suppose that isn't truly a cause for complaint; the
program's just doing what it's designed to do. Just a personal
preference, really.

The "reporting of changes to phone numbers" feature is a problem,
though. I have three dial-up accounts, one with several alternative
numbers. Kerio began mistakenly reporting one dial-up number as a
changed version of another. It wasn't even the alternatives that
caused the alert. The number for one service was reported as a
changed version of the number for another. There's something not quite
right there.

I uninstalled 4.0.7 and went back to 2.1.5.

 

[Richard Steven Hack]

I tried the new version for several days. I found it more intrusive
than I need. I suppose that isn't truly a cause for complaint; the
program's just doing what it's designed to do. Just a personal
preference, really.

The "reporting of changes to phone numbers" feature is a problem,
though. I have three dial-up accounts, one with several alternative
numbers. Kerio began mistakenly reporting one dial-up number as a
changed version of another. It wasn't even the alternatives that
caused the alert. The number for one service was reported as a
changed version of the number for another. There's something not quite
right there.

I uninstalled 4.0.7 and went back to 2.1.5.

So have I now. This thing crashed on me on bootup several times and
I'm afraid Kerio has ruined the product - it just isn't stable. So
it's back to 2.1.5.

<sigh> When will software company management stop ruining perfectly
good products (or at least adequate products - almost nothing in
software is "perfect" anything)?

The industry is becoming totally pathetic. NOTHING works!

 

[Alex Oren]

I used to use Sygate but it was too slow on my old PII machine. Kerio
v2.1.5 ran a lot faster. I cannot comment on the new v4.0.7.

IMHO, both Sygate and Kerio are excellent firewalls.

How does Agnitum Outpost (versions 1 and 2) compare to Kerio?

I'm replacing AtGuard on an aging machine (got problems with
Win2K+SP4) and would like something that is not overly resource hungry
(*cough* Zone Alarm *cough*).

 

[Rob]

How does Agnitum Outpost (versions 1 and 2) compare to Kerio?

I'm replacing AtGuard on an aging machine (got problems with
Win2K+SP4) and would like something that is not overly resource hungry
(*cough* Zone Alarm *cough*).

Well Outpost was not that bad. It was fairly fast compared to ZoneAlarm.
But it was buggy.
Pity. I liked some of the built in features. I got fed up and uninstalled
it.

I like Kerio. Kerio was definitely the fastest firewall that I have tested
on my old PII.

I also use Proxomitron to filter web content, block pop ups etc. Kerio and
Proxomitron are a great combination. Highly recommended!

Rob