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if i leave my computer on all night will it fix its self? someone here siad
it would but i wont 2 b sure. what if hacker gets in how i stop them?
 
if i leave my computer on all night will it fix its self? someone
here siad it would but i wont 2 b sure. what if hacker gets in how i
stop them?

A hacker can get in anytime your computer is up.
VISTA runs system check in the background and repairs things it knows
are wrong.
 
Hi,

No, it wouldn't fix itself. What it will do is create restore points, index
new files, and defrag. Plus, if your programs are set correctly, they will
scan for and remove any malware.

Would a hacker get in? It wouldn't be any different than when you are
actively using the machine. If you are firewalled and using other proper
security measures, then the risk of getting cracked is rather minimal.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
 
AB said:
if i leave my computer on all night will it fix its self? someone here
siad it would but i wont 2 b sure. what if hacker gets in how i stop them?
It will heal itself and you also. You will have clear skin, eternal life and
complete fulfillment! And if you call now you will enter republican nirvana.
No need to worry about hackers. AlexB has you protected with Spybot S&D. You
only need to BELIEVE! Join the cult of AlexB and enjoy true enlightenment
for eternity! Yeah! Lay his hands upon your forehead. YOU ARE HEALED!!!
 
HALLELUJAH!
Where is the racist, BOOFHEAD Guru, AlexB; with his all round, profound
STUPIDITY?
 
It's also best leave you wireless router or access point "wide open", this
way it won't interfere with any updates from Microsoft.

That's what AlexB told me
 
AB said:
if i leave my computer on all night will it fix its self? someone here
siad it would but i wont 2 b sure. what if hacker gets in how i stop them?


That's just some of AlexB's voodoo bullshyte.

ss.
 
I keep my four Vistas on overnight al the time. There are certain things MS
servers must do to maintain your computer. Specifically, updates are usually
scheduled for 2 AM ad DEFAULT.

Defragmenting is performed during the hours when you are not actively using
the computer.

If you turn your machine on only when you need it you will be surprised that
as you turned it on the disks will run like crazy and the CPU usage fill be
above background normal as if the machine runs some chores. It all can be
done during night hours.

MS checks Vista installations when servers are not too busy and if your
system for instance lacks some drivers SP1 installation will be delayed
until those are found or made available by manufacturers.

The infestation by malware occurs mostly when you roam the web and since
your computer is not roaming there is NO additional risk, NONE. If your
machine is already infested with Trojans some of which have been developed
by individuals who try to ridicule me here then of course, it is too late to
worry but still perhaps some of the malware may be removed although the
chances for this are slim.

Leaving machines with Vista OS is in fact MS recommendation, not mine. the
idiots who are trying to ridicule me on the issue either have malicious
intent, ulterior motives or are simply stupid.

Leave your machine open overnight. I have had a number of experiences before
my Vistas stabilized when problems disappeared overnight and boot time got
shorter, etc.

Here is in addition my recommendations as to how handle malware with MS
software almost exclusively. this is what I do. No malware so far have been
detected.

All those so called troll hate MS, hate Vista, they are here to steer
trouble and create confusion. No Pasaran!

************
My policy is not to use any 3-rd party anti-malware except Spybot S&D.
Windows Vista offers sufficient protection against malicious software
writers some of them I am sure watch this forum very carefully.

Download Microsoft Windows Baseline Security Analyzer. It is Beta 2.1 for
Vista and I think it is safe to download. Run it.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...AF-9DBE-4DCE-889E-ECF997EB18E9&displaylang=en>

It will give you all your vulnerabilities, especially in your firewall
settings. You should read the report and if it suggests any changes, you
should consider them.
Your Windows firewall setting will be analyzed.

Download Microsoft® Windows® Malicious Software Removal Tool (KB890830). It
will want to run upon install. Choose the FULL scan although it may give you
a threatening message that it might take a few hours. It will scan your
entire computer in about half an hour or less if you do not have a lot of
stuff in it.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e0-e72d-4f54-9ab3-75b8eb148356&displaylang=en>

Some reassuring information: Malicious Software Removal Tool
<http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx>
The Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool helps remove specific,
prevalent malicious software from computers that are running Windows Vista,
Windows Server 2003, Windows XP, or Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890830

You can also go to Protection Center (Microsoft)
<http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/howsafe.htm?s_cid=mscom_msrt>
and click "Protection Scan." There will be a dropdown menu and a button:
"Launch Full Scan or Vista." You can do it if you wish.

Download and install Spybot Search & Destroy, a great piece of software
which is free for individuals but corporations pay fees. You may be asked
for donations but it is up to you. It is very up to date and every week you
will have to download new updates, sometimes even more often. You should
check for updates every time you run it. It will give you all su*kers
leached into your registry and ask you if you wanted to remove them. Many of
them have masqueraded themselves under MS Windows names like
Windows.something. Do not hesitate to kill them all. You can trust SB S&D.

http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html
http://www.spybot.info/en/spybotsd/index.html

It also allows you to IMMUNIZE your system. It means that when you go to a
website and they try to download some kind of a Trojan to you SB S&D will
either kill it silently, or ask you if you want to do it or will kill it and
give you a notice. It is better to let it kill them all in silence.

Exerpts from SB S&D website

<quote starts>
Spybot - Search & Destroy detects and removes spyware, a relatively new
kind of threat not yet covered by common anti-virus applications. Spyware
silently tracks your surfing behaviour to create a marketing profile for you
that is transmitted without your knowledge to the compilers and sold to
advertising companies. If you see new toolbars in your Internet Explorer
that you haven't intentionally installed, if your browser crashes
inexplicably, or if your home page has been "hijacked" (or changed without
your knowledge), your computer is most probably infected with spyware. Even
if you don't see the symptoms, your computer may be infected, because more
and more spyware is emerging. Spybot-S&D is free, so there's no harm giving
it a try to see if something has invaded your computer.

To see a list of threats Spybot-S&D can remove, in the navigation bar at the
left click on Support --> Threats. For an introduction to Spybot-S&D, please
read the tutorial. If you fear incompatibility with other software you are
now using, although we can assure you that there is no danger you can review
our compatibility overview which lists some software whose compatibility has
been analyzed.

Spybot-S&D can also clean usage tracks, an interesting function if you share
your computer with other users and don't want them to see what you have been
working on. And for professional users, Spybot-S&D allows you to fix some
registry inconsistencies and extended reports. A list of all the
application's features is also available.
<End of quote>

After you installed SB S&D Windows IE will *****integrate***** it into its
Tools Menu. In the right upper corner of IE click Tools and you will see
Spybot Search And destroy configuration item. Click on it and it will give
you options to deal with the threats that are being downloaded.


Listen to Mark Russinovich's (MS) webcast: Advanced Malware Cleaning

<http://www.microsoft.com/emea/spotlight/sessionh.aspx?videoid=359>

Downloading any 3-rd party "free" anti-spyware program (with teh exception
SB S&D) is an invitation for a disaster.

The AV (antivirus industry) is on the way to the cemetery:
The slow death of AV technology:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/08/death_of_av/
Vista did it in.
Last note: it has been suggested around here by some unscrupulous trolls
that the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT) and SB S&D do not
clean the registry. MSRT and SB S&D work on different principles. MSRT in
full mode reads RAM memory and detects patterns in the files that match
known viruses and other malware configuraions. This is why it takes so long
to run. If malicious code is detected it is also quite likely that it has a
representation in the registry. The only way to remove a particular piece of
malware is to CLEAN the registry off of this key.
SB S&D works by going thru the registry and locating known names that match
its database of malicious software. After all culprits are found the user is
asked if he/she want to remove the malicious software. If you say OK, then
the registry IS CLEANED of this set of malicious execs. The execs themselves
are killed in the respective folders.
In this sense both tools do CLEAN the registry. They do not do any
"housekeeping" which is absolutely superfluous and unnecessary. It is NOT
recommended by MS and most of the experienced users as well.

*******************************
Additional security measure
To prevent unauthorized breaks into your computer, go to Computer
management, and disable Disable "Internet Guest Account." Make sure "Guest"
account is disabled. It should be disabled by default.
 
AlexB said:
I keep my four Vistas on overnight al the time. There are certain
things MS servers must do to maintain your computer. Specifically,
updates are usually scheduled for 2 AM ad DEFAULT.

Defragmenting is performed during the hours when you are not actively
using the computer.

If you turn your machine on only when you need it you will be
surprised that as you turned it on the disks will run like crazy and
the CPU usage fill be above background normal as if the machine runs
some chores. It all can be done during night hours.

MS checks Vista installations when servers are not too busy and if
your system for instance lacks some drivers SP1 installation will be
delayed until those are found or made available by manufacturers.

The infestation by malware occurs mostly when you roam the web and
since your computer is not roaming there is NO additional risk, NONE.
If your machine is already infested with Trojans some of which have
been developed by individuals who try to ridicule me here then of
course, it is too late to worry but still perhaps some of the malware
may be removed although the chances for this are slim.

Leaving machines with Vista OS is in fact MS recommendation, not
mine. the idiots who are trying to ridicule me on the issue either
have malicious intent, ulterior motives or are simply stupid.

Leave your machine open overnight. I have had a number of experiences
before my Vistas stabilized when problems disappeared overnight and
boot time got shorter, etc.

Here is in addition my recommendations as to how handle malware with
MS software almost exclusively. this is what I do. No malware so far
have been detected.

All those so called troll hate MS, hate Vista, they are here to steer
trouble and create confusion. No Pasaran!

************
My policy is not to use any 3-rd party anti-malware except Spybot S&D.
Windows Vista offers sufficient protection against malicious software
writers some of them I am sure watch this forum very carefully.

Download Microsoft Windows Baseline Security Analyzer. It is Beta 2.1
for Vista and I think it is safe to download. Run it.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...AF-9DBE-4DCE-889E-ECF997EB18E9&displaylang=en>

It will give you all your vulnerabilities, especially in your firewall
settings. You should read the report and if it suggests any changes,
you should consider them.
Your Windows firewall setting will be analyzed.

Download Microsoft® Windows® Malicious Software Removal Tool
(KB890830). It will want to run upon install. Choose the FULL scan
although it may give you a threatening message that it might take a
few hours. It will scan your entire computer in about half an hour or
less if you do not have a lot of stuff in it.

<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...e0-e72d-4f54-9ab3-75b8eb148356&displaylang=en>

Some reassuring information: Malicious Software Removal Tool
<http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx>
The Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool helps remove
specific, prevalent malicious software from computers that are
running Windows Vista, Windows Server 2003, Windows XP, or Windows
2000 http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=890830

You can also go to Protection Center (Microsoft)
<http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/center/howsafe.htm?s_cid=mscom_msrt>
and click "Protection Scan." There will be a dropdown menu and a
button: "Launch Full Scan or Vista." You can do it if you wish.

Download and install Spybot Search & Destroy, a great piece of
software which is free for individuals but corporations pay fees. You
may be asked for donations but it is up to you. It is very up to date
and every week you will have to download new updates, sometimes even
more often. You should check for updates every time you run it. It
will give you all su*kers leached into your registry and ask you if
you wanted to remove them. Many of them have masqueraded themselves
under MS Windows names like Windows.something. Do not hesitate to
kill them all. You can trust SB S&D.
http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html
http://www.spybot.info/en/spybotsd/index.html

It also allows you to IMMUNIZE your system. It means that when you go
to a website and they try to download some kind of a Trojan to you SB
S&D will either kill it silently, or ask you if you want to do it or
will kill it and give you a notice. It is better to let it kill them
all in silence.
Exerpts from SB S&D website

<quote starts>
Spybot - Search & Destroy detects and removes spyware, a relatively
new kind of threat not yet covered by common anti-virus applications.
Spyware silently tracks your surfing behaviour to create a marketing
profile for you that is transmitted without your knowledge to the
compilers and sold to advertising companies. If you see new toolbars
in your Internet Explorer that you haven't intentionally installed,
if your browser crashes inexplicably, or if your home page has been
"hijacked" (or changed without your knowledge), your computer is most
probably infected with spyware. Even if you don't see the symptoms,
your computer may be infected, because more and more spyware is
emerging. Spybot-S&D is free, so there's no harm giving it a try to
see if something has invaded your computer.
To see a list of threats Spybot-S&D can remove, in the navigation bar
at the left click on Support --> Threats. For an introduction to
Spybot-S&D, please read the tutorial. If you fear incompatibility
with other software you are now using, although we can assure you
that there is no danger you can review our compatibility overview
which lists some software whose compatibility has been analyzed.

Spybot-S&D can also clean usage tracks, an interesting function if
you share your computer with other users and don't want them to see
what you have been working on. And for professional users, Spybot-S&D
allows you to fix some registry inconsistencies and extended reports.
A list of all the application's features is also available.
<End of quote>

After you installed SB S&D Windows IE will *****integrate***** it
into its Tools Menu. In the right upper corner of IE click Tools and
you will see Spybot Search And destroy configuration item. Click on
it and it will give you options to deal with the threats that are
being downloaded.

Listen to Mark Russinovich's (MS) webcast: Advanced Malware Cleaning

<http://www.microsoft.com/emea/spotlight/sessionh.aspx?videoid=359>

Downloading any 3-rd party "free" anti-spyware program (with teh
exception SB S&D) is an invitation for a disaster.

The AV (antivirus industry) is on the way to the cemetery:
The slow death of AV technology:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/08/death_of_av/
Vista did it in.
Last note: it has been suggested around here by some unscrupulous
trolls that the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT) and
SB S&D do not clean the registry. MSRT and SB S&D work on different
principles. MSRT in full mode reads RAM memory and detects patterns
in the files that match known viruses and other malware
configuraions. This is why it takes so long to run. If malicious code
is detected it is also quite likely that it has a representation in
the registry. The only way to remove a particular piece of malware is
to CLEAN the registry off of this key. SB S&D works by going thru the
registry and locating known names that
match its database of malicious software. After all culprits are
found the user is asked if he/she want to remove the malicious
software. If you say OK, then the registry IS CLEANED of this set of
malicious execs. The execs themselves are killed in the respective
folders. In this sense both tools do CLEAN the registry. They do not do
any
"housekeeping" which is absolutely superfluous and unnecessary. It is
NOT recommended by MS and most of the experienced users as well.


BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
Like anyone would care what you recommend. You have no respect here and your
reputation is becoming well known to all as a moron who has to keep
reinstalling his OS because he hasn't a clue.
Your pile of insane cut and paste drivel just gets longer and longer, and
more and more ridiculous; but keep it up and keep adding more and more to
it because then it will become even more obvious to the newbies who wander
in here that you are really mentally unstable and your advice should be
ignored.
 
AB said:
if i leave my computer on all night will it fix its self? someone here
siad it would but i wont 2 b sure. what if hacker gets in how i stop them?

Yes it will. You need to leave tools next to the computer so the computer
can remove the side panels and fix what is wrong. I suggest a screwdriver
and a hammer. Also make sure to leave WD40 and some duct tape.

In the morning you will have much happier computer.
 
SG said:
I just created a sub folder under Local Folders and named it "Laughter for
the Day". Your reply is a keeper. :>)
Thanks, SG
AlexB provides an unlimited amount of material for laughs.
 
AB said:
if i leave my computer on all night will it fix its self?


How could it? Magic? No little elves or pixies are going to visit
your home in the night to fix your computer; that's a very old fairy tale.





--

Bruce Chambers

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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
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