Is SP4 stable/reliable/compatible ?

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Jimmy

I have a friend with a small business and network who is on SP2. I
was about to recommend that he upgrade to SP4 but I've seen a few
posts indicating problems with SP4 and applications - and he uses
a ton of MS and other business applications.

Should I point him to SP3 instead ? Reliability and security is what
he needs and I just need to get him up to date on the patches. I'd
prefer to go SP4 & patch instead of SP3 and (lots of) patches,
but I'm a little concerned about SP4.

Thanks,
J
 
Well I would wait on SP4. There is an HTML Help problem that I believe everyone has that has SP4. There is no fix that I have seen that works.
 
George said:
Well I would wait on SP4. There is an HTML Help problem that I believe everyone has that has SP4. There is no fix that I have seen that works.
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Hi

Unregistering and then registering hhctrl.ocx works for me and others to solve the problem, alternatively deleting "Compatibility Flags" under
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{ADB880A6-D8FF-11CF-9377-00AA003B7A11}]

e.g.

http://groups.google.com/[email protected]

http://groups.google.com/[email protected]
 
Hi Torgeir:

I wish those had worked for me but neither did. The unregister\registering of hhctrl.ocx removed the compatibility flag (maybe) altogether so that one I cannot do. I had this:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility\{ADB880A6-D8FF-11CF-9377-00AA003B7A11}]
"AlternateCLSID"="{41B23C28-488E-4E5C-ACE2-BB0BBABE99E8}"

I did remove this value but when I re-registered hhctrl.ocx I got this back. I have no compatibility flag value. And have never seen one in here.

This one has me stumped. I seem to have all that you mentioned in the registry but still have the issue. I do have a system that is at SP4 has no other applications so I'll go over to that and see what I can see.

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George Hester
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Torgeir Bakken (MVP) said:
George said:
Well I would wait on SP4. There is an HTML Help problem that I believe everyone has that has SP4. There is no fix that I have seen that works.
Click to expand...

Hi

Unregistering and then registering hhctrl.ocx works for me and others to solve the problem, alternatively deleting "Compatibility Flags" under
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{ADB880A6-D8FF-11CF-9377-00AA003B7A11}]

e.g.

http://groups.google.com/[email protected]

http://groups.google.com/[email protected]
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Hi Torgeir:

I wish those had worked for me but neither did.
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What about other applicaiton issues ? I've seen some posts from folks
who had MS-Office problems after installing SP4, backing down to
SP3 apparently fixed the problems.

Any comments ?

Thanks,
 
No Office problems that I can tell. I have Office XP which is at SP2. I have yet to go over to my other install of Windows 2000 SP4. So as of yet I haven't determined that has the issue. If it does I'll try these suggestions and see if that fixes it. If it does then I'd say this install of Windows 2000 SP4 is bum. Funny thing is this issue makes my Help almost totally worthless which I know was fine until the SP4 install. I'll tell you one thing in my Server it's not getting SP4 that's for sure.
 
George Hester wrote in
Hi Torgeir:

I wish those had worked for me but neither did. The
unregister\registering of hhctrl.ocx removed the compatibility
flag (maybe) altogether so that one I cannot do. I had this:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{ADB880A6-D8FF-11CF-9377-00AA003B7A11}]
"AlternateCLSID"="{41B23C28-488E-4E5C-ACE2-BB0BBABE99E8}"

I did remove this value but when I re-registered hhctrl.ocx I got
this back. I have no compatibility flag value. And have never
seen one in here.

This one has me stumped. I seem to have all that you mentioned in
the registry but still have the issue. I do have a system that is
at SP4 has no other applications so I'll go over to that and see
what I can see.
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Did you also try the
delete hh.dat in your profile's
x:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Microsoft\HTML Help\
location?

I have the same "AlternateCLSID" an no "Compatibility" and HTML
Help is working here FWIW.
 
I saw that earlier Mark V. And did think about doing it. But what that does is remove all favorites that have been saved in chm files. All of them. So I'm gonna wait and see if there is something I can gander from my other op sys and see if I can do anything. I may have to do that but I really hate losing all my favorites. Oh well if it's necessary...crap

--
George Hester
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Mark V said:
George Hester wrote in
Hi Torgeir:

I wish those had worked for me but neither did. The
unregister\registering of hhctrl.ocx removed the compatibility
flag (maybe) altogether so that one I cannot do. I had this:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{ADB880A6-D8FF-11CF-9377-00AA003B7A11}]
"AlternateCLSID"="{41B23C28-488E-4E5C-ACE2-BB0BBABE99E8}"

I did remove this value but when I re-registered hhctrl.ocx I got
this back. I have no compatibility flag value. And have never
seen one in here.

This one has me stumped. I seem to have all that you mentioned in
the registry but still have the issue. I do have a system that is
at SP4 has no other applications so I'll go over to that and see
what I can see.
Click to expand...

Did you also try the
delete hh.dat in your profile's
x:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Microsoft\HTML Help\
location?

I have the same "AlternateCLSID" an no "Compatibility" and HTML
Help is working here FWIW.
Click to expand...
 
George Hester wrote in
I saw that earlier Mark V. And did think about doing it. But
what that does is remove all favorites that have been saved in chm
files. All of them. So I'm gonna wait and see if there is
something I can gander from my other op sys and see if I can do
anything. I may have to do that but I really hate losing all my
favorites. Oh well if it's necessary...crap
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Well you could just rename it and see.... ;-)
 
Sometime I don't know how they do it, but there are some very bright folks in
here. But that's what all this about. Sometime may not know everything needed or
the original posting person may not know how to completely give all information.
Hope this is not just noise by me.
 
in my experience sp4 has been tooooo much of a headach to further bother
with it .. I find it much easier to use sp3 and download the bundle of
updates and security patches and critical watevers ..... if you want to
"just" make your customers server safe from the new vulnerabilitys from the
blast and it's variants you could simply disable DCOM go to gibson research
and you will find many decent tools for free to test security etc and his
dfecombobulator makes it easy 2 disable dcom

good luck
 
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