Is it me or this thing needs a service pack pronto.

[Frank Rizzo]

I am not able to grok, how after so many betas, CTPs, community
editions, flawless demos at MSDN shows, ms employees salivating at their
mouth over its goodness, etc... VS2005 can suck so hard. Is it just me,
or is VS2005 simply filled to the brink with all kinds of bugs? It's
integration with souce control simply sucks. I've seen instances where
it wants to add .PDB files to source control. And the file-based web
projects (web sites and web services) is simply an abberation. Who's
idea was it to drop a regular project type and go exclusively with the
file-based approach? All normal projects store their refs in the
..csproj file. Not file-based ones, they store them in the .sln file.
In a team environment, file-based projects are simply unworkable. God
forbid, someone has a test file in the directory. If you are not
careful, vs2005 will simply check the file into source control, thus
breaking everybody's build.

The web-based stuff is not the only problem. The Winforms. The
design-time experience gives a new meaning to the word "slow". Simply
try and drop a simple control onto a new form. Then click on it.
VS2005 simply hangs for a few seconds while it comes to its senses. And
god help you if you dropped a 3rd party grid on the form. Another cool
trick is to try and write code while your form is opened in another tab.

Guys, no offense, nothing personal and with a lot of respect to the job
before you, but while you still have customers, please, put out a
service pack and salvage your reputation built on great tools like
vs2003, vb1-vb6, vs6, etc...

Regards

 

[Guest]

Is it just me

Yep

 

[Ian Semmel]

Well, it might be me too.

I am just learning C# (on Visual C# express) but I have managed to blow VS up a
couple of times. Message boxes with things like '80049999' come up.

I find that the documentation is too interspersed and find it hard to get to the
basis of a lot of things. The wizards are fine if you are working on the
Northwinds database, but when you go to actually do a real app, things get a bit
harder. Was that Database Exploerer or the Data Sources window I wanted Should
I use a DataAdapter or a Table Adapter ?

I am in early days. What is the accepted way of doing things ? Find out how the
wizards do it then chuck all that away and write your own ?

Soldier on I guess

 

[Otis Mukinfus]

I am not able to grok, how after so many betas, CTPs, community
editions, flawless demos at MSDN shows, ms employees salivating at their
mouth over its goodness, etc... VS2005 can suck so hard. Is it just me,
or is VS2005 simply filled to the brink with all kinds of bugs? It's
integration with souce control simply sucks. I've seen instances where
it wants to add .PDB files to source control. And the file-based web
projects (web sites and web services) is simply an abberation. Who's
idea was it to drop a regular project type and go exclusively with the
file-based approach? All normal projects store their refs in the
.csproj file. Not file-based ones, they store them in the .sln file.
In a team environment, file-based projects are simply unworkable. God
forbid, someone has a test file in the directory. If you are not
careful, vs2005 will simply check the file into source control, thus
breaking everybody's build.

The web-based stuff is not the only problem. The Winforms. The
design-time experience gives a new meaning to the word "slow". Simply
try and drop a simple control onto a new form. Then click on it.
VS2005 simply hangs for a few seconds while it comes to its senses. And
god help you if you dropped a 3rd party grid on the form. Another cool
trick is to try and write code while your form is opened in another tab.

Guys, no offense, nothing personal and with a lot of respect to the job
before you, but while you still have customers, please, put out a
service pack and salvage your reputation built on great tools like
vs2003, vb1-vb6, vs6, etc...

Regards

I think we've read this rant from you before. I think it's you.

Otis Mukinfus
http://www.arltex.com
http://www.tomchilders.com

 

[Frank Rizzo]

I think we've read this rant from you before. I think it's you.

Really? Where?