Install SP2 on alternate drive?

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I have XP and the Office suite installed on my 4GB C: drive. I managed
to free up about 1.1GB on that drive. I have a D: drive in the machine
also with about 80GB free. I want to install SP2, and the reqm'ts specify
1.8GB of free space needed on the hard drive. Can I install SP2 on the D:
drive
with the rest of XP on the C: drive?
 
Cacher said:
I have XP and the Office suite installed on my 4GB C: drive. I
managed
to free up about 1.1GB on that drive. I have a D: drive in the
machine also with about 80GB free. I want to install SP2, and the
reqm'ts specify
1.8GB of free space needed on the hard drive. Can I install SP2 on
the D: drive
with the rest of XP on the C: drive?
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No.
It patches and adds files to the system.. The system is on C.

You should consider getting a larger drive and imaging it to the new drive,
using a third party tool to expand the partitions (C) if it is a partition
or uninstall applications from C and reinstall them onto D.
 
Cacher

Re-install some of your programs onto drive D, and consider moving documents
to that drive also.. SP2 must be installed on C..

I have XP, MS Office 2003 and a whole bunch of other stuff installed on C,
but it doesn't even get close to filling up a 40gb partition.. you must have
a huge amount of other stuff on there..
 
Thanks for your help. Can I add a partition to my (mostly empty) D: drive to
do the image, or does that have to be done at the time the drive is
installed? Can you recommend a tool to do this?

Alt question: Does the SP2 install really need 1.8G during install? I
found another page (can't find it again now) that said that 1.1GB would be
enough.

Thanks.
 
Mike said:
Cacher

Re-install some of your programs onto drive D, and consider moving documents
to that drive also.. SP2 must be installed on C..

I have XP, MS Office 2003 and a whole bunch of other stuff installed on C,
but it doesn't even get close to filling up a 40gb partition.. you must have
a huge amount of other stuff on there..
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That' s what Microsoft motivates the users to, save all their stuff in
their home directory which is in the system partition by default that is
just stupid. I am sure it will be the same with Windows Vista. Same
stupidity like always.
 
Mario said:
That' s what Microsoft motivates the users to, save all their stuff in
their home directory which is in the system partition by default that
is just stupid. I am sure it will be the same with Windows Vista. Same
stupidity like always.
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Most users only have a C drive/system partition..
 
Cacher said:
I have XP and the Office suite installed on my 4GB C: drive. I managed
to free up about 1.1GB on that drive. I have a D: drive in the machine
also with about 80GB free. I want to install SP2, and the reqm'ts specify
1.8GB of free space needed on the hard drive. Can I install SP2 on the D:
drive
with the rest of XP on the C: drive?
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I would get a copy of Acronis in order to change partition
sizes on the fly. Make drive C: 20 GBytes to solve this
problem permanently.
 
Mario Schmidt said:
That' s what Microsoft motivates the users to, save all their stuff in
their home directory which is in the system partition by default that is
just stupid. I am sure it will be the same with Windows Vista. Same
stupidity like always.
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This is indeed the default. Advanced users will demand a
split disk from their supplier: C: for Windows & apps,
D: for data. They will then force "My Documents" to drive D:.
 
Cacher

Forget what I said earlier.. what you really need to do is re-install XP
onto the 80Gb drive.. 4Gb just doesn't cut it.. use a program like Acronis
TrueImage to clone your installation to the larger drive, or if you have the
original installation media, do a clean install of Windows onto the 80..

Do NOT under any circumstances use Maxblast4 to copy from one drive to
another, even if you have a Maxtor drive.. it is without doubt the most
useless utility I have ever had the misfortune to try..
 
Mike,

Why should the OP use TrueImage to clone his installation
when he could resize his partitions within minutes with the
Acronis disk manager, without any re-installation?
 
Pegasus

The OS is sitting on a 4Gb drive presently.. there is no way to resize it to
20Gb.. but there is an 80Gb drive attached to the system that is just ripe
for having an OS installed upon it, hence the use of TrueImage..

OR am I the one that read all of the OP's stuff wrong.. I admitted to making
an error initially in that I read '4' as '40', but I think that I have the
OS pinned to the right drive, regardless of it's capacity.. :-)
 
Mike,

When the OP said "drive" I interpreted it as "drive"
rather than "disk". If it is a drive then Acronis can
resize it on the fly. If it is a disk then it can't.

In other words, I interpret "drive" as a partition with
a drive letter attached. A "disk" to me is a physical
unit with one or several drives on it.

Perhaps the OP means "disk" when he says "drive",
in which case your advice is entirely appropriate.
 
Pegasus said:
When the OP said "drive" I interpreted it as "drive"
rather than "disk". If it is a drive then Acronis can
resize it on the fly. If it is a disk then it can't.

In other words, I interpret "drive" as a partition with
a drive letter attached. A "disk" to me is a physical
unit with one or several drives on it.

Perhaps the OP means "disk" when he says "drive",
in which case your advice is entirely appropriate.
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Yes.. Which is why it is just easier to have said..

You should consider getting a larger drive and imaging it to the new drive,
using a third party tool to expand the partitions (C) if it is a partition
or uninstall applications from C and reinstall them onto D.
 
Cacher said:
Thanks for your help. Can I add a partition to my (mostly empty) D:
drive to do the image, or does that have to be done at the time the
drive is installed? Can you recommend a tool to do this?

Alt question: Does the SP2 install really need 1.8G during install?
I found another page (can't find it again now) that said that 1.1GB
would be enough.
Click to expand...

Partition(s) are a division of space on a single physical device (hard disk
drive.)

If your computer has one physical hard disk drive and that drive is
partitioned into different areas (partitions) including "C" and "D" - then
you can use a utility like Partition Magic to resize the "C" partition -
taking some of the space from the "D" partition.

If your computer has more than one physical hard disk drive and the "C"
partition is actually ALL of one of these drives - then the only thing you
can do is:

1) Uninstall applications from C and reinstall them on D to obtain more
space.
2) Purchase a new hard disk drive and use an imaging utility to copy
everything from your small (current) "C" disk drive to your new larger disk
drive.

It all depends on the physical drive situation and how those physical drives
are partitioned into logical disks.
 
Shenan

I didn't say that because the OP already has a larger drive.. an 80Gb drive
no less.. I assumed, and maybe rightly so in this case , that the OP had at
some stage purchased a new drive to augment the small primary already in the
machine..

Pegasus

For general info (or how I interpret).. a drive is a physical hard drive or
hard disk drive.. a partition is a partition or logical drive.. a logical
drive is a part of a physical hard drive or hard disk drive..

The end result is that I call a drive a drive, and a partition a partition..
and the hole I am presently digging here is done with a spade.. :-)
 
Pegasus said:
Mike,

When the OP said "drive" I interpreted it as "drive"
rather than "disk". If it is a drive then Acronis can
resize it on the fly. If it is a disk then it can't.

In other words, I interpret "drive" as a partition with
a drive letter attached. A "disk" to me is a physical
unit with one or several drives on it.
Click to expand...

You know "hard disk drive"? These words just belong together.
 
Mario said:
That' s what Microsoft motivates the users to, save all their stuff
in their home directory which is in the system partition by default
that is just stupid. I am sure it will be the same with Windows
Vista. Same stupidity like always.
Click to expand...

Shenan said:
Most users only have a C drive/system partition..
Click to expand...

Mario said:
Because they just pressed enter during install or OEMs with stupid
preinstalled systems.
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Yes - and MOST people have this type of system because they have no interest
in learning the inner workings of the computer anymore than they do their
toaster oven, their refrigerator, their telephone or their ceiling fans.

So is Microsoft supposed to train people to do things they have no interest
in doing? heh
Not to mention, the benefits of having multiple partitions and NOT multiple
drives vary per need/application.
 
Shenan said:
Yes - and MOST people have this type of system because they have no interest
in learning the inner workings of the computer anymore than they do their
toaster oven, their refrigerator, their telephone or their ceiling fans.

So is Microsoft supposed to train people to do things they have no interest
in doing? heh
Not to mention, the benefits of having multiple partitions and NOT multiple
drives vary per need/application.
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No. But just the _option_ (even powerusers don't have them during setup)
and an infermative help text would improve things. Don' t you think?

Personally, my home dir is completely empty except thunderbird and
firefox profiles. Everything else is stored on a second partition and
backuped weekly.
 
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