Improper shutdown

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The laptop in question was not actually shut down. The lid was closed and the
laptop moved. It didnt power on thereafter and the technician's thesis is
that improper shutdown damaged the motherboard.
Pls can somone explain the relationship btw shutdown, OS, harddisk and
motherboard?
 
Most laptops will go into hibernation or standby when the lid is closed,
depending on your power settings. If it won't start back up, unplug it from
the wall, pull the battery, and let it sit for 2 or 3 minutes. Put the
battery back in, plug in the power cord, turn it on and see what happens.

SC Tom
 
The date and time was Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:32:08 AM, and on a whim,
Edigate pounded out on the keyboard:
The laptop in question was not actually shut down. The lid was closed and the
laptop moved. It didnt power on thereafter and the technician's thesis is
that improper shutdown damaged the motherboard.
Pls can somone explain the relationship btw shutdown, OS, harddisk and
motherboard?

The tech is guessing, and it's a bad guess at that.

I have had two laptops over the years not start up, and strangely enough
it was a corrupt hibernation file. Turning it on would cause lights to
flash and then shut off. After deleting the file, the laptops booted fine.

If any other suggestions don't work, have a knowledgeable person delete
the hidden file located in the root of the drive (hiberfil.sys) and see
if that works.


Terry R.
 
Edigate said:
The laptop in question was not actually shut down. The lid was closed and the
laptop moved. It didnt power on thereafter and the technician's thesis is
that improper shutdown damaged the motherboard.
Pls can somone explain the relationship btw shutdown, OS, harddisk and
motherboard?

The "tech" is incompetent.
 
The laptop in question was not actually shut down. The lid was closed and the
laptop moved. It didnt power on thereafter and the technician's thesis is
that improper shutdown damaged the motherboard.
Pls can somone explain the relationship btw shutdown, OS, harddisk and
motherboard?

If the laptop did not go into hibernation/suspend when the lid was
closed, while it was "Moved" it would still be running. If you
transported it by sticking it in the Laptop Bag, it could easily have
overheated and damaged itself.

If the unit actually, properly, went into hibernation/suspend, then no
damage could happen to it by closing the lid and transporting it.

So, unless the unit was still running and over heated there is no way,
short of massive vibration/shock (physical, not electrical), that the
motherboard was damaged.
 
If the laptop did not go into hibernation/suspend when the lid was
closed, while it was "Moved" it would still be running. If you
transported it by sticking it in the Laptop Bag, it could easily have
overheated and damaged itself.

If the unit actually, properly, went into hibernation/suspend, then no
damage could happen to it by closing the lid and transporting it.

So, unless the unit was still running and over heated there is no way,
short of massive vibration/shock (physical, not electrical), that the
motherboard was damaged.

To add to that the laptop *should* have turned off if it detects the
mobo or cpu is overheating.
 
Very unlikely to cause damage, expect possibly to the filesystems.

The only reason I can see for damage is if the laptop failed to go into
sleep/hibernate mode and overheated. The laptop would have got very hot to
the touch. Generally if it was on batteries they would have just run out.
However if it was plugged in for an extended time a laptop in this state can
get very hot.

Malcolm.
 
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You should format your hard drive and reinstall windows.

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Edigate said:
The laptop in question was not actually shut down. The lid was closed
and the laptop moved. It didnt power on thereafter and the
technician's thesis is that improper shutdown damaged the motherboard.
Pls can somone explain the relationship btw shutdown, OS, harddisk and
motherboard?

If that sequence harms the motherboard, there'd be about 10,000 new
motherboards installed daily.

Unlikely in the extreme. Your tech is shining on you.
 
I don't agree. The advice is, I think, good. Re-formatting and re-installing Windows solves a lot of
problems, and often greatly speeds up a PC. I don't tend to spend to long trying to fix problems on
people's PCs the manual way. I've found it's generally quicker, and I get better results, if I start
from scratch. You do have to make sure you backup the user data, have all the programmes, essential
drivers, etc.


You should format your hard drive and reinstall windows.

For the archives, this is a forged post and the advice is bogus.
 
I don't agree. The advice is, I think, good. Re-formatting and re-installing Windows solves a lot of
problems, and often greatly speeds up a PC. I don't tend to spend to long trying to fix problems on
people's PCs the manual way. I've found it's generally quicker, and I get better results, if I start
from scratch. You do have to make sure you backup the user data, have all the programmes, essential
drivers, etc.

If the advice was serious, the author would not have bothered to forge
it under someone else's name.
 
How do you know that it is forged? I've always been told that it's not a good idea to put your real
details in, otherwise spammers can get your email address.


I don't agree. The advice is, I think, good. Re-formatting and re-installing Windows solves a lot
of
problems, and often greatly speeds up a PC. I don't tend to spend to long trying to fix problems on
people's PCs the manual way. I've found it's generally quicker, and I get better results, if I
start
from scratch. You do have to make sure you backup the user data, have all the programmes, essential
drivers, etc.

If the advice was serious, the author would not have bothered to forge
it under someone else's name.
 
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