I have to purchase another MS Win XP? Is this true?

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Hi:

My pc motherboard croaked last week so I purchased a new pc from a local
vendor who makes their own clones. My last "dead" pc had Windows XP Home
Edition SP2 loaded on it. I asked this vendor to unregister my existing XP
license from the dead computer and reload it on my newly-purchased computer.
I was told by this company that my request could not be done and that I had
to purchase XP all over again. Would someone be kind enough to confirm this
for me? If this is true, it is extremely unfair of Microsoft to have this
policy. Please advise. Thank you.
 
If you have the Windows XP install disks, install them again and use the
phone option to activate. Explain that the old computer is dead and the OS
has been effectively removed. MS will give you a new activation number and
you will be on your way.
True, if the OS was an OEM version, it was tied to the old computer by the
user agreement, but in this case, I think MS will let that float if the old
computer is now dead and gone.

: Hi:
:
: My pc motherboard croaked last week so I purchased a new pc from a local
: vendor who makes their own clones. My last "dead" pc had Windows XP Home
: Edition SP2 loaded on it. I asked this vendor to unregister my existing XP
: license from the dead computer and reload it on my newly-purchased
computer.
: I was told by this company that my request could not be done and that I
had
: to purchase XP all over again. Would someone be kind enough to confirm
this
: for me? If this is true, it is extremely unfair of Microsoft to have this
: policy. Please advise. Thank you.
: --
: Tom
 
TWSIII said:
Hi:

My pc motherboard croaked last week so I purchased a new pc from a local
vendor who makes their own clones. My last "dead" pc had Windows XP Home
Edition SP2 loaded on it. I asked this vendor to unregister my existing XP
license from the dead computer and reload it on my newly-purchased computer.
I was told by this company that my request could not be done and that I had
to purchase XP all over again. Would someone be kind enough to confirm this
for me? If this is true, it is extremely unfair of Microsoft to have this
policy. Please advise. Thank you.

Brand name of croaked PC? Did it come with an XP CD or a restore disk?

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If it is a retail version you can transfer it to another machine
if it is oem that stays with the original machine, but you could have
put new parts in and used the oem
 
Richard said:
If you have the Windows XP install disks, install them again and use the
phone option to activate. Explain that the old computer is dead and the OS
has been effectively removed. MS will give you a new activation number and
you will be on your way.
True, if the OS was an OEM version, it was tied to the old computer by the
user agreement, but in this case, I think MS will let that float if the old
computer is now dead and gone.

Actually, they won't. If it's been over 120 days and the OP has a
*generic* OEM CD, it will activate online, although it is against the
terms of MS' scammy EULA.

Alias

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If your old computer came with Windows XP
preinstalled, then it cannot be transferred to
a different computer since that OEM license is directly
tied to that particular computer. Only "retail versions"
of Windows XP may be transferred to a new computer.

You'll need to purchase a conventional version
of Windows XP for installation on your new computer.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
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:

| Hi:
|
| My pc motherboard croaked last week so I purchased a new pc from a local
| vendor who makes their own clones. My last "dead" pc had Windows XP Home
| Edition SP2 loaded on it. I asked this vendor to unregister my existing XP
| license from the dead computer and reload it on my newly-purchased computer.
| I was told by this company that my request could not be done and that I had
| to purchase XP all over again. Would someone be kind enough to confirm this
| for me? If this is true, it is extremely unfair of Microsoft to have this
| policy. Please advise. Thank you.
| --
| Tom
 
If you have the Windows XP install disks, install them again and use the
phone option to activate.

The catch, of course, it that whatever disks he may posses from the old
system probably will not load on the new computer due to driver conflicts of
the previous "streamlined" OEM product.

-Frank
 
Thank you, Richard for your advice and quick response. I think you just saved
me a significant amount of money. Again, thank you.
 
TWSIII said:
Thank you, Richard for your advice and quick response. I think you just saved
me a significant amount of money. Again, thank you.

Except he gave you bad advice that won't work unless you have a retail
copy of XP. We need to know what type of XP you have, retail, generic
OEM or an OEM made by your dead computer's manufacturer.
 
TWSIII said:
Hi:

My pc motherboard croaked last week so I purchased a new pc from a local
vendor who makes their own clones. My last "dead" pc had Windows XP Home
Edition SP2 loaded on it. I asked this vendor to unregister my existing XP
license from the dead computer and reload it on my newly-purchased computer.
I was told by this company that my request could not be done and that I had
to purchase XP all over again. Would someone be kind enough to confirm this
for me?


It would depend entirely upon the specific type of WinXP license that
you have on the old, defunct PC. If it was an OEM license (purchased as
part of the PC and pre-installed at the factory, usually), then that
local vendor is perfectly correct. An OEM version must be sold with a
piece of hardware (normally a motherboard or hard drive, if not an
entire PC) and is _permanently_ bound to the first PC on which it's
installed. An OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable
to another computer under _any_ circumstances.

If, however, you had a retail license, you can remove it from the old
PC and install it on the new computer.

If this is true, it is extremely unfair of Microsoft to have this
policy. Please advise. Thank you.


Why is this unfair? If you had an OEM license, you got what you paid
for. The OEM License that came with the PC was deeply discounted, as
compared to a full-featured retail license. One cannot reasonably
expect to pay a discounted price for a limited product and yet expect a
product with no limitations. One of an OEM license's limitations is a
lack of transferability.

There are some very important reasons that an OEM license costs so
much less than a retail license. OEM licenses are very limited:

1) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of non-peripheral
hardware (normally a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC,
although Microsoft has greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP)
and are _permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed.
An OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another
computer under any circumstances. This is the main reason some people
avoid OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even
stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new PC. The only
legitimate way to transfer the ownership of an OEM license is to
transfer ownership of the entire PC.

2) Microsoft provides no free support for OEM versions. If you
have any problems that require outside assistance, your only recourse is
to contact the manufacturer/builder of the PC or the vendor of the OEM
license. This would include such issues as lost a Product Key or
replacing damaged installation media. (Microsoft does make allowances
for those instances when you can prove that the OEM has gone out of
business.) This doesn't mean that you can't download patches and
service packs from Microsoft -- just no free telephone or email support
for problems with the OS.

3) An OEM CD cannot be used to perform an upgrade of an earlier
OS, as it was designed to be installed _only_ upon an empty hard drive.
It can still be used to perform a repair installation (a.k.a. an
in-place upgrade) of an existing WinXP installation.

4) If the OEM CD was designed by a specific manufacturer, such as
eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most likely only install
on the same brand of PC, as an additional anti-piracy feature. Further,
such CDs are severely customized to contain only the minimum of device
drivers, and a lot of extra nonsense, that the manufacturer feels
necessary for the specific model of PC for which the CD was designed.
(To be honest, such CDs should _not_ be available on the open market;
but, if you're shopping someplace on-line like eBay, swap meets, or
computer fairs, there's often no telling what you're buying until it's
too late.) The "generic" OEM CDs, such as are manufactured by Microsoft
and sold to small systems builders, don't have this particular problem,
though, and are pretty much the same as their retail counterparts, apart
from the licensing, support, and upgrading restrictions.


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Bruce Chambers

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TWSIII said:
Hi:

My pc motherboard croaked last week so I purchased a new pc from a
local vendor who makes their own clones. My last "dead" pc had
Windows XP Home Edition SP2 loaded on it. I asked this vendor to
unregister my existing XP license from the dead computer and reload
it on my newly-purchased computer. I was told by this company that my
request could not be done and that I had to purchase XP all over
again. Would someone be kind enough to confirm this for me? If this
is true, it is extremely unfair of Microsoft to have this policy.
Please advise. Thank you.

Do it yourself, and if you need to talk to a Product Activation phone
rep, just make up a good story. The Indians they have answering are
mostly tech illiterates and will activate nearly anybody that gives them
a good story.

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Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"
 
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