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Quick status: Users' operating system becomes severely crippled and user
can't back up files found in profile on Docs and Settings (Desktop/My
Docs/Outlook .pst) because network ports won't recognize, and the dvd burner
won't operate, plus it runs about 1% speed. Having been burned in the past
where data is lost, user decides to NOT repair the installation because
numerous sites say "data may be lost" in user profile folders. So user
instead creates a fresh install 2nd operating system off Win XP install CD,
on the same drive. 2nd version of XP runs fine and user can get most files
off hard drive to back up, but it says Access Denied when he tries to look in
the profile folders associated with the old OS version.

So after setup, when you log into the 2nd OS - I *thought* you would have
admin level privileges (didn't set up any profiles on this one). Looking at
User Accounts it even says user has Admin rights too. But "access denied"

So the question is - how do I get access (via the new OS) into user folders
that were tied to the old OS? Or can people confirm it's "safe" to repair
the 1st install and not lose outlook pst and desktop files?

thanks so much this one is a pain!
 
Dan W said:
Quick status: Users' operating system becomes severely crippled and user
can't back up files found in profile on Docs and Settings (Desktop/My
Docs/Outlook .pst) because network ports won't recognize, and the dvd burner
won't operate, plus it runs about 1% speed. Having been burned in the past
where data is lost, user decides to NOT repair the installation because
numerous sites say "data may be lost" in user profile folders. So user
instead creates a fresh install 2nd operating system off Win XP install CD,
on the same drive. 2nd version of XP runs fine and user can get most files
off hard drive to back up, but it says Access Denied when he tries to look in
the profile folders associated with the old OS version.

So after setup, when you log into the 2nd OS - I *thought* you would have
admin level privileges (didn't set up any profiles on this one). Looking at
User Accounts it even says user has Admin rights too. But "access denied"

So the question is - how do I get access (via the new OS) into user folders
that were tied to the old OS? Or can people confirm it's "safe" to repair
the 1st install and not lose outlook pst and desktop files?

thanks so much this one is a pain!

You need to seize ownership of the old folders. Click Start / Help /
Search tab, type ownership and follow the leads.
 
Ok did that and the problem is that the user's computer doesn't allow him to
turn on the Security tab to access ownership. Because the option to "Use
simple sharing [recommended]" doesn't exist in the Folder Options / View menu
(the very last item on that menu isn't there). It's on other computers
however, so is there something special required to get that menu option to
appear so we can get to the Security tab and try to take ownership?

Thanks
Dan
 
I recently struck the same problem on an XP Home PC. Rather
than trying to solve the problem, I walked around it by running
this command:

subinacl /subdirectories "c:\documents and settings\user" /setowner=dan

The command is included with the Windows Resource Kit. If you
post a valid email address then I'll send you a copy.

Dan W said:
Ok did that and the problem is that the user's computer doesn't allow him to
turn on the Security tab to access ownership. Because the option to "Use
simple sharing [recommended]" doesn't exist in the Folder Options / View menu
(the very last item on that menu isn't there). It's on other computers
however, so is there something special required to get that menu option to
appear so we can get to the Security tab and try to take ownership?

Thanks
Dan

Pegasus (MVP) said:
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You need to seize ownership of the old folders. Click Start / Help /
Search tab, type ownership and follow the leads.
 
Walkarounds are great with me - please send to hwy1dan at yahoo dot com,
thanks very much for your help!

Pegasus (MVP) said:
I recently struck the same problem on an XP Home PC. Rather
than trying to solve the problem, I walked around it by running
this command:

subinacl /subdirectories "c:\documents and settings\user" /setowner=dan

The command is included with the Windows Resource Kit. If you
post a valid email address then I'll send you a copy.

Dan W said:
Ok did that and the problem is that the user's computer doesn't allow him to
turn on the Security tab to access ownership. Because the option to "Use
simple sharing [recommended]" doesn't exist in the Folder Options / View menu
(the very last item on that menu isn't there). It's on other computers
however, so is there something special required to get that menu option to
appear so we can get to the Security tab and try to take ownership?

Thanks
Dan

Pegasus (MVP) said:
Quick status: Users' operating system becomes severely crippled and user
can't back up files found in profile on Docs and Settings (Desktop/My
Docs/Outlook .pst) because network ports won't recognize, and the dvd
burner
won't operate, plus it runs about 1% speed. Having been burned in the
past
where data is lost, user decides to NOT repair the installation because
numerous sites say "data may be lost" in user profile folders. So user
instead creates a fresh install 2nd operating system off Win XP install
CD,
on the same drive. 2nd version of XP runs fine and user can get most
files
off hard drive to back up, but it says Access Denied when he tries to look
in
the profile folders associated with the old OS version.

So after setup, when you log into the 2nd OS - I *thought* you would have
admin level privileges (didn't set up any profiles on this one). Looking
at
User Accounts it even says user has Admin rights too. But "access denied"

So the question is - how do I get access (via the new OS) into user
folders
that were tied to the old OS? Or can people confirm it's "safe" to
repair
the 1st install and not lose outlook pst and desktop files?

thanks so much this one is a pain!

You need to seize ownership of the old folders. Click Start / Help /
Search tab, type ownership and follow the leads.
 
Ok so i'm going to do this at cmd prompt, right? And then for setowner just
match whatever the correct profile name is, and it should alter access on all
those dir to fit that username? Thanks again!

Pegasus (MVP) said:
I recently struck the same problem on an XP Home PC. Rather
than trying to solve the problem, I walked around it by running
this command:

subinacl /subdirectories "c:\documents and settings\user" /setowner=dan

The command is included with the Windows Resource Kit. If you
post a valid email address then I'll send you a copy.

Dan W said:
Ok did that and the problem is that the user's computer doesn't allow him to
turn on the Security tab to access ownership. Because the option to "Use
simple sharing [recommended]" doesn't exist in the Folder Options / View menu
(the very last item on that menu isn't there). It's on other computers
however, so is there something special required to get that menu option to
appear so we can get to the Security tab and try to take ownership?

Thanks
Dan

Pegasus (MVP) said:
Quick status: Users' operating system becomes severely crippled and user
can't back up files found in profile on Docs and Settings (Desktop/My
Docs/Outlook .pst) because network ports won't recognize, and the dvd
burner
won't operate, plus it runs about 1% speed. Having been burned in the
past
where data is lost, user decides to NOT repair the installation because
numerous sites say "data may be lost" in user profile folders. So user
instead creates a fresh install 2nd operating system off Win XP install
CD,
on the same drive. 2nd version of XP runs fine and user can get most
files
off hard drive to back up, but it says Access Denied when he tries to look
in
the profile folders associated with the old OS version.

So after setup, when you log into the 2nd OS - I *thought* you would have
admin level privileges (didn't set up any profiles on this one). Looking
at
User Accounts it even says user has Admin rights too. But "access denied"

So the question is - how do I get access (via the new OS) into user
folders
that were tied to the old OS? Or can people confirm it's "safe" to
repair
the 1st install and not lose outlook pst and desktop files?

thanks so much this one is a pain!

You need to seize ownership of the old folders. Click Start / Help /
Search tab, type ownership and follow the leads.
 
/setowner= must be set to your logon name
(if you want to seize ownership for yourself). This is often
different from the name of your profile folder.

c:\documents and settings\xxxx must be set to the folder
you wish to control.

Dan W said:
Ok so i'm going to do this at cmd prompt, right? And then for setowner just
match whatever the correct profile name is, and it should alter access on all
those dir to fit that username? Thanks again!

Pegasus (MVP) said:
I recently struck the same problem on an XP Home PC. Rather
than trying to solve the problem, I walked around it by running
this command:

subinacl /subdirectories "c:\documents and settings\user" /setowner=dan

The command is included with the Windows Resource Kit. If you
post a valid email address then I'll send you a copy.

Dan W said:
Ok did that and the problem is that the user's computer doesn't allow
him
to
turn on the Security tab to access ownership. Because the option to "Use
simple sharing [recommended]" doesn't exist in the Folder Options /
View
menu
(the very last item on that menu isn't there). It's on other computers
however, so is there something special required to get that menu option to
appear so we can get to the Security tab and try to take ownership?

Thanks
Dan

:


Quick status: Users' operating system becomes severely crippled
and
user
can't back up files found in profile on Docs and Settings (Desktop/My
Docs/Outlook .pst) because network ports won't recognize, and the dvd
burner
won't operate, plus it runs about 1% speed. Having been burned in the
past
where data is lost, user decides to NOT repair the installation because
numerous sites say "data may be lost" in user profile folders. So user
instead creates a fresh install 2nd operating system off Win XP install
CD,
on the same drive. 2nd version of XP runs fine and user can get most
files
off hard drive to back up, but it says Access Denied when he tries
to
look
in
the profile folders associated with the old OS version.

So after setup, when you log into the 2nd OS - I *thought* you
would
have
admin level privileges (didn't set up any profiles on this one). Looking
at
User Accounts it even says user has Admin rights too. But "access denied"

So the question is - how do I get access (via the new OS) into user
folders
that were tied to the old OS? Or can people confirm it's "safe" to
repair
the 1st install and not lose outlook pst and desktop files?

thanks so much this one is a pain!

You need to seize ownership of the old folders. Click Start / Help /
Search tab, type ownership and follow the leads.
 
Dan said:
Ok did that and the problem is that the user's computer doesn't allow him to
turn on the Security tab to access ownership. Because the option to "Use
simple sharing [recommended]" doesn't exist in the Folder Options / View menu
(the very last item on that menu isn't there). It's on other computers
however, so is there something special required to get that menu option to
appear so we can get to the Security tab and try to take ownership?
Hi,

I would think you run WinXP Home:

Note this from KB308421 (link below):

<quote>
If you are running Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition, you must
start the computer in safe mode, and then log on with an account
that has Administrative rights to have access to the Security tab.
</quote>

"Access is Denied" Error Message When You Try to Open a Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;810881

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308421
 
Torgeir Bakken (MVP) said:
Dan said:
Ok did that and the problem is that the user's computer doesn't allow him to
turn on the Security tab to access ownership. Because the option to "Use
simple sharing [recommended]" doesn't exist in the Folder Options / View menu
(the very last item on that menu isn't there). It's on other computers
however, so is there something special required to get that menu option to
appear so we can get to the Security tab and try to take ownership?
Hi,

I would think you run WinXP Home:

Note this from KB308421 (link below):

<quote>
If you are running Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition, you must
start the computer in safe mode, and then log on with an account
that has Administrative rights to have access to the Security tab.
</quote>

"Access is Denied" Error Message When You Try to Open a Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;810881

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308421

No wonder I could not find it. Thanks for the tip!
 
Thanks to both of you, this seems to have finally done the trick! I didn't
think about XP home but that machine was a dell with factory install (rest of
our machines run xp pro) and indeed that was the case.

Aside from a few corrupt files, we got what we needed off there including
the outlook .pst. now thankfully we can format that bastard and get a clean
start! great advice and help, we really appreciate your additional replies
to help clarify!

Pegasus (MVP) said:
Torgeir Bakken (MVP) said:
Dan said:
Ok did that and the problem is that the user's computer doesn't allow him to
turn on the Security tab to access ownership. Because the option to "Use
simple sharing [recommended]" doesn't exist in the Folder Options / View menu
(the very last item on that menu isn't there). It's on other computers
however, so is there something special required to get that menu option to
appear so we can get to the Security tab and try to take ownership?
Hi,

I would think you run WinXP Home:

Note this from KB308421 (link below):

<quote>
If you are running Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition, you must
start the computer in safe mode, and then log on with an account
that has Administrative rights to have access to the Security tab.
</quote>

"Access is Denied" Error Message When You Try to Open a Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;810881

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308421

No wonder I could not find it. Thanks for the tip!
 
You words suggest that you don't believe in backing up
important files regularly to an independent medium. These
newsgroup deal regularly with posts from people who have
lost their entire Outlook correspondence of several years,
contacts an all. I suspect that you just had a close shave.


Dan W said:
Thanks to both of you, this seems to have finally done the trick! I didn't
think about XP home but that machine was a dell with factory install (rest of
our machines run xp pro) and indeed that was the case.

Aside from a few corrupt files, we got what we needed off there including
the outlook .pst. now thankfully we can format that bastard and get a clean
start! great advice and help, we really appreciate your additional replies
to help clarify!

Pegasus (MVP) said:
Torgeir Bakken (MVP) said:
Dan W wrote:

Ok did that and the problem is that the user's computer doesn't
allow
him to
turn on the Security tab to access ownership. Because the option to "Use
simple sharing [recommended]" doesn't exist in the Folder Options /
View
menu
(the very last item on that menu isn't there). It's on other computers
however, so is there something special required to get that menu
option
to
appear so we can get to the Security tab and try to take ownership?

Hi,

I would think you run WinXP Home:

Note this from KB308421 (link below):

<quote>
If you are running Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition, you must
start the computer in safe mode, and then log on with an account
that has Administrative rights to have access to the Security tab.
</quote>

"Access is Denied" Error Message When You Try to Open a Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;810881

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308421

No wonder I could not find it. Thanks for the tip!
 
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