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Mauro
I want to install my Windows XP Professional into an empty
HD serial ATA ?
HD serial ATA ?
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Shenan Stanley
Mauro said:I want to install my Windows XP Professional into an empty
HD serial ATA ?
Have SATA drivers ready on Floppy Disk. If you do not have a floppy disk
drive, look into slipstreaming. Boot from your Windows XP CD. When it asks
you to press F6 to install a third-party SCSI or RAID driver, do this and
insert your floppy disk with the driver into the floppy disk drive.
Continue with the install, selecting the empty space on your new hard drive
to create a new partitoin, etc etc...
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alanrc54
Shenan, I don't know what you mean by "slipstreaming"--you might want to
describe that in more detail. Meanwhile, I just went through this process
with my new computer, so here is what I learned. First, you won't be able to
make your SATA hard drive your "C" drive if there is an IDE drive attached,
so disconnect any IDE drive first. You can reconnect it after running
Windows setup on the SATA drive. Second, you need the SATA drivers on a
floppy, but you also need a file named txtsetup.oem. You should find this
file and the SATA drivers on your motherboard or system driver CD, or find
it on the manufacturer's website. You should copy the entire SATA driver
folder onto the floppy along with the txtsetup.oem file. Then follow
Shenan's instructions below. If you do the F6 thing and Windows Setup still
doesn't find your SATA drive, that means you probably didn't have all the
right drivers on your floppy. For instance, I have an MSI KT-6 Delta
motherboard, which has both Via SATA drivers and Promise SATA drivers. I
tried to use the Via drivers on the floppy, but it turned out that I needed
the Promise drivers. Also, you should check in your BIOS settings to see if
you can designate the SATA drive as one of the boot drives. I hope that
helps. Mauro, let us know how it goes and if you are successful.
Meanwhile, I cheated and bought a Promise SATA 150 TX2+ PCI card, which came
with a ready-made SATA driver floppy, which worked like a charm on the first
try. So if anybody wants to upgrade their computer to SATA, that's a much
easier route. You still have to disconnect any other drives to make the SATA
drive your C drive.
Alan
describe that in more detail. Meanwhile, I just went through this process
with my new computer, so here is what I learned. First, you won't be able to
make your SATA hard drive your "C" drive if there is an IDE drive attached,
so disconnect any IDE drive first. You can reconnect it after running
Windows setup on the SATA drive. Second, you need the SATA drivers on a
floppy, but you also need a file named txtsetup.oem. You should find this
file and the SATA drivers on your motherboard or system driver CD, or find
it on the manufacturer's website. You should copy the entire SATA driver
folder onto the floppy along with the txtsetup.oem file. Then follow
Shenan's instructions below. If you do the F6 thing and Windows Setup still
doesn't find your SATA drive, that means you probably didn't have all the
right drivers on your floppy. For instance, I have an MSI KT-6 Delta
motherboard, which has both Via SATA drivers and Promise SATA drivers. I
tried to use the Via drivers on the floppy, but it turned out that I needed
the Promise drivers. Also, you should check in your BIOS settings to see if
you can designate the SATA drive as one of the boot drives. I hope that
helps. Mauro, let us know how it goes and if you are successful.
Meanwhile, I cheated and bought a Promise SATA 150 TX2+ PCI card, which came
with a ready-made SATA driver floppy, which worked like a charm on the first
try. So if anybody wants to upgrade their computer to SATA, that's a much
easier route. You still have to disconnect any other drives to make the SATA
drive your C drive.
Alan
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Pete Baker
Alan
"you won't be able to make your SATA hard drive your "C" drive if there is
an IDE drive attached, so disconnect any IDE drive first."
This may have been your experience, but it is NOT a general rule.
Pete
"you won't be able to make your SATA hard drive your "C" drive if there is
an IDE drive attached, so disconnect any IDE drive first."
This may have been your experience, but it is NOT a general rule.
Pete
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Mark Dormer
This probably only applies to addon cards.
My MB with built in SATA didnt need me to unplug the IDE, their are bios
settings to change the drive ennumeration orders.
Also I didn't need any drivers.
Regards
Mark Dormer
My MB with built in SATA didnt need me to unplug the IDE, their are bios
settings to change the drive ennumeration orders.
Also I didn't need any drivers.
Regards
Mark Dormer
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alanrc54
Well that's good to know. I certainly fit into the category of "still
learning" so I appreciate the correction.
Alan
learning" so I appreciate the correction.
Alan
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Pete Baker
Mark
With a mainboard that uses Intel's ICH5 or ICHR5 chipset, standard drivers
supplied on the XP CD will be used... hence you had no need to introduce
third-party drivers using the F6 method.
With SATA and Parallel ATA drives on the same system the BIOS settings, and
whether the mainboard allows boot from a particular SATA controller, will be
crucial to XP installation.
Pete
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With a mainboard that uses Intel's ICH5 or ICHR5 chipset, standard drivers
supplied on the XP CD will be used... hence you had no need to introduce
third-party drivers using the F6 method.
With SATA and Parallel ATA drives on the same system the BIOS settings, and
whether the mainboard allows boot from a particular SATA controller, will be
crucial to XP installation.
Pete
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alanrc54
Mark is the first person I've heard from that didn't need to use F6 to load the SATA drivers during Windows Setup. What sort of motherboard was that, Mark?
As I mentioned previously, I suspect that within a year, all new motherboards will have SATA support built in, as my SATA hard drive is noticeably faster than my IDE drive, and the SATA cables are an improvement as well. All these current obstacles to installing SATA will likely be eliminated by then, but then we will have a whole new set of stumbling blocks to keep us busy! ;-)
Alan
As I mentioned previously, I suspect that within a year, all new motherboards will have SATA support built in, as my SATA hard drive is noticeably faster than my IDE drive, and the SATA cables are an improvement as well. All these current obstacles to installing SATA will likely be eliminated by then, but then we will have a whole new set of stumbling blocks to keep us busy! ;-)
Alan
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Pete Baker
Alan
As I mentioned in my reply to Mark, a mainboard that uses Intel's ICH5 or
ICHR5 chipsets can utilise standard IDE drivers for the SATA connection...
those drivers are supplied on the XP CD and therefore no third-party drivers
are required.
It isn't strictly an issue of which mainboard, but rather which chipset is
in use. Obviously there may be a general adoption of this kind of *fully
incorporated* SATA controller in future, as opposed to the *on-board*
controllers that are more common at the moment and require the introduction
of third-party drivers, but we will just have to wait and see.
Pete
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in message
Mark is the first person I've heard from that didn't need to use F6 to load
the SATA drivers during Windows Setup. What sort of motherboard was that,
Mark?
As I mentioned previously, I suspect that within a year, all new
motherboards will have SATA support built in, as my SATA hard drive is
noticeably faster than my IDE drive, and the SATA cables are an improvement
as well. All these current obstacles to installing SATA will likely be
eliminated by then, but then we will have a whole new set of stumbling
blocks to keep us busy! ;-)
Alan
As I mentioned in my reply to Mark, a mainboard that uses Intel's ICH5 or
ICHR5 chipsets can utilise standard IDE drivers for the SATA connection...
those drivers are supplied on the XP CD and therefore no third-party drivers
are required.
It isn't strictly an issue of which mainboard, but rather which chipset is
in use. Obviously there may be a general adoption of this kind of *fully
incorporated* SATA controller in future, as opposed to the *on-board*
controllers that are more common at the moment and require the introduction
of third-party drivers, but we will just have to wait and see.
Pete
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in message
Mark is the first person I've heard from that didn't need to use F6 to load
the SATA drivers during Windows Setup. What sort of motherboard was that,
Mark?
As I mentioned previously, I suspect that within a year, all new
motherboards will have SATA support built in, as my SATA hard drive is
noticeably faster than my IDE drive, and the SATA cables are an improvement
as well. All these current obstacles to installing SATA will likely be
eliminated by then, but then we will have a whole new set of stumbling
blocks to keep us busy! ;-)
Alan
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alanrc54
I was just curious which motherboards use those chipsets. (not a
comprehensive list, just a couple of examples) I'm guessing it's Pentium 4,
as I use Athlon and didn't recognize the chipset. And thanks for the info to
both you and Mark.
Alan
comprehensive list, just a couple of examples) I'm guessing it's Pentium 4,
as I use Athlon and didn't recognize the chipset. And thanks for the info to
both you and Mark.
Alan
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cquirke (MVP Win9x)
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 01:00:28 -0800, "Mauro"
Firstly, make sure BIOS/CMOS is set to use the Serial-ATA in the way
you want - options usually involve RAID vs. not RAID, whether S-ATA
replaces or suppliments "normal" xIDE, and which interface is booted
first. Get all of those ducks perfectly lined up!
Next, make sure the HD is the first boot "fixed" device, else what may
happen is that XP sees the drive as some letter higher than C:, and
you can't fix that afterwards. This has reportedly happened when
removable disks (Zip disks, USB flash drives) were left in place at
installation time; optical and standard diskette should be OK.
I want to install my Windows XP Professional into an empty
HD serial ATA ?
Firstly, make sure BIOS/CMOS is set to use the Serial-ATA in the way
you want - options usually involve RAID vs. not RAID, whether S-ATA
replaces or suppliments "normal" xIDE, and which interface is booted
first. Get all of those ducks perfectly lined up!
Next, make sure the HD is the first boot "fixed" device, else what may
happen is that XP sees the drive as some letter higher than C:, and
you can't fix that afterwards. This has reportedly happened when
removable disks (Zip disks, USB flash drives) were left in place at
installation time; optical and standard diskette should be OK.
Never turn your back on an installer program--------------- ----- ---- --- -- - - -
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Mark Dormer
It is an MSI 875P NEO-FIS2R
As Pete mentions it uses the intel ICH5 chipset and uses drivers of the XP
CD.
Regards
Mark Dormer
Mark is the first person I've heard from that didn't need to use F6 to load
the SATA drivers during Windows Setup. What sort of motherboard was that,
Mark?
As I mentioned previously, I suspect that within a year, all new
motherboards will have SATA support built in, as my SATA hard drive is
noticeably faster than my IDE drive, and the SATA cables are an improvement
as well. All these current obstacles to installing SATA will likely be
eliminated by then, but then we will have a whole new set of stumbling
blocks to keep us busy! ;-)
Alan
As Pete mentions it uses the intel ICH5 chipset and uses drivers of the XP
CD.
Regards
Mark Dormer
Mark is the first person I've heard from that didn't need to use F6 to load
the SATA drivers during Windows Setup. What sort of motherboard was that,
Mark?
As I mentioned previously, I suspect that within a year, all new
motherboards will have SATA support built in, as my SATA hard drive is
noticeably faster than my IDE drive, and the SATA cables are an improvement
as well. All these current obstacles to installing SATA will likely be
eliminated by then, but then we will have a whole new set of stumbling
blocks to keep us busy! ;-)
Alan