How the heck do you do this????

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Microsoft instructions SUCK on this subject........ so hopefully someone can provide some good ones..

Look. This should be simple..... I want to remotely view and control someone else's desktop from my computer. We both have standard Dell computers with ordinary MS XP Professional and very standard MSN internet hi-speed connections. The instsructions in HELP are written for programmers, not regular folks ,and so are impossible to understand - and of course, impossible to implement. So, not surprizingly, I can't get things to work - - Gee, that's amazing! So can someone translate Microsoft's programmer BS and give me simple step1, step 2, step 3 type instructions (in terms humans can understand) so that I can see and control his desktop from my machine? Please don't use any client-server BS terms.... I don't know what the hell that is and don't try to explain it. Just use regular terms for my machine wanting to see and control his...

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Billy

BillyL
 
BillyL said:
Microsoft instructions SUCK on this subject........ so hopefully
someone can provide some good ones...

Look. This should be simple..... I want to remotely view and
control someone else's desktop from my computer. We both have
standard Dell computers with ordinary MS XP Professional and very
standard MSN internet hi-speed connections. The instsructions in
HELP are written for programmers, not regular folks ,and so are
impossible to understand - and of course, impossible to implement.
So, not surprizingly, I can't get things to work - - Gee, that's
amazing! So can someone translate Microsoft's programmer BS and give
me simple step1, step 2, step 3 type instructions (in terms humans
can understand) so that I can see and control his desktop from my
machine? Please don't use any client-server BS terms.... I don't
know what the hell that is and don't try to explain it. Just use
regular terms for my machine wanting to see and control his....

Thanks,
BillyL

BillyL
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Let's see what Help has to say about enabling Remote Desktop shall we?


To set up this computer to use Remote Desktop

1.. Open System in Control Panel.
2.. On the Remote tab, select the Allow users to connect remotely to this
computer check box.
3.. Ensure that you have the proper permissions to connect to your
computer remotely, and click OK. You must be an administrator or a member of
the Remote Desktop Users group on your computer. For more information, see
To allow other users to connect to your computer.
Notes

a.. You must be logged on as an administrator or a member of the
Administrators group to enable the Remote Desktop feature.
b.. To open a Control Panel item, click Start, click Control Panel, and
then double-click the appropriate icon.
If that's "programmer BS" then your command of the English language is
pretty limited... You might want to return your computer for a refund and
buy a dictionary...
 
Oh now come on... Can't you tell from my level of frustration with this that I have certainly tried AT LEAST this. What I said easily implies that I've been through the base-level instructions and then some... You can safely assume that I have also been through these HELP instructions: "How to install Remote Desktop Web Connection" and "Connect to another computer using Remote Desktop Web Connection". Both of these are IN ADDITION to the simple step you show here. Have you even ever done this before???? Once you get past this base-level stuff in search of why my rather ordinary set-ups can't connect, Microsoft's instructions are rife with programmer-speak about client-side machines, server machines, machine names and IP addresses (not to mention telling you to use "machine name", when IP address is what's really intended). Sorry, but I'm ticked Microsoft can't make this fall-over easy for the ordinary user..
BillyL
 
BillyL said:
Oh now come on... Can't you tell from my level of frustration with
this that I have certainly tried AT LEAST this. What I said easily
implies that I've been through the base-level instructions and then
some... You can safely assume that I have also been through these
HELP instructions: "How to install Remote Desktop Web Connection" and
"Connect to another computer using Remote Desktop Web Connection".
Both of these are IN ADDITION to the simple step you show here. Have
you even ever done this before???? Once you get past this base-level
stuff in search of why my rather ordinary set-ups can't connect,
Microsoft's instructions are rife with programmer-speak about
client-side machines, server machines, machine names and IP addresses
(not to mention telling you to use "machine name", when IP address is
what's really intended). Sorry, but I'm ticked Microsoft can't make
this fall-over easy for the ordinary user... BillyL
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We are *NOT* psychic - how in Hades are we supposed to know what you've
tried and what you haven't unless you *TELL US*?!

Have I ever done it? Yes I have - several times and it's worked flawlessly
every time. I'm not a programmer, I found it simple and easy to set up.

I can find nothing in Help that's "written for programmers" - it's all
simple and straightforward. As I stated before, if you can't understand it,
then I suggest you return your computer and buy a dictionary.
 
If your friend is behind a firewall/NAT/router then your friend needs to forward/open TCP Port 3389
to the private LAN IP of their PC. You would call using the public IP of your friends
firewall/NAT/router, ie. the IP assigned to them by their ISP. They can get that information by
going to the http://www.whatismyip.com site and give it to you.

If you were trying to use the web based method of Remote Desktop access then you would also need...

a. IIS installed and running on the target PC or another PC on the remote network *AND* have IIS
Remote
Desktop access configured. In the IIS install window click on "World Wide Web Services -> Details"
and check the checkbox for "Remote Desktop Web Connection".
b. Both TCP Port 80 (IIS) and TCP Port 3389 (RDP) forwarded/opened in the firewall/NAT/router.
c. The remote ISP does *NOT* block TCP Port 80 because its against the User Agreement to run Web
Servers on home networks.

With all that said, if you can not make the basic Remote Desktop connection work through your router
then the web based method also will not work.

Please post additional questions concerning XP Pro Remote Desktop to the
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.work_remotely news group.

--
Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights...

BillyL said:
Oh now come on... Can't you tell from my level of frustration with this that I have certainly
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tried AT LEAST this. What I said easily implies that I've been through the base-level instructions
and then some... You can safely assume that I have also been through these HELP instructions: "How
to install Remote Desktop Web Connection" and "Connect to another computer using Remote Desktop Web
Connection". Both of these are IN ADDITION to the simple step you show here. Have you even ever
done this before???? Once you get past this base-level stuff in search of why my rather ordinary
set-ups can't connect, Microsoft's instructions are rife with programmer-speak about client-side
machines, server machines, machine names and IP addresses (not to mention telling you to use
"machine name", when IP address is what's really intended). Sorry, but I'm ticked Microsoft can't
make this fall-over easy for the ordinary user...
 
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