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Jeff T
How long does WindowsXP have before it becomes unsupported?
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Good Guy
How long does WindowsXP have before it becomes unsupported?
The critical date is 8th April 2014 for Windows XP and Office 2003.
after that date there won't be any patches or updates.
this is the official statement:
"On April 8, 2014, Microsoft will end support for the decade-old Windows
XP. This means you will no longer receive updates, including security
updates, for Windows XP from Microsoft. Support of Microsoft Office 2003
will also be ending on the same date."
Good luck.
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Good Guy
How long does WindowsXP have before it becomes unsupported?
you might get trade up deals from major brands:
<http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/busi...ogle_windows+xp+support_Exact&CR_CC=200341068>
Scroll down the above link to see what is available from HP, DELL,
Samsung, Lenovo and others.
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VanguardLH
Jeff said:How long does WindowsXP have before it becomes unsupported?
http://www.microsoft.com/lifecycle
Use the alphabetical listing. Click on "W" to jump to the products
starting with that letter. Look at the product, not a service pack for
it.
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BillW50
In Jeff T typed:
Manufacture support is meaningless to me. And I am puzzled why more
don't understand this? Although when I start to worry is when user
support drops down to nothing. And I don't see that happening to XP for
about 25+ more years.
How long does WindowsXP have before it becomes unsupported?
Manufacture support is meaningless to me. And I am puzzled why more
don't understand this? Although when I start to worry is when user
support drops down to nothing. And I don't see that happening to XP for
about 25+ more years.
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Bert
In news:[email protected] "BillW50 said:Manufacture support is meaningless to me. And I am puzzled why more
don't understand this? Although when I start to worry is when user
support drops down to nothing. And I don't see that happening to XP
for about 25+ more years.
No more fixes for so-called "day zero" security holes that Microsoft is
still finding, but that the world-wide community of nasty folks probably
know all too well.
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BillW50
In Bert typed:
You trust your OS to protect you against zero day security holes? I
don't. I have other software that protects me against them. It doesn't
make any sense to trust OS updates to protect you against them. As it is
known that Microsoft can take up to 7 years to plug them. So I see no
useful purpose to allow security OS updates to protect one. There are so
many other better ways including some that foil all zero day attacks.
No more fixes for so-called "day zero" security holes that Microsoft
is still finding, but that the world-wide community of nasty folks
probably know all too well.
You trust your OS to protect you against zero day security holes? I
don't. I have other software that protects me against them. It doesn't
make any sense to trust OS updates to protect you against them. As it is
known that Microsoft can take up to 7 years to plug them. So I see no
useful purpose to allow security OS updates to protect one. There are so
many other better ways including some that foil all zero day attacks.
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Bert
In news:[email protected] "BillW50 said:You trust your OS to protect you against zero day security holes? I
don't. I have other software that protects me against them.
Trust one or the other.
There are so many other better ways including some that foil all zero
day attacks.
All of 'em, huh?
Well, good luck.
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BillW50
In Bert typed:
Yup, one of them is called a sandbox. Ever hear of it? Whatever is in a
sandbox stays there and can't get into your OS system.
I have been running Windows since '93 and I have never been infected
yet. Although I work on other computers all of the time and have cleaned
them up. The only close call I had was in 2001 and I did a fresh install
of Windows 2000 and all I did was to download all of the security
updates from Microsoft.
Luckily after I did I also installed an antivirus and did a scan before
a reboot to install the updates. And a BOT (I wasn't behind a firewall
back then) found my computer and slipped in a virus that would install
on the next reboot. So the antivirus killed it before it got installed.
I don't care what anybody else thinks, if I can stay clean for 20 years,
I am sticking to my methods. If somebody can do better, I am listening.
If they are worse, then why bother me.
Trust one or the other.
All of 'em, huh?
Well, good luck.
Yup, one of them is called a sandbox. Ever hear of it? Whatever is in a
sandbox stays there and can't get into your OS system.
I have been running Windows since '93 and I have never been infected
yet. Although I work on other computers all of the time and have cleaned
them up. The only close call I had was in 2001 and I did a fresh install
of Windows 2000 and all I did was to download all of the security
updates from Microsoft.
Luckily after I did I also installed an antivirus and did a scan before
a reboot to install the updates. And a BOT (I wasn't behind a firewall
back then) found my computer and slipped in a virus that would install
on the next reboot. So the antivirus killed it before it got installed.
I don't care what anybody else thinks, if I can stay clean for 20 years,
I am sticking to my methods. If somebody can do better, I am listening.
If they are worse, then why bother me.
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Bert
In news:[email protected] "BillW50 said:I don't care what anybody else thinks, if I can stay clean for 20
years, I am sticking to my methods. If somebody can do better, I am
listening. If they are worse, then why bother me.
During those 20 years, did you install the updates, patches, fixes and
new versions of software distributed by Microsoft?
Do you think that doing so was a waste of your time?
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Bert
In news:[email protected] "BillW50 said:Yup, one of them is called a sandbox. Ever hear of it? Whatever is in
a sandbox stays there and can't get into your OS system.
Unless you run inside your sandbox all the time, you're still vulnerable
to whatever your third-party protection doesn't know about yet.
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Andy
How long does WindowsXP have before it becomes unsupported?
Absolutely no need to stress.
XP will continue on until the Doh-Doh birds return.
Andy
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BillW50
In Bert typed:
I thought that way until around '07 when Microsoft and Asus forced me to
do otherwise. As Asus sold netbooks with just 4GB of disk space with XP
SP2 on them. And Microsoft sold them a license to do so. So I blame both
of them for this. And there was no way to install say SP3 without lots
of trickery and external hardware.
So I figured just making backups would be far faster and if it get
infected, just restore. Oddly enough it never got infected from not
doing security updates. This runs contrary to everything I have been
told. So since I have a lot of computers, I decided to take half of them
and not to update them. The other half I would and then see what
happens.
Oddly enough, none of them have any malware at all. The only difference
is the updated ones sometimes got screwy. Meaning sometimes an update
broke something. But the ones that wasn't updated run just fine like
they always did.
During those 20 years, did you install the updates, patches, fixes and
new versions of software distributed by Microsoft?
Do you think that doing so was a waste of your time?
I thought that way until around '07 when Microsoft and Asus forced me to
do otherwise. As Asus sold netbooks with just 4GB of disk space with XP
SP2 on them. And Microsoft sold them a license to do so. So I blame both
of them for this. And there was no way to install say SP3 without lots
of trickery and external hardware.
So I figured just making backups would be far faster and if it get
infected, just restore. Oddly enough it never got infected from not
doing security updates. This runs contrary to everything I have been
told. So since I have a lot of computers, I decided to take half of them
and not to update them. The other half I would and then see what
happens.
Oddly enough, none of them have any malware at all. The only difference
is the updated ones sometimes got screwy. Meaning sometimes an update
broke something. But the ones that wasn't updated run just fine like
they always did.
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Bert
In news:[email protected] "BillW50 said:Oddly enough it never got infected from not
doing security updates.
So far as you know, anyway.
"Microsoft: US government is an 'advanced persistent threat'"
Microsoft's EVP of Legal and Corporate Affairs outlined the
company's new data protection strategy on the basis that the US
government is an "advanced persistent threat" — a label used
for cyber criminals.
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-us-government-is-an-advanced-persistent-threat-7000024019/
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BillW50
In Bert typed:
You would think, but I have found otherwise. Just a stealth firewall and
a reliable updated antivirus is a huge help. And I have found that OS
security updates are pretty lame for protection. And if you need more, a
sandbox is the way to go.
Unless you run inside your sandbox all the time, you're still
vulnerable to whatever your third-party protection doesn't know about
yet.
You would think, but I have found otherwise. Just a stealth firewall and
a reliable updated antivirus is a huge help. And I have found that OS
security updates are pretty lame for protection. And if you need more, a
sandbox is the way to go.
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BillW50
In Bert typed:
What you are worried about government cyber attacks? I have heard rumors
that Windows 8 has NSA backdoors already installed. I never heard rumors
about earlier versions of Windows. But I don't doubt for a second that
they can't be there.
I never worried too much whether or not the government is spying on me
too much. As I never do anything illegal except going a few miles over
the speed limit. But then I heard it doesn't matter if you think you are
wrong or right. What matters is what the government thinks. Now that is
a bit scary if you ask me. As the government can change what is legal
and not whenever they want. Heck they could suddenly say flushing the
toilet at 2PM is illegal and throw me in jail or something.
So far as you know, anyway.
"Microsoft: US government is an 'advanced persistent threat'"
Microsoft's EVP of Legal and Corporate Affairs outlined the
company's new data protection strategy on the basis that the
US government is an "advanced persistent threat" - a label
used for cyber criminals.
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-us-government-is-an-advanced-persistent-threat-7000024019/
What you are worried about government cyber attacks? I have heard rumors
that Windows 8 has NSA backdoors already installed. I never heard rumors
about earlier versions of Windows. But I don't doubt for a second that
they can't be there.
I never worried too much whether or not the government is spying on me
too much. As I never do anything illegal except going a few miles over
the speed limit. But then I heard it doesn't matter if you think you are
wrong or right. What matters is what the government thinks. Now that is
a bit scary if you ask me. As the government can change what is legal
and not whenever they want. Heck they could suddenly say flushing the
toilet at 2PM is illegal and throw me in jail or something.
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Bert
In news:[email protected] "BillW50 said:As I never do anything illegal
Unlikely. You probably commit at least one federal felony every day.