How do I show what the percentage is of one figure to another?

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I am looking at turnover and don't know how to show the percentage increase
or decrease. I have done =o1/p1*100 and it does show as a percent but not
whether it is an increase or a decrease. Please help

Jane
 
Hi Jane,

My standard blurp on percentages:

=============================================================
About percentages in Excel

Niek Otten, July 26 2006

In Excel, percentages are stored as fractions; 15% is stored as 0.15, 100% as 1. That makes it easy to calculate with; just
multiply a number with a percentage and you get what you need. No need to divide/multiply by 100. In fact, if you see a
calculation with percentages which has the number 100 somewhere in the formula; be very careful, it might be wrong or at least use
percentages in a way they weren't meant to be used in Excel.
The conversion to a fraction happens automatically if you enter the % sign: if you enter "15%" (without the quotes) the
value will be 0.15 and it will be displayed as 15%. If you then enter 12 in the same cell, two things can happen: It will be the
number 12 or 12%. What happens in your case depends on a setting:
Tools>Options, Edit tab, "Enable automatic percent entry" (only Excel2000 and newer).
All built-in functions of Excel and all the functions in Analysis Toolpak use this representation of percentages: be careful
when supplying parameters to these functions; never use whole numbers (like 8), always use fractions (like 0.08 or, even better,
8%).

Frequently Asked Questions:

Q:
I have A1 and B1. How do I get C1 to show B1 as a percentage of A1?
A:
Formula in C1: =B1/A1, Format as %

Q:
I have A1 and B1. How do I show the difference as a percentage in C1?
A:
As a percentage of A1: =(B1-A1)/A1, Format as %
As a percentage of B1: =(B1-A1)/B1, Format as %
=============================================================



--
Kind regards,

Niek Otten
Microsoft MVP - Excel

|I am looking at turnover and don't know how to show the percentage increase
| or decrease. I have done =o1/p1*100 and it does show as a percent but not
| whether it is an increase or a decrease. Please help
|
| Jane
 
Hi Jim,

What do you want the percentage to be? How many % is 200.000 of zero?

Maybe you want to give "no" answer (empty cell):

=IF(A1=0,"",(B1-A1)/A1)

But something in the logic of your spreadsheet is wrong, I think, if you're trying to find out what the percentage of zero is.

Or can you give an example where this is meaningful?
--
Kind regards,

Niek Otten
Microsoft MVP - Excel

| Niek,
|
| re: As a percentage of A1: =(B1-A1)/A1, Format as % - how do you handle A1=0?
|
| Jim
|
| "Niek Otten" wrote:
|
| > Hi Jane,
| >
| > My standard blurp on percentages:
| >
| > =============================================================
| > About percentages in Excel
| >
| > Niek Otten, July 26 2006
| >
| > In Excel, percentages are stored as fractions; 15% is stored as 0.15, 100% as 1. That makes it easy to calculate with;
just
| > multiply a number with a percentage and you get what you need. No need to divide/multiply by 100. In fact, if you see a
| > calculation with percentages which has the number 100 somewhere in the formula; be very careful, it might be wrong or at least
use
| > percentages in a way they weren't meant to be used in Excel.
| > The conversion to a fraction happens automatically if you enter the % sign: if you enter "15%" (without the quotes) the
| > value will be 0.15 and it will be displayed as 15%. If you then enter 12 in the same cell, two things can happen: It will be
the
| > number 12 or 12%. What happens in your case depends on a setting:
| > Tools>Options, Edit tab, "Enable automatic percent entry" (only Excel2000 and newer).
| > All built-in functions of Excel and all the functions in Analysis Toolpak use this representation of percentages: be
careful
| > when supplying parameters to these functions; never use whole numbers (like 8), always use fractions (like 0.08 or, even
better,
| > 8%).
| >
| > Frequently Asked Questions:
| >
| > Q:
| > I have A1 and B1. How do I get C1 to show B1 as a percentage of A1?
| > A:
| > Formula in C1: =B1/A1, Format as %
| >
| > Q:
| > I have A1 and B1. How do I show the difference as a percentage in C1?
| > A:
| > As a percentage of A1: =(B1-A1)/A1, Format as %
| > As a percentage of B1: =(B1-A1)/B1, Format as %
| > =============================================================
| >
| >
| >
| > --
| > Kind regards,
| >
| > Niek Otten
| > Microsoft MVP - Excel
| >
| > |I am looking at turnover and don't know how to show the percentage increase
| > | or decrease. I have done =o1/p1*100 and it does show as a percent but not
| > | whether it is an increase or a decrease. Please help
| > |
| > | Jane
| >
| >
| >
 
Niek,

If A1 is a prior value and B1 is a current value how do *you* define the
change as a % when prior was 0? I've often thought of it as a 100% change,
but that is likely not good math theory. Just looking for your take on the
issue...

Jim
 
Hi Jim,

Such a change as a percentage is not defined.
It's not 100% either. Just not defined.
A percentage is just one way of expressing a value as a fraction of another value. And nothing, not even zero, is a defined
fraction of zero.

Think about what division means. You have a candy bar and want to divide it between 3 kids; each gets 1/3.
Now you want to divide it between no kids. How much does each of them get?
No definition for that.

--
Kind regards,

Niek Otten
Microsoft MVP - Excel


| Niek,
|
| If A1 is a prior value and B1 is a current value how do *you* define the
| change as a % when prior was 0? I've often thought of it as a 100% change,
| but that is likely not good math theory. Just looking for your take on the
| issue...
|
| Jim
|
| "Niek Otten" wrote:
|
| > Hi Jim,
| >
| > What do you want the percentage to be? How many % is 200.000 of zero?
| >
| > Maybe you want to give "no" answer (empty cell):
| >
| > =IF(A1=0,"",(B1-A1)/A1)
| >
| > But something in the logic of your spreadsheet is wrong, I think, if you're trying to find out what the percentage of zero is.
| >
| > Or can you give an example where this is meaningful?
| > --
| > Kind regards,
| >
| > Niek Otten
| > Microsoft MVP - Excel
| >
| > | Niek,
| > |
| > | re: As a percentage of A1: =(B1-A1)/A1, Format as % - how do you handle A1=0?
| > |
| > | Jim
| > |
| > | "Niek Otten" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hi Jane,
| > | >
| > | > My standard blurp on percentages:
| > | >
| > | > =============================================================
| > | > About percentages in Excel
| > | >
| > | > Niek Otten, July 26 2006
| > | >
| > | > In Excel, percentages are stored as fractions; 15% is stored as 0.15, 100% as 1. That makes it easy to calculate
with;
| > just
| > | > multiply a number with a percentage and you get what you need. No need to divide/multiply by 100. In fact, if you see a
| > | > calculation with percentages which has the number 100 somewhere in the formula; be very careful, it might be wrong or at
least
| > use
| > | > percentages in a way they weren't meant to be used in Excel.
| > | > The conversion to a fraction happens automatically if you enter the % sign: if you enter "15%" (without the quotes)
the
| > | > value will be 0.15 and it will be displayed as 15%. If you then enter 12 in the same cell, two things can happen: It will
be
| > the
| > | > number 12 or 12%. What happens in your case depends on a setting:
| > | > Tools>Options, Edit tab, "Enable automatic percent entry" (only Excel2000 and newer).
| > | > All built-in functions of Excel and all the functions in Analysis Toolpak use this representation of percentages: be
| > careful
| > | > when supplying parameters to these functions; never use whole numbers (like 8), always use fractions (like 0.08 or, even
| > better,
| > | > 8%).
| > | >
| > | > Frequently Asked Questions:
| > | >
| > | > Q:
| > | > I have A1 and B1. How do I get C1 to show B1 as a percentage of A1?
| > | > A:
| > | > Formula in C1: =B1/A1, Format as %
| > | >
| > | > Q:
| > | > I have A1 and B1. How do I show the difference as a percentage in C1?
| > | > A:
| > | > As a percentage of A1: =(B1-A1)/A1, Format as %
| > | > As a percentage of B1: =(B1-A1)/B1, Format as %
| > | > =============================================================
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Kind regards,
| > | >
| > | > Niek Otten
| > | > Microsoft MVP - Excel
| > | >
| > | > |I am looking at turnover and don't know how to show the percentage increase
| > | > | or decrease. I have done =o1/p1*100 and it does show as a percent but not
| > | > | whether it is an increase or a decrease. Please help
| > | > |
| > | > | Jane
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 
Niek,

That is certainly the correct math answer. How would you handle that issue
in an Excel report based on extracted data from another source? This would
be one line in a multi page report. I think =if(a1=0,"undefined",(b1-a1)/a1)
would produce more questions than good information.

Jim
 
Jim,

I would probably put something like "NA"; not applicable.
Or just leave it blank.
Or an exclamation mark, meaning: "Something's going on here!"


--
Kind regards,

Niek Otten
Microsoft MVP - Excel

| Niek,
|
| That is certainly the correct math answer. How would you handle that issue
| in an Excel report based on extracted data from another source? This would
| be one line in a multi page report. I think =if(a1=0,"undefined",(b1-a1)/a1)
| would produce more questions than good information.
|
| Jim
|
| "Niek Otten" wrote:
|
| > Hi Jim,
| >
| > Such a change as a percentage is not defined.
| > It's not 100% either. Just not defined.
| > A percentage is just one way of expressing a value as a fraction of another value. And nothing, not even zero, is a defined
| > fraction of zero.
| >
| > Think about what division means. You have a candy bar and want to divide it between 3 kids; each gets 1/3.
| > Now you want to divide it between no kids. How much does each of them get?
| > No definition for that.
| >
| > --
| > Kind regards,
| >
| > Niek Otten
| > Microsoft MVP - Excel
| >
| >
| > | Niek,
| > |
| > | If A1 is a prior value and B1 is a current value how do *you* define the
| > | change as a % when prior was 0? I've often thought of it as a 100% change,
| > | but that is likely not good math theory. Just looking for your take on the
| > | issue...
| > |
| > | Jim
| > |
| > | "Niek Otten" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hi Jim,
| > | >
| > | > What do you want the percentage to be? How many % is 200.000 of zero?
| > | >
| > | > Maybe you want to give "no" answer (empty cell):
| > | >
| > | > =IF(A1=0,"",(B1-A1)/A1)
| > | >
| > | > But something in the logic of your spreadsheet is wrong, I think, if you're trying to find out what the percentage of zero
is.
| > | >
| > | > Or can you give an example where this is meaningful?
| > | > --
| > | > Kind regards,
| > | >
| > | > Niek Otten
| > | > Microsoft MVP - Excel
| > | >
| > | > | Niek,
| > | > |
| > | > | re: As a percentage of A1: =(B1-A1)/A1, Format as % - how do you handle A1=0?
| > | > |
| > | > | Jim
| > | > |
| > | > | "Niek Otten" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Hi Jane,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > My standard blurp on percentages:
| > | > | >
| > | > | > =============================================================
| > | > | > About percentages in Excel
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Niek Otten, July 26 2006
| > | > | >
| > | > | > In Excel, percentages are stored as fractions; 15% is stored as 0.15, 100% as 1. That makes it easy to calculate
| > with;
| > | > just
| > | > | > multiply a number with a percentage and you get what you need. No need to divide/multiply by 100. In fact, if you see
a
| > | > | > calculation with percentages which has the number 100 somewhere in the formula; be very careful, it might be wrong or
at
| > least
| > | > use
| > | > | > percentages in a way they weren't meant to be used in Excel.
| > | > | > The conversion to a fraction happens automatically if you enter the % sign: if you enter "15%" (without the
quotes)
| > the
| > | > | > value will be 0.15 and it will be displayed as 15%. If you then enter 12 in the same cell, two things can happen: It
will
| > be
| > | > the
| > | > | > number 12 or 12%. What happens in your case depends on a setting:
| > | > | > Tools>Options, Edit tab, "Enable automatic percent entry" (only Excel2000 and newer).
| > | > | > All built-in functions of Excel and all the functions in Analysis Toolpak use this representation of
percentages: be
| > | > careful
| > | > | > when supplying parameters to these functions; never use whole numbers (like 8), always use fractions (like 0.08 or,
even
| > | > better,
| > | > | > 8%).
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Frequently Asked Questions:
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Q:
| > | > | > I have A1 and B1. How do I get C1 to show B1 as a percentage of A1?
| > | > | > A:
| > | > | > Formula in C1: =B1/A1, Format as %
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Q:
| > | > | > I have A1 and B1. How do I show the difference as a percentage in C1?
| > | > | > A:
| > | > | > As a percentage of A1: =(B1-A1)/A1, Format as %
| > | > | > As a percentage of B1: =(B1-A1)/B1, Format as %
| > | > | > =============================================================
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Kind regards,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Niek Otten
| > | > | > Microsoft MVP - Excel
| > | > | >
| > | > | > |I am looking at turnover and don't know how to show the percentage increase
| > | > | > | or decrease. I have done =o1/p1*100 and it does show as a percent but not
| > | > | > | whether it is an increase or a decrease. Please help
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Jane
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 

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