Hiberation at logon

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Thomas G. Marshall

I'm often on my laptop trying to remote-desktop into my system upstairs. I
want to turn my machine on and leave the room.

I discovered that if I just turn it on and leave it at the logon prompt,
after a few minutes something times out and the system hibernates.

1. is this normal
2. is this configurable

TIA.
 
Dixonian69 said something like:
control panel power options

or display properties.
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What does display have to do with hibernation?

I should have been more clear: I looked already at the CP power options and
didn't see anything apropos to this issue---in particular, I am set to never
standby and never hibernate. Do these options have to set as
administrator----are they admin only attributes? I am configured under my
login to be an administrator.

And this only happens at logon.
 
Maybe mikesg gave you the answer you wanted?

Power options can also be accessed thru display properties!!

Is it going into screensaver mode?

Since it is a laptop? Are there other power saving modes? Under battery or
something? Been awhile since I had a laptop.
 
mikesg said something like:

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Do you have it set to StandBY after a certain time?
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No, like I said (sorry if it was unclear).

Does the Screensaver come on?
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Nope---the time out is *much* briefer (few minutes max) than the 20 minutes
it takes for that to kick in.

Using Remote Desktop, are you able to leave it at the login prompt, and
IMMEDIATELY connect to it?
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Yes. And I believe that that may break the cycle, even if I disconnect from
RD.

What I'm asking is .. can you connect to it AT ALL while it is at the
login prompt?
Yep.


or you can for only a few minutes, then something happens
and then it stops responding?
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The problem so far is that if nothing is done to the system (no RD
connection, no logging in directly) after startup, then the system will
auto-hibernate. Further, I think that this may just be a phenomenon of
power /up/. That is, after it's been running and I've been on it in any
fashion, it'll stay at the logon screen. It's just when I do this:

1. press the on button
2. wait for coming out of hibernation
3. go off and drink diet coke
4. come back or attempt a notebook RD to it a few minutes later

....and the system is hibernated-off.

I'll continue subtle changes to this experiment, since no one seems to be
able to guess what's happening.

I'll try to report back (when I can).

Thanks.


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Dixonian69 said something like:
Maybe mikesg gave you the answer you wanted?

Power options can also be accessed thru display properties!!
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But I clarified by saying in that very same post that I am set to never
standby and never hibernate.

Given that, then are you saying there is some /other/ power config within
display that I should be looking at?


Is it going into screensaver mode?
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Nope, it autohibernates in a few minutes. SS is set at 20.

Since it is a laptop?
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No, a desktop. I wish to fire up the desktop without logging in, and *then*
RD to it from the notebook. I can live with learning to RD to it quickly,
or loggin in first at the desktop, but I shouldn't have to do that.

Are there other power saving modes? Under battery or
something? Been awhile since I had a laptop.
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It's not the laptop.


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Sorry for the confusion but you mentioned the laptop in the OP and that is
what I thought you were having problem with!!

Saw your comment about dog breeding and about posting to newsgroup. Not sure
what they are directed at. Should I be offended?

What happens when the faulty computer is used extensively or standalone?
Has it ever just shutdown?

Do you think it is actual hibernation or possibly some hardware failure?
Overheating and then shutting down to protect itself?

have you set in front of it and watched it go into hibernation?
I just preformed manual Hibernation. Have not tried auto hibernation.
Got message across, saying going into hibernate.
Of course I had to hit power button to return from hibernation.

So when you turn your on you get return from Hibernate message?
 
Dixonian69 said something like:
Sorry for the confusion but you mentioned the laptop in the OP and that is
what I thought you were having problem with!!
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Sure, ok.

Saw your comment about dog breeding and about posting to newsgroup. Not
sure
what they are directed at. Should I be offended?
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Like all signatures, they are directed to whomever trips over them.

What happens when the faulty computer is used extensively or standalone?
Has it ever just shutdown?
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The only time it has ever "just shutdown" is when I told it to, or when it
comes out of hibernation and sits at the logon prompt for a few minutes with
no interaction from me.

Do you think it is actual hibernation or possibly some hardware failure?
Overheating and then shutting down to protect itself?
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No, because I can leave the machine on for days at a time with no issue.
This is an odd phenomenon.

have you set in front of it and watched it go into hibernation?
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No, I've always just "missed it" by a minute or so. That bothers me too.

I just preformed manual Hibernation. Have not tried auto hibernation.
Got message across, saying going into hibernate.
Of course I had to hit power button to return from hibernation.

So when you turn your on you get return from Hibernate message?
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Yes.

Concerning your machine: When you power it up out of hibernation and let it
sit at the logon prompt without interaction, can it stay there forever?



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So did you try to remote access and sit in front of computer and see what
happens?

Has to be possibly something with the way you login.

or to with remote access

I found this article. don't know if it applies.
How To Turn On Remote Desktop Automatic Logon in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q281262/

I put mine in hibernate. then resumed. just sits there at login window. just
fine.

As you can see I'm grasping at straws. Maybe you're at the same point.
Since you are networked and using remote desktop, maybe the network
newsgroups have some suggestions.
 
Dixonian69 said something like:
So did you try to remote access and sit in front of computer and see what
happens?
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No. But it isn't RD since I've seen the auto-hibe-at-logon phenomenon many
times entirely without going to my notebook. "seen" meaning I've come back
to my machine to see it off.

I just verified something, and I have new data.

1. It will time out and hibernate /whenever/ it is left sitting at the
prompt, regardless as to whether or not it is the first time right after
power on.

2. While logged in as the actual "administrator", I set the screensaver and
monitor power-off to be set to 1 minute. I then watched at the logon
screen, and the screensaver bopped up, and then after a few seconds the
monitor was turned off and the system stayed running.

So I'm left with this: If the system is left on its own, after /X/ minutes
at the logon prompt, the thing will shut off. It claims to come out of
hibernation when I restart, so I'm assuming that the "shut off" just
mentioned was really a "hibernate". I will determine what the exact value
of /X/ is (in minutes).

I didn't have the patience to sit and watch it turn off yet, which is
something I /will/ do once I can sit and look at something (anything) for 5
minutes.


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