headers and footer includes

[Lisa A]

I know how to do the header for a page include, but can't figure out how to
have both a header and footer includes and still be able to work on the text
and site in between. I can't get it to work.
Lisa

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

You have to create a separate page for the header and the footer and then include both on your pages
or if using FP2003, consider using the Dynamic Web Template.

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WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

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[Lisa A]

I am using fp2003, but how do I have it where the middle of the page can be
accessed to work on and insert text.
I can't seem to do that, using both a header and a footer, only one or the
other.
thanks,
Lisa

 

[Rick Budde]

I may not be grasping your situation correctly but:

What would happen if you:

1. created a blank page,
2. inserted a one column by three row table onto it,
3. put your header include in the top row of the table
and your bottom include in the last row of the table?

Your "text" could go into the middle row of the table.

I only use FP 2002 and that is the way I would do it. The
suggestion to use DWT's is something you should also
consider since you are using FP 2003.

 

[Lisa A]

OK, I just made two pages that included 3 rows. The one page titles
header.htm and the 2nd page titled footer.htm
Then I made a new page with 3 rows and top row included header and bottome
row included footer. I think it might work, but the space for the footer and
header are huger and I can't get it to go smaller. How can I make sure it's
the height and size I want it?'
thanks so much.
Lisa

 

[=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28Crash_Gordon=AE\]

They will adjust to the size of your included page content (header.htm & footer.htm) - don't put any spaces in the table cell, just put the included page in there.

 

[Lisa A]

You mean don't put spaces in the middle blank section or just in the table
space for the header and footer.
thanks for your help.
Lisa

in message They will adjust to the size of your included page content (header.htm &
footer.htm) - don't put any spaces in the table cell, just put the included
page in there.

 

[Lawrence E. Oliver]

Lisa -

I use 'header includes' & 'footer includes' all the time in the following
manner:

1) create header page - I put mine in the 'private' folder
2) create footer page - I put mine in the 'private' folder
3) create new blank page in my project - in the main project, not in the
'private' folder
4) in the blank page, I hit <enter> 5 times to inspect 5 carriage returns.
5) place the cursor on the first carriage return indicator and insert the
'header include'
6) place the cursor after the last of the 5 carriage returns and insert the
'footer include'
7) I now have the 5 carriage return indicators to use to insert anything I
want and I can pretty it up at the end

Just the way I do it.

Larry

 

[Lisa A]

Thanks so much for the details on how to properly do this. I will give it a
try and hope to save myself time!!
Thanks!
Lisa

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Instead of using carriage returns trap your includes in tables
Best to use 3 tables (set size and alignment to suit your layout)

<div align="center">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tr><td>Insert header include here</td></tr>
</table></div>
<div align="center">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tr><td>Insert page content here</td></tr>
</table></div>
<div align="center">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tr><td>Insert footer include here</td></tr>
</table></div>



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| Lisa -
|
| I use 'header includes' & 'footer includes' all the time in the following
| manner:
|
| 1) create header page - I put mine in the 'private' folder
| 2) create footer page - I put mine in the 'private' folder
| 3) create new blank page in my project - in the main project, not in the
| 'private' folder
| 4) in the blank page, I hit <enter> 5 times to inspect 5 carriage returns.
| 5) place the cursor on the first carriage return indicator and insert the
| 'header include'
| 6) place the cursor after the last of the 5 carriage returns and insert the
| 'footer include'
| 7) I now have the 5 carriage return indicators to use to insert anything I
| want and I can pretty it up at the end
|
| Just the way I do it.
|
| Larry
|
| | >I am using fp2003, but how do I have it where the middle of the page can be
| >accessed to work on and insert text.
| > I can't seem to do that, using both a header and a footer, only one or the
| > other.
| > thanks,
| > Lisa
| > | >> You have to create a separate page for the header and the footer and then
| >> include both on your pages or if using FP2003, consider using the Dynamic
| >> Web Template.
| >>
| >> --
| >> ==============================================
| >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >> WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| >>
| >> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| >> ==============================================
| >> To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| >> http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >>
| >> | >>>I know how to do the header for a page include, but can't figure out how
| >>>to have both a header and footer includes and still be able to work on
| >>>the text and site in between. I can't get it to work.
| >>> Lisa
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Lawrence E. Oliver]

Thanks for the tip.

Larry

Instead of using carriage returns trap your includes in tables
Best to use 3 tables (set size and alignment to suit your layout)

<div align="center">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tr><td>Insert header include here</td></tr>
</table></div>
<div align="center">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tr><td>Insert page content here</td></tr>
</table></div>
<div align="center">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tr><td>Insert footer include here</td></tr>
</table></div>



--




| Lisa -
|
| I use 'header includes' & 'footer includes' all the time in the
following
| manner:
|
| 1) create header page - I put mine in the 'private' folder
| 2) create footer page - I put mine in the 'private' folder
| 3) create new blank page in my project - in the main project, not in the
| 'private' folder
| 4) in the blank page, I hit <enter> 5 times to inspect 5 carriage
returns.
| 5) place the cursor on the first carriage return indicator and insert
the
| 'header include'
| 6) place the cursor after the last of the 5 carriage returns and insert
the
| 'footer include'
| 7) I now have the 5 carriage return indicators to use to insert anything
I
| want and I can pretty it up at the end
|
| Just the way I do it.
|
| Larry
|
| | >I am using fp2003, but how do I have it where the middle of the page
can be
| >accessed to work on and insert text.
| > I can't seem to do that, using both a header and a footer, only one or
the
| > other.
| > thanks,
| > Lisa
| > | >> You have to create a separate page for the header and the footer and
then
| >> include both on your pages or if using FP2003, consider using the
Dynamic
| >> Web Template.
| >>
| >> --
| >> ==============================================
| >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >> WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| >>
| >> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| >> ==============================================
| >> To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
| >> http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >>
| >> | >>>I know how to do the header for a page include, but can't figure out
how
| >>>to have both a header and footer includes and still be able to work
on
| >>>the text and site in between. I can't get it to work.
| >>> Lisa
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Steve H]

I've never put headers and footers in tables. The includes
simply go right at the top and bottom. (Sample page:
http://www.rc10.com/feedbackresult/forms/catalogs.htm)

-----Original Message-----
Instead of using carriage returns trap your includes in tables
Best to use 3 tables (set size and alignment to suit your layout)

<div align="center">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tr><td>Insert header include here</td></tr>
</table></div>
<div align="center">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tr><td>Insert page content here</td></tr>
</table></div>
<div align="center">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tr><td>Insert footer include here</td></tr>
</table></div>



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"Lawrence E. Oliver" <[email protected]> wrote in

message news:[email protected]...

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

You don't have to trap them in tables, but you gain total control over their layout if you do (relative to other page content)

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| I've never put headers and footers in tables. The includes
| simply go right at the top and bottom. (Sample page:
| http://www.rc10.com/feedbackresult/forms/catalogs.htm)
|
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Instead of using carriage returns trap your includes in tables
| >Best to use 3 tables (set size and alignment to suit your
| layout)
| >
| ><div align="center">
| > <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
| width="100%">
| > <tr><td>Insert header include here</td></tr>
| > </table></div>
| ><div align="center">
| > <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
| width="100%">
| > <tr><td>Insert page content here</td></tr>
| > </table></div>
| ><div align="center">
| > <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
| width="100%">
| > <tr><td>Insert footer include here</td></tr>
| > </table></div>
| >
| >
| >
| >--
| >
| >_____________________________________________
| >SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| >"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| >To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >_____________________________________________
| >
| >
| message | >| Lisa -
| >|
| >| I use 'header includes' & 'footer includes' all the time
| in the following
| >| manner:
| >|
| >| 1) create header page - I put mine in the 'private' folder
| >| 2) create footer page - I put mine in the 'private' folder
| >| 3) create new blank page in my project - in the main
| project, not in the
| >| 'private' folder
| >| 4) in the blank page, I hit <enter> 5 times to inspect 5
| carriage returns.
| >| 5) place the cursor on the first carriage return
| indicator and insert the
| >| 'header include'
| >| 6) place the cursor after the last of the 5 carriage
| returns and insert the
| >| 'footer include'
| >| 7) I now have the 5 carriage return indicators to use to
| insert anything I
| >| want and I can pretty it up at the end
| >|
| >| Just the way I do it.
| >|
| >| Larry
| >|
| >| | >| >I am using fp2003, but how do I have it where the
| middle of the page can be
| >| >accessed to work on and insert text.
| >| > I can't seem to do that, using both a header and a
| footer, only one or the
| >| > other.
| >| > thanks,
| >| > Lisa
| >| > | >| >> You have to create a separate page for the header and
| the footer and then
| >| >> include both on your pages or if using FP2003,
| consider using the Dynamic
| >| >> Web Template.
| >| >>
| >| >> --
| >| >> ==============================================
| >| >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >| >> WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| >| >>
| >| >> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| >| >> ==============================================
| >| >> To assist you in getting the best answers for
| FrontPage support see:
| >| >> http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >| >>
| >| >> | >| >>>I know how to do the header for a page include, but
| can't figure out how
| >| >>>to have both a header and footer includes and still
| be able to work on
| >| >>>the text and site in between. I can't get it to work.
| >| >>> Lisa
| >| >>>
| >| >>
| >| >>
| >| >
| >| >
| >|
| >|
| >
| >
| >.
| >

 

[Lisa A]

If you don't use tables, how can I put text and the design in the middle?
thanks

You don't have to trap them in tables, but you gain total control over
their layout if you do (relative to other page content)

--




| I've never put headers and footers in tables. The includes
| simply go right at the top and bottom. (Sample page:
| http://www.rc10.com/feedbackresult/forms/catalogs.htm)
|
|
| >-----Original Message-----
| >Instead of using carriage returns trap your includes in tables
| >Best to use 3 tables (set size and alignment to suit your
| layout)
| >
| ><div align="center">
| > <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
| width="100%">
| > <tr><td>Insert header include here</td></tr>
| > </table></div>
| ><div align="center">
| > <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
| width="100%">
| > <tr><td>Insert page content here</td></tr>
| > </table></div>
| ><div align="center">
| > <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
| width="100%">
| > <tr><td>Insert footer include here</td></tr>
| > </table></div>
| >
| >
| >
| >--
| >
| >_____________________________________________
| >SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| >"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| >To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >_____________________________________________
| >
| >
| message | >| Lisa -
| >|
| >| I use 'header includes' & 'footer includes' all the time
| in the following
| >| manner:
| >|
| >| 1) create header page - I put mine in the 'private' folder
| >| 2) create footer page - I put mine in the 'private' folder
| >| 3) create new blank page in my project - in the main
| project, not in the
| >| 'private' folder
| >| 4) in the blank page, I hit <enter> 5 times to inspect 5
| carriage returns.
| >| 5) place the cursor on the first carriage return
| indicator and insert the
| >| 'header include'
| >| 6) place the cursor after the last of the 5 carriage
| returns and insert the
| >| 'footer include'
| >| 7) I now have the 5 carriage return indicators to use to
| insert anything I
| >| want and I can pretty it up at the end
| >|
| >| Just the way I do it.
| >|
| >| Larry
| >|
| >| | >| >I am using fp2003, but how do I have it where the
| middle of the page can be
| >| >accessed to work on and insert text.
| >| > I can't seem to do that, using both a header and a
| footer, only one or the
| >| > other.
| >| > thanks,
| >| > Lisa
| >| > | >| >> You have to create a separate page for the header and
| the footer and then
| >| >> include both on your pages or if using FP2003,
| consider using the Dynamic
| >| >> Web Template.
| >| >>
| >| >> --
| >| >> ==============================================
| >| >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >| >> WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| >| >>
| >| >> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| >| >> ==============================================
| >| >> To assist you in getting the best answers for
| FrontPage support see:
| >| >> http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| >| >>
| >| >> | >| >>>I know how to do the header for a page include, but
| can't figure out how
| >| >>>to have both a header and footer includes and still
| be able to work on
| >| >>>the text and site in between. I can't get it to work.
| >| >>> Lisa
| >| >>>
| >| >>
| >| >>
| >| >
| >| >
| >|
| >|
| >
| >
| >.
| >

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

You can insert an include page anywhere in page

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| If you don't use tables, how can I put text and the design in the middle?
| thanks
| | > You don't have to trap them in tables, but you gain total control over
| > their layout if you do (relative to other page content)
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > | > | I've never put headers and footers in tables. The includes
| > | simply go right at the top and bottom. (Sample page:
| > | http://www.rc10.com/feedbackresult/forms/catalogs.htm)
| > |
| > |
| > | >-----Original Message-----
| > | >Instead of using carriage returns trap your includes in tables
| > | >Best to use 3 tables (set size and alignment to suit your
| > | layout)
| > | >
| > | ><div align="center">
| > | > <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
| > | width="100%">
| > | > <tr><td>Insert header include here</td></tr>
| > | > </table></div>
| > | ><div align="center">
| > | > <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
| > | width="100%">
| > | > <tr><td>Insert page content here</td></tr>
| > | > </table></div>
| > | ><div align="center">
| > | > <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"
| > | width="100%">
| > | > <tr><td>Insert footer include here</td></tr>
| > | > </table></div>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >--
| > | >
| > | >_____________________________________________
| > | >SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | >"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | >To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | >_____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | message | > | >| Lisa -
| > | >|
| > | >| I use 'header includes' & 'footer includes' all the time
| > | in the following
| > | >| manner:
| > | >|
| > | >| 1) create header page - I put mine in the 'private' folder
| > | >| 2) create footer page - I put mine in the 'private' folder
| > | >| 3) create new blank page in my project - in the main
| > | project, not in the
| > | >| 'private' folder
| > | >| 4) in the blank page, I hit <enter> 5 times to inspect 5
| > | carriage returns.
| > | >| 5) place the cursor on the first carriage return
| > | indicator and insert the
| > | >| 'header include'
| > | >| 6) place the cursor after the last of the 5 carriage
| > | returns and insert the
| > | >| 'footer include'
| > | >| 7) I now have the 5 carriage return indicators to use to
| > | insert anything I
| > | >| want and I can pretty it up at the end
| > | >|
| > | >| Just the way I do it.
| > | >|
| > | >| Larry
| > | >|
| > | >| | > | >| >I am using fp2003, but how do I have it where the
| > | middle of the page can be
| > | >| >accessed to work on and insert text.
| > | >| > I can't seem to do that, using both a header and a
| > | footer, only one or the
| > | >| > other.
| > | >| > thanks,
| > | >| > Lisa
| > | >| > | > | >| >> You have to create a separate page for the header and
| > | the footer and then
| > | >| >> include both on your pages or if using FP2003,
| > | consider using the Dynamic
| > | >| >> Web Template.
| > | >| >>
| > | >| >> --
| > | >| >> ==============================================
| > | >| >> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | >| >> WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
| > | >| >>
| > | >| >> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
| > | >| >> ==============================================
| > | >| >> To assist you in getting the best answers for
| > | FrontPage support see:
| > | >| >> http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | >| >>
| > | >| >> | > | >| >>>I know how to do the header for a page include, but
| > | can't figure out how
| > | >| >>>to have both a header and footer includes and still
| > | be able to work on
| > | >| >>>the text and site in between. I can't get it to work.
| > | >| >>> Lisa
| > | >| >>>
| > | >| >>
| > | >| >>
| > | >| >
| > | >| >
| > | >|
| > | >|
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >.
| > | >
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Lisa A]

When using FP 2003, do I go to webcomponet, click on included content, then
the choices I have to choose are: subsitution, page, page based on schedule,
picture based on schedule or page banner.
So what do I choose to insert the header and footer. I made a separate page
for each and saved them as header and footer. So when I go to make my new
pages, what do I choose to insert the header and footers?
Thanks,
Lisa

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

You select "page" and then browse to the page header.htm and then repeat for footer.htm

Before select the option, make sure your cursor is at the point you want to insert the include. If
you set up a single page, then you can do a Save As for each new page without have to go thru the
steps of insert the header and footer include for each page.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================