Having two Administrators

[Mike B]

This relates to a discussion in another thread, but I
thought it worth splitting it off into a new thread.

Do I understand from what Sharon F is saying below that it
is sensible to leave the "hidden" Administrator account
alone (accessible only at boot time safe mode for XP
Home), and have a second Admin account which is visible at
logon (along with other regular users) for use for day-to-
day admin purposes? Password-protected of course. I was
going to delete the default admin account created on
upgrade from ME, but perhaps I shouldn't.

If I did delete it the second Admin account, would the
only option be to use the boot-time Admin for admin
purposes? When I tried going into safe-mode admin, I
noticed when going to control panel user accounts that the
regular Restricted user accounts did NOT show up. Only
the two admin accounts. Why is that, and how would I
administer regular user accounts using safe-mode Admin?

Finally, my second admin account (accessible through
normal logon) has stuff stored under "Documents and
Settings\default" no matter what I call the admin account
(i.e. folder is called default, not the name I call the
account). How do I change the name away from
just "default"? Not that important, but I don't like such
arbitrary naming. When I've tried renaming, it complains
it's a system folder required for windows operation and
cannot be changed.

Many thanks, sorry for the long post.

Mike

 

[David Candy]

The inbuilt admin can't be deleted and it will hide when a new admin account is created. Admin accounts are otherwise identical.

 

[Mike B]

Hmm, I am pretty sure that when I went into the safe-mode
admin, I noticed that in control panel user accounts the
regular Restricted user accounts did NOT show up, whereas
they do in the Admin account I get to though normal
login. Just the two admin accounts showed up in safe-mode
admin accounts setup dialog accessed through control
panel. I will double-check.

Should I not be using control panel for this... and is
there any way of getting to the "control userpasswords2"
stuff without using "Start->Run"? How come such a basic
admin function as controlling user accounts and passwords
is hidden away in a Run command and not visible in the
control panel item? Maybe I've missed something.

Any ideas on my related question about why the second
admin account folder is called "default" no matter what I
call the admin account, and how I might change that?

Mike

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The inbuilt admin can't be deleted and it will hide when

a new admin account is created. Admin accounts are
otherwise identical.

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[David Candy]

I don't have home. Userpasswords2 is shown as user accounts if joined to a domaine and userpasswords (without the 2) is shown if not. To add to CP see attached file.

The welcome screen pretends security. It actually doesn't replace NT security but pretends to type for you. EG It tells if you have a password, thus showing the password textbox, by tring to logon with a blank one. If it fails then you need to type a password (while using 1 logon attempt).

The default admin account can only be disabled (not deleted) or renamed by the local security addin in Pro. It has special treatmrnt re disabling/renaming..

 

[Mike B]

Thanks for the further help. Sorry if I'm labouring this
one, but by "default" admin are we talking about the same
thing? I have two admin accounts set up on mine ---
"Administrator" (accessible through safe mode in XP home
and "default" (accessible through normal logon, named
whatever I choose, but with a folder under D&Settings
called "default"). Are you saying my second "default"
admin cannot be deleted, only disabled? Not that I
probably want to after considering this, but any idea how
to do disable this in XP Home?

Thanks,
Mike

-----Original Message-----
I don't have home. Userpasswords2 is shown as user

accounts if joined to a domaine and userpasswords (without
the 2) is shown if not. To add to CP see attached file.

The welcome screen pretends security. It actually doesn't

replace NT security but pretends to type for you. EG It
tells if you have a password, thus showing the password
textbox, by tring to logon with a blank one. If it fails
then you need to type a password (while using 1 logon
attempt).

The default admin account can only be disabled (not

deleted) or renamed by the local security addin in Pro. It
has special treatmrnt re disabling/renaming..

--
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/29/1088392635123.ht ml

"Mike B" <[email protected]> wrote in

message news:[email protected]...

Hmm, I am pretty sure that when I went into the safe- mode
admin, I noticed that in control panel user accounts the
regular Restricted user accounts did NOT show up, whereas
they do in the Admin account I get to though normal
login. Just the two admin accounts showed up in safe- mode
admin accounts setup dialog accessed through control
panel. I will double-check.

Should I not be using control panel for this... and is
there any way of getting to the "control userpasswords2"
stuff without using "Start->Run"? How come such a basic
admin function as controlling user accounts and passwords
is hidden away in a Run command and not visible in the
control panel item? Maybe I've missed something.

Any ideas on my related question about why the second
admin account folder is called "default" no matter what I
call the admin account, and how I might change that?

Mike

-----Original Message-----
The inbuilt admin can't be deleted and it will hide

when
a new admin account is created. Admin accounts are
otherwise identical.http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/29/1088392635123.ht

ml

"Mike B" <[email protected]> wrote

in
message news:[email protected]...

This relates to a discussion in another thread, but I
thought it worth splitting it off into a new thread.

Do I understand from what Sharon F is saying below

that
it

is sensible to leave the "hidden" Administrator account
alone (accessible only at boot time safe mode for XP
Home), and have a second Admin account which is

visible
at

logon (along with other regular users) for use for

day-
to-

day admin purposes? Password-protected of course.

I
was

going to delete the default admin account created on
upgrade from ME, but perhaps I shouldn't.

If I did delete it the second Admin account, would the
only option be to use the boot-time Admin for admin
purposes? When I tried going into safe-mode admin, I
noticed when going to control panel user accounts

that
the

regular Restricted user accounts did NOT show up. Only
the two admin accounts. Why is that, and how would I
administer regular user accounts using safe-mode Admin?

Finally, my second admin account (accessible through
normal logon) has stuff stored under "Documents and
Settings\default" no matter what I call the admin account
(i.e. folder is called default, not the name I call the
account). How do I change the name away from
just "default"? Not that important, but I don't

like
such

arbitrary naming. When I've tried renaming, it complains
it's a system folder required for windows operation and
cannot be changed.

Many thanks, sorry for the long post.

Mike



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