Have you gone PCI Express?

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If you have, what are thoughts on the technology?...has it changed the
manner in which you use your PC?


More important, have you experinced any performance increase??
 
If you have, what are thoughts on the technology?...has it changed the
manner in which you use your PC?


More important, have you experinced any performance increase??
There is no performance to be gained from going to PCI-E at this point
in the ball game. Even 8X AGP isn't being maxed out yet and there is
very little to be gained in 8X AGP over 4X AGP.
 
Bass said:
There is no performance to be gained from going to PCI-E at this point
in the ball game. Even 8X AGP isn't being maxed out yet and there is
very little to be gained in 8X AGP over 4X AGP.

Is PCI-E limited only to video? What about things like ethernet cards where
the PCI bus is starting to become the limitation?
 
Rob said:
Is PCI-E limited only to video? What about things like ethernet cards
where
the PCI bus is starting to become the limitation?

And sound cards, Creative are releasing a brand new PCI-E sound card with
new architecture in March 2005.

I have decided to go PCI-E for this reason, new motherboards already come
equiped with SATA II and PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet, sound cards and graphic
cards are all going the same way.

Time to dump my GA-8KNXP and move over to nForce 4!!!
 
Richard Dower said:
And sound cards, Creative are releasing a brand new PCI-E sound card with
new architecture in March 2005.

I have decided to go PCI-E for this reason, new motherboards already come
equiped with SATA II and PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet, sound cards and graphic
cards are all going the same way.

Time to dump my GA-8KNXP and move over to nForce 4!!!

That's a nice board! I'll trade you my Intel D845HV dog for it :).
 
Is PCI-E limited only to video? What about things like ethernet cards where
the PCI bus is starting to become the limitation?
PCI-E for video is 16X
PCI-E for other periphs is 1X
 
Bass said:
PCI-E for video is 16X
PCI-E for other periphs is 1X

And a 1x lane is still 250MB/s bandwith. Almost double the entire bandwidth
of the entire PCI bus!!!!
 
Ruel Smith said:
Are there PCI-E cards out for the 1X slots, yet?

Yes, you can get intergrated PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet and stand alone cards,
sound cards coming soon and i am sure more will be added like Firewire and
USB cards.
 
Is PCI-E limited only to video? What about things like ethernet cards where
PCI-E for video is 16X
PCI-E for other periphs is 1X

I don't know anything about PCI-e, so I've got a question. As I
understand it, the PCI-e slots will take over the regular PCI
slots on the motherboard, right? Will they be backward compatible?
Will I be able to stick a regular PCI card into a PCI-e slot, and
expect it to work as usual?
 
Al Smith said:
I don't know anything about PCI-e, so I've got a question. As I understand
it, the PCI-e slots will take over the regular PCI slots on the
motherboard, right? Will they be backward compatible? Will I be able to
stick a regular PCI card into a PCI-e slot, and expect it to work as
usual?


No.
 
Al Smith said:
Well that sucks. Now I'm pouting.

PCI-E motherboards come equiped with PCI slots still, it's gonna be like the
migration we saw with ISA and having two slots as a kinda legacy thing with
a further 3 PCI slots.

The same will happen with PCI-E, you'll have normal PCI slots on board for a
couple of years before they disappear. And i surely won't miss seeing those
PS/2 ports, Parallel and Serial ports all disappear from motherboards.

I mean, does anyone actually use the Parallel and Serial ports anymore?,
they just hog system resources and i just disable them suckers.
 
I don't know anything about PCI-e, so I've got a question. As I
PCI-E motherboards come equiped with PCI slots still, it's gonna be like the
migration we saw with ISA and having two slots as a kinda legacy thing with
a further 3 PCI slots.

The same will happen with PCI-E, you'll have normal PCI slots on board for a
couple of years before they disappear. And i surely won't miss seeing those
PS/2 ports, Parallel and Serial ports all disappear from motherboards.

I mean, does anyone actually use the Parallel and Serial ports anymore?,
they just hog system resources and i just disable them suckers.

If there are legacy PCI slots available, that might work -- as
long as they follow the ISA model, and provide enough slots of
both types. And they should keep the AGP slot for a while, also. I
use the parallel port for my printer and ZIP drive. I always hear
about people having problems with USB printers but my parallel
port printer is pretty reliable. Serial port I'm using for my Palm
cradle. But I guess USB has progress far enough that we can think
about giving up the older ports. I'm just not in any particular rush.
 
If there are legacy PCI slots available, that might work -- as
long as they follow the ISA model, and provide enough slots of
both types. And they should keep the AGP slot for a while, also. I
use the parallel port for my printer and ZIP drive. I always hear
about people having problems with USB printers but my parallel
port printer is pretty reliable. Serial port I'm using for my Palm
cradle. But I guess USB has progress far enough that we can think
about giving up the older ports. I'm just not in any particular rush.

I run my printer and scanner daisy chained on the parallel port.
My external modem runs off a serial port.
In the past I ran utils that would transfer files between computers
via the serial port, and there are still some wireless LANs that run
equipment from the serial port. And then there are dongles running from the
serial port....
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My Garmin GPS III+ is a serial GPS. Big bucks to replace that.

Overlord said:
If there are legacy PCI slots available, that might work -- as
long as they follow the ISA model, and provide enough slots of
both types. And they should keep the AGP slot for a while, also. I
use the parallel port for my printer and ZIP drive. I always hear
about people having problems with USB printers but my parallel
port printer is pretty reliable. Serial port I'm using for my Palm
cradle. But I guess USB has progress far enough that we can think
about giving up the older ports. I'm just not in any particular rush.

I run my printer and scanner daisy chained on the parallel port.
My external modem runs off a serial port.
In the past I ran utils that would transfer files between computers
via the serial port, and there are still some wireless LANs that run
equipment from the serial port. And then there are dongles running from
the
serial port....
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Bait for spammers:
root@localhost
postmaster@localhost
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I mean, does anyone actually use the Parallel and Serial ports anymore?,
they just hog system resources and i just disable them suckers.

If you disable them in the bios then they are not hogging any
resources. Some people may still use them but I don't.
 
If there are legacy PCI slots available, that might work -- as
long as they follow the ISA model, and provide enough slots of
both types. And they should keep the AGP slot for a while, also. I
use the parallel port for my printer and ZIP drive. I always hear
about people having problems with USB printers but my parallel
port printer is pretty reliable. Serial port I'm using for my Palm
cradle. But I guess USB has progress far enough that we can think
about giving up the older ports. I'm just not in any particular rush.

I've never had a probelm with USB printers, and I own two of them.
They are no more problematic than parrallel port printers.
 
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