FTPpie site size checker

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In order to get program FTPpie to work I have to shutdown Windows firewall.
"Allowing" FTPpie access through the firewall is not enough.
Any idea?
 
In order to get program FTPpie to work I have to shutdown Windows firewall.
"Allowing" FTPpie access through the firewall is not enough.
Any idea?

You aren't allowing it the access it needs? (I don't know the
program, so I don't know what it needs - or even what it is.)

However, Windows Firewall isn't particularly careful about doing what
you tell it to do.
 
Al said:
You aren't allowing it the access it needs? (I don't know the
program, so I don't know what it needs - or even what it is.)

AFAIK this app is one of a kind. . . it's also Pricelessware

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2006/PL2006INTERNET.php#0271-PW

FTPpie
Company: -- Author: David Taylor
(Freeware) (free for personal use)
Windows OS: Windows NOTES: Requires Delphi runtime library. No
installation required.
Languages: English
Description: Your ISP offers you 30MB of disk space, but doesn't tell
you how much space is used! This tool enables you to get a usage
piechart from your FTP service, showing which directories are taking the
most space, and to drill down into those directories to see which are
the largest files. Simply double-click on a pie segment to drill down!
Home page:
http://www.david-taylor.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
Program description; download v 1.4.0 (2003-03-26) [ ftppie140.zip (248 KB)]
http://www.david-taylor.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/software/net.htm
2006PL CD files: ftppie140.zip

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In order to get program FTPpie to work I have to shutdown Windows
firewall. "Allowing" FTPpie access through the firewall is not
enough. Any idea?

Disable Windows firewall and go with Sygate or ZoneAlarm?
 
Disable Windows firewall and go with Sygate or ZoneAlarm?

That's all very well and I understand what you mean, but using either of
these puts up requests for permissions to allow in/out stuff which I don't
recognise. Windows XP Firewall on the other hand lets nothing in and I don't
worry what it lets out 'cos my pc is clean.
 
AFAIK this app is one of a kind. . . it's also Pricelessware

Nice program. (I'd use FileZilla, but ... :) )

Still no idea what ports, other than 21, it might need. Maybe an
email to the author? Or a "package" to Redmond, to discourage things
like Windows Firewall?
 
That's all very well and I understand what you mean, but using either of
these puts up requests for permissions to allow in/out stuff which I don't
recognise. Windows XP Firewall on the other hand lets nothing in and I don't
worry what it lets out 'cos my pc is clean.

If you're only worried about 'in', run a good router.
 
Al said:
Still no idea what ports, other than 21, it might need. Maybe an
email to the author? Or a "package" to Redmond, to discourage things
like Windows Firewall?

Haven't tested it yet as I have no ISP hosted FTP to check it out on,
but if works with the firewall disabled, but not enabled, I'd suggest
that it is making an active FTP connection rather than a passive one.

Quick trivia - FTP requires 2 connections, a control and a data
connection. For an normal FTP connection the FTP server connects back
to you on the data port your client sets up, passive = you make both
connections to the FTP server. Active is less hassle for an FTP server
admin, passive is less hassle for the FTP user.

More details here - http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html

Unfortunately, FTPpie doesn't appear to have an option to select passive
mode, so I'd hazard a guess it's using active FTP. I'd suggest punching
a hole in Windows Firewall on port 20.

"Adding the port exception
1. Click Start, click Run, type Wscui.cpl, and then click OK to open
Windows Firewall.
2. Click the Exceptions tab, and then click Add Port to display the Add
a Port dialog box.
3. Enter the port number that your program uses.
4. Select the TCP or UDP protocol, depending upon what your program uses.
5. In the Name field, type a descriptive name for the port.
6. Click Change Scope to view or to set the scope for the port
exception, and then click OK.
7. Click OK to close the Add a Port dialog box.
8. To verify that the port settings are correct for your program, test
the program."

HTH

Ben
 
Susan said:
AFAIK this app is one of a kind. . . it's also Pricelessware

One of two of a kind :)

FTP Space 1.1

This application can scan an FTP account to total up how much space
you're using, and give a detailed list of which folders are using the
most space. Handy for limited space accounts!

http://www.gullen.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/noz/ftpspace.html
http://www.gullen.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/files/FTPspace_install_11.exe

Just given both a whirl and FTP Space feels a bit more polished than
FTPpie, but doesn't have options for switching between units that FTPpie
does. FTP Space takes a different approach to displaying the directory
info (tabular form rather than clicky pie) which I find quicker to
appraise. Neither have any passive/active FTP option :(

Ben
 
One of two of a kind :)

FTP Space 1.1

This application can scan an FTP account to total up how much space
you're using, and give a detailed list of which folders are using the
most space. Handy for limited space accounts!

http://www.gullen.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/noz/ftpspace.html
http://www.gullen.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/files/FTPspace_install_11.exe

Just given both a whirl and FTP Space feels a bit more polished than
FTPpie, but doesn't have options for switching between units that FTPpie
does. FTP Space takes a different approach to displaying the directory
info (tabular form rather than clicky pie) which I find quicker to
appraise. Neither have any passive/active FTP option :(

Ben

Hi Ben
I have just run FTP space which, while looking good, tells me that I have
actually used 2.5x my limit which cannot be true.
On the bright side Windows Firewall didn't block it :o?
 
Jim said:
Hi Ben
I have just run FTP space which, while looking good, tells me that I have
actually used 2.5x my limit which cannot be true.

Doh! It seems to be accurate here - I set up an FTP on my Linux box and
connected to my home directory. Count is 91mb via FTP Space, 91mb via
FTPpie and 102mb when I log in manually and check with du - I assume
neither FTP Space or FTPpie can count hidden files.

Are you definitely scanning the same path/directory on the server in
both apps?

Ben
 
Doh! It seems to be accurate here - I set up an FTP on my Linux box and
connected to my home directory. Count is 91mb via FTP Space, 91mb via
FTPpie and 102mb when I log in manually and check with du - I assume
neither FTP Space or FTPpie can count hidden files.

Are you definitely scanning the same path/directory on the server in
both apps?

Ben

Yes.
I installed Filezilla, SmartFTP and already had Frontpage.
With FZ and Smart you need pencil and paper but they and FP all tell me
~8.5Mb. FTPpie says 12+ and FTPspace 25+
Sigh!
 
Jim said:
I installed Filezilla, SmartFTP and already had Frontpage.
With FZ and Smart you need pencil and paper but they and FP all tell me
~8.5Mb. FTPpie says 12+ and FTPspace 25+
Sigh!

If you're interested enough to get to the bottom of this, why not
download your complete FTP directory back into a different directory on
your HD and check the actual size. It would be nice to know which of
the 3 programs was closest to correct for future reference... If you're
not on dialup, this shouldn't be too painful even if it actually is 25mb
of files.

One other non chart based solution is FTPCheck, available from
http://www.deepsleep.de/page2/page2.html
http://www.deepsleep.de/download/ftpcheck103.exe

This also gives a total of 91mb on the test directory I mentioned.

HTH

Ben
 
If you're interested enough to get to the bottom of this, why not
download your complete FTP directory back into a different directory on
your HD and check the actual size. It would be nice to know which of
the 3 programs was closest to correct for future reference... If you're
not on dialup, this shouldn't be too painful even if it actually is 25mb
of files.

One other non chart based solution is FTPCheck, available from
http://www.deepsleep.de/page2/page2.html
http://www.deepsleep.de/download/ftpcheck103.exe

This also gives a total of 91mb on the test directory I mentioned.

HTH

Ben

Could not access either of those links, but I did download the whole site to
find it was 8.4Mb - the lowest so far.
I'm beginning to think that hidden files on my webspace are included in my
total for their purposes.
 
Jim said:
Could not access either of those links, but I did download the whole site to
find it was 8.4Mb - the lowest so far.
I'm beginning to think that hidden files on my webspace are included in my
total for their purposes.

Odd, the links definitely work - just redownloaded ftpcheck103.exe to be
sure. It seems odd that all 3 programs reported approximately the same
total for me but such a variation for you. Maybe it's also down to the
FTP server in some way... Any ideas if your hosting is on a Windows or
*nix FTP server?

B
 
Ben said:
Odd, the links definitely work - just redownloaded ftpcheck103.exe to be
sure. It seems odd that all 3 programs reported approximately the same
total for me but such a variation for you. Maybe it's also down to the
FTP server in some way... Any ideas if your hosting is on a Windows or
*nix FTP server?

I was thinking along those lines too. . .

from v 1.4 "FTPpie.txt"

<q>
If you know the cluster size of the operating system that your ISP uses
to store your Web pages, you can get a more accurate space estimate by
setting the cluster size from the Options, Cluster size menu. Typically
this will be 4096 (Windows server) or 8192 (UNIX server). The program
approximates the effect of cluster size by adding half the cluster size
to each file found, so your results may not agree byte-for-byte with
your ISP.
</q>

Thanks for the info about FTP Space. :)

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Could not access either of those links, but I did download the whole site to
find it was 8.4Mb - the lowest so far.
I'm beginning to think that hidden files on my webspace are included in my
total for their purposes.

Got FTPcheck which gives me the same as SmartFTP (and a pen) AND Frontpage.
FTPspace gives me nonsense as does FTPpie.
I'll quit while I'm ahead on this one I think.
Now all I have to do is find out why my server says it's full :o(
 
One of two of a kind :)

FTP Space 1.1

This application can scan an FTP account to total up how much space
you're using, and give a detailed list of which folders are using the
most space. Handy for limited space accounts!

http://www.gullen.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/noz/ftpspace.html
http://www.gullen.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/files/FTPspace_install_11.exe

Just given both a whirl and FTP Space feels a bit more polished than
FTPpie, but doesn't have options for switching between units that FTPpie
does. FTP Space takes a different approach to displaying the directory
info (tabular form rather than clicky pie) which I find quicker to
appraise. Neither have any passive/active FTP option :(

Ben

Thanks for this link :-). I use FTPpie, but will check this one out also.

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Hi Jim,

Got FTPcheck which gives me the same as SmartFTP (and a pen) AND Frontpage.
FTPspace gives me nonsense as does FTPpie.
I'll quit while I'm ahead on this one I think.
Now all I have to do is find out why my server says it's full :o(

It is probably full due to you having an email folder full of spam
that you didn't even know you had.

Do you have CPanel on your hosting server ? If so it will list file
sizes etc. Go to : CPanel>>Files>>Disc Usage>>Show Top Level

Regards, John.


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Hi Jim,



It is probably full due to you having an email folder full of spam
that you didn't even know you had.

Do you have CPanel on your hosting server ? If so it will list file
sizes etc. Go to : CPanel>>Files>>Disc Usage>>Show Top Level

Regards, John.

Hi John
On my ftp server?
If yes, then no I haven't got CPanel.
 
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