Freaking Machines STILL Not Keeping Correct Time

[Absolutely]

Did all the necessary DST updates on my XP and 2000 boxes and some of them
will still not keep time correctly. Any secrets to this mess?

 

[Pappy]

Give me some more details about your network, and I may be able to
help.

 

[Absolutely]

Nothing fancy. 2 2k domain controllers with 5 other member servers (all
SP4). All workstations are XP Pro SP2. DST updates have been applied to
all. Servers keep time correctly, but some workstations don't. Used tzedit
to see if the start/stop of DST was correct for the time zone on the problem
machines and it is.

 

[John John]

What does the w32tm /tz command return on those borked machines? Run
the command at the Command Prompt.

John

 

[Absolutely]

Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_DAYLIGHT Bias: 300min (UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:11 D:1 DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:3 D:2 DoW:0)]

 

[John John]

It looks like the proper setings for the Eastern Time Zone. I would try
a third party solution on one machine to see if it fixes things at the
workstation/client level. I would suggest the Intelliadmin patch.

John

Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_DAYLIGHT Bias: 300min (UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:11 D:1 DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:3 D:2 DoW:0)]

What does the w32tm /tz command return on those borked machines? Run the
command at the Command Prompt.

John

Absolutely wrote:

 

[Absolutely]

Intelliadmin patch didn't work either.

It looks like the proper setings for the Eastern Time Zone. I would try a
third party solution on one machine to see if it fixes things at the
workstation/client level. I would suggest the Intelliadmin patch.

John

Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_DAYLIGHT Bias: 300min
(UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:11 D:1 DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:3 D:2
DoW:0)]

What does the w32tm /tz command return on those borked machines? Run
the command at the Command Prompt.

John

Absolutely wrote:


Nothing fancy. 2 2k domain controllers with 5 other member servers (all
SP4). All workstations are XP Pro SP2. DST updates have been applied
to all. Servers keep time correctly, but some workstations don't. Used
tzedit to see if the start/stop of DST was correct for the time zone on
the problem machines and it is.




Give me some more details about your network, and I may be able to
help.

 

[John John]

There are more reports of this problem appearing all over the place,
apparently Microsoft is "investigating" the problem. I can't suggest
anything concrete. I would start verifying things at the root of the
time service and work my way down. You might want to ask the folks here
and see what they have to say about it:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/chats/default.mspx

John

Intelliadmin patch didn't work either.

It looks like the proper setings for the Eastern Time Zone. I would try a
third party solution on one machine to see if it fixes things at the
workstation/client level. I would suggest the Intelliadmin patch.

John

Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_DAYLIGHT Bias: 300min
(UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:11 D:1 DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:3 D:2
DoW:0)]




What does the w32tm /tz command return on those borked machines? Run
the command at the Command Prompt.

John

Absolutely wrote:



Nothing fancy. 2 2k domain controllers with 5 other member servers (all
SP4). All workstations are XP Pro SP2. DST updates have been applied
to all. Servers keep time correctly, but some workstations don't. Used
tzedit to see if the start/stop of DST was correct for the time zone on
the problem machines and it is.





Give me some more details about your network, and I may be able to
help.

 

[Absolutely]

Intelliadmin patch didn't do it either.

It looks like the proper setings for the Eastern Time Zone. I would try a
third party solution on one machine to see if it fixes things at the
workstation/client level. I would suggest the Intelliadmin patch.

John

Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_DAYLIGHT Bias: 300min
(UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:11 D:1 DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:3 D:2
DoW:0)]

What does the w32tm /tz command return on those borked machines? Run
the command at the Command Prompt.

John

Absolutely wrote:


Nothing fancy. 2 2k domain controllers with 5 other member servers (all
SP4). All workstations are XP Pro SP2. DST updates have been applied
to all. Servers keep time correctly, but some workstations don't. Used
tzedit to see if the start/stop of DST was correct for the time zone on
the problem machines and it is.




Give me some more details about your network, and I may be able to
help.

 

[Absolutely]

What I ultimately did was set the machine time back 2 hours and then let it
'catch up' on it's own an hour. Seems to be holding there that way, but
still not sure if this is a sure fix.

Intelliadmin patch didn't do it either.

It looks like the proper setings for the Eastern Time Zone. I would try
a third party solution on one machine to see if it fixes things at the
workstation/client level. I would suggest the Intelliadmin patch.

John

Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_DAYLIGHT Bias: 300min
(UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:11 D:1
DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:3 D:2
DoW:0)]



What does the w32tm /tz command return on those borked machines? Run
the command at the Command Prompt.

John

Absolutely wrote:


Nothing fancy. 2 2k domain controllers with 5 other member servers
(all SP4). All workstations are XP Pro SP2. DST updates have been
applied to all. Servers keep time correctly, but some workstations
don't. Used tzedit to see if the start/stop of DST was correct for the
time zone on the problem machines and it is.




Give me some more details about your network, and I may be able to
help.

 

[John John]

I would start at the Time Service Root (PDC Emulator) and work my way
down. Make sure that ONLY the PDCe synchronizes outside or to the
hardware clock and then make sure that the DC's and member servers
synchronize to the PDCe.
http://search.microsoft.com/results...=0&SearchBtn0=Search&FORM=QBME1&l=1&mkt=en-US

John

What I ultimately did was set the machine time back 2 hours and then let it
'catch up' on it's own an hour. Seems to be holding there that way, but
still not sure if this is a sure fix.

Intelliadmin patch didn't do it either.

It looks like the proper setings for the Eastern Time Zone. I would try
a third party solution on one machine to see if it fixes things at the
workstation/client level. I would suggest the Intelliadmin patch.

John

Absolutely wrote:

Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_DAYLIGHT Bias: 300min
(UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:11 D:1
DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:3 D:2
DoW:0)]




What does the w32tm /tz command return on those borked machines? Run
the command at the Command Prompt.

John

Absolutely wrote:



Nothing fancy. 2 2k domain controllers with 5 other member servers
(all SP4). All workstations are XP Pro SP2. DST updates have been
applied to all. Servers keep time correctly, but some workstations
don't. Used tzedit to see if the start/stop of DST was correct for the
time zone on the problem machines and it is.





Give me some more details about your network, and I may be able to
help.

 

[Absolutely]

Ok, I set the only DC to be the SNTP master and it is set to sync it's clock
with ntp0.cornell.edu. How do I now force the workstations to sync with the
master?

When I query

It looks like the proper setings for the Eastern Time Zone. I would try a
third party solution on one machine to see if it fixes things at the
workstation/client level. I would suggest the Intelliadmin patch.

John

Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_DAYLIGHT Bias: 300min
(UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:11 D:1 DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:3 D:2
DoW:0)]

What does the w32tm /tz command return on those borked machines? Run
the command at the Command Prompt.

John

Absolutely wrote:


Nothing fancy. 2 2k domain controllers with 5 other member servers (all
SP4). All workstations are XP Pro SP2. DST updates have been applied
to all. Servers keep time correctly, but some workstations don't. Used
tzedit to see if the start/stop of DST was correct for the time zone on
the problem machines and it is.




Give me some more details about your network, and I may be able to
help.

 

[John John]

HOW TO: Synchronize the Time with the Windows Time Service
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307897/EN-US/

Using the NET TIME Command to Synchronize Windows XP Workstations
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314090/EN-US/

John

Ok, I set the only DC to be the SNTP master and it is set to sync it's clock
with ntp0.cornell.edu. How do I now force the workstations to sync with the
master?

When I query

It looks like the proper setings for the Eastern Time Zone. I would try a
third party solution on one machine to see if it fixes things at the
workstation/client level. I would suggest the Intelliadmin patch.

John

Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_DAYLIGHT Bias: 300min
(UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:11 D:1 DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:3 D:2
DoW:0)]




What does the w32tm /tz command return on those borked machines? Run
the command at the Command Prompt.

John

Absolutely wrote:



Nothing fancy. 2 2k domain controllers with 5 other member servers (all
SP4). All workstations are XP Pro SP2. DST updates have been applied
to all. Servers keep time correctly, but some workstations don't. Used
tzedit to see if the start/stop of DST was correct for the time zone on
the problem machines and it is.





Give me some more details about your network, and I may be able to
help.

 

[John John]

PS:

At a Command Prompt issue:

net stop w32time
w32tm /unregister
w32tm /unregister
w32tm /register
net start w32time

NOTE: Issue w32tm /unregister twice, as above. After issuing the
commands, in the registry the "Type" should be Nt5DS .

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time\Parameters

(REG_SZ) Value Name: Type
Value Data: Nt5DS

http://www.pctools.com/guides/registry/detail/1118/

John

HOW TO: Synchronize the Time with the Windows Time Service
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307897/EN-US/

Using the NET TIME Command to Synchronize Windows XP Workstations
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314090/EN-US/

John

Ok, I set the only DC to be the SNTP master and it is set to sync it's
clock with ntp0.cornell.edu. How do I now force the workstations to
sync with the master?

When I query

It looks like the proper setings for the Eastern Time Zone. I would
try a third party solution on one machine to see if it fixes things
at the workstation/client level. I would suggest the Intelliadmin
patch.

John

Absolutely wrote:

Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_DAYLIGHT Bias: 300min
(UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:11 D:1
DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:3 D:2
DoW:0)]




What does the w32tm /tz command return on those borked machines?
Run the command at the Command Prompt.

John

Absolutely wrote:



Nothing fancy. 2 2k domain controllers with 5 other member
servers (all SP4). All workstations are XP Pro SP2. DST updates
have been applied to all. Servers keep time correctly, but some
workstations don't. Used tzedit to see if the start/stop of DST
was correct for the time zone on the problem machines and it is.





Give me some more details about your network, and I may be able to
help.

 

[Kelly]

For English Systems see line: 392 then reset your time zone:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

Taskbar Repair Tool
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm

Ok, I set the only DC to be the SNTP master and it is set to sync it's
clock with ntp0.cornell.edu. How do I now force the workstations to sync
with the master?

When I query

It looks like the proper setings for the Eastern Time Zone. I would try
a third party solution on one machine to see if it fixes things at the
workstation/client level. I would suggest the Intelliadmin patch.

John

Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_DAYLIGHT Bias: 300min
(UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:11 D:1
DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:3 D:2
DoW:0)]



What does the w32tm /tz command return on those borked machines? Run
the command at the Command Prompt.

John

Absolutely wrote:


Nothing fancy. 2 2k domain controllers with 5 other member servers
(all SP4). All workstations are XP Pro SP2. DST updates have been
applied to all. Servers keep time correctly, but some workstations
don't. Used tzedit to see if the start/stop of DST was correct for the
time zone on the problem machines and it is.




Give me some more details about your network, and I may be able to
help.

 

[Absolutely]

Get access denied when trying to unregister. I'm an admin.

PS:

At a Command Prompt issue:

net stop w32time
w32tm /unregister
w32tm /unregister
w32tm /register
net start w32time

NOTE: Issue w32tm /unregister twice, as above. After issuing the
commands, in the registry the "Type" should be Nt5DS .

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time\Parameters

(REG_SZ) Value Name: Type
Value Data: Nt5DS

http://www.pctools.com/guides/registry/detail/1118/

John

HOW TO: Synchronize the Time with the Windows Time Service
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307897/EN-US/

Using the NET TIME Command to Synchronize Windows XP Workstations
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314090/EN-US/

John

Ok, I set the only DC to be the SNTP master and it is set to sync it's
clock with ntp0.cornell.edu. How do I now force the workstations to
sync with the master?

When I query

It looks like the proper setings for the Eastern Time Zone. I would
try a third party solution on one machine to see if it fixes things at
the workstation/client level. I would suggest the Intelliadmin patch.

John

Absolutely wrote:

Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_DAYLIGHT Bias: 300min
(UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:11 D:1
DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:3 D:2
DoW:0)]




What does the w32tm /tz command return on those borked machines?
Run the command at the Command Prompt.

John

Absolutely wrote:



Nothing fancy. 2 2k domain controllers with 5 other member servers
(all SP4). All workstations are XP Pro SP2. DST updates have been
applied to all. Servers keep time correctly, but some workstations
don't. Used tzedit to see if the start/stop of DST was correct for
the time zone on the problem machines and it is.





Give me some more details about your network, and I may be able to
help.

 

[Absolutely]

Have done the registry thing. Still doesn't keep time correctly.

For English Systems see line: 392 then reset your time zone:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm

--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP/DTS&XP)

Taskbar Repair Tool
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/taskbarplus!.htm

Ok, I set the only DC to be the SNTP master and it is set to sync it's
clock with ntp0.cornell.edu. How do I now force the workstations to sync
with the master?

When I query

It looks like the proper setings for the Eastern Time Zone. I would try
a third party solution on one machine to see if it fixes things at the
workstation/client level. I would suggest the Intelliadmin patch.

John

Absolutely wrote:
Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_DAYLIGHT Bias: 300min
(UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:11 D:1
DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:3 D:2
DoW:0)]



What does the w32tm /tz command return on those borked machines? Run
the command at the Command Prompt.

John

Absolutely wrote:


Nothing fancy. 2 2k domain controllers with 5 other member servers
(all SP4). All workstations are XP Pro SP2. DST updates have been
applied to all. Servers keep time correctly, but some workstations
don't. Used tzedit to see if the start/stop of DST was correct for
the time zone on the problem machines and it is.




Give me some more details about your network, and I may be able to
help.

 

[Absolutely]

Well, tried it again a few minutes later and it let me do it.

Get access denied when trying to unregister. I'm an admin.

PS:

At a Command Prompt issue:

net stop w32time
w32tm /unregister
w32tm /unregister
w32tm /register
net start w32time

NOTE: Issue w32tm /unregister twice, as above. After issuing the
commands, in the registry the "Type" should be Nt5DS .

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time\Parameters

(REG_SZ) Value Name: Type
Value Data: Nt5DS

http://www.pctools.com/guides/registry/detail/1118/

John

HOW TO: Synchronize the Time with the Windows Time Service
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307897/EN-US/

Using the NET TIME Command to Synchronize Windows XP Workstations
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314090/EN-US/

John

Absolutely wrote:

Ok, I set the only DC to be the SNTP master and it is set to sync it's
clock with ntp0.cornell.edu. How do I now force the workstations to
sync with the master?

When I query

It looks like the proper setings for the Eastern Time Zone. I would
try a third party solution on one machine to see if it fixes things at
the workstation/client level. I would suggest the Intelliadmin patch.

John

Absolutely wrote:

Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_DAYLIGHT Bias: 300min
(UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:11 D:1
DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:3 D:2
DoW:0)]




What does the w32tm /tz command return on those borked machines?
Run the command at the Command Prompt.

John

Absolutely wrote:



Nothing fancy. 2 2k domain controllers with 5 other member servers
(all SP4). All workstations are XP Pro SP2. DST updates have been
applied to all. Servers keep time correctly, but some workstations
don't. Used tzedit to see if the start/stop of DST was correct for
the time zone on the problem machines and it is.





Give me some more details about your network, and I may be able to
help.

 

[John John]

You get it (access denied) the first time but it should go through the
second time, that is why it says to do it twice.

John

Get access denied when trying to unregister. I'm an admin.

PS:

At a Command Prompt issue:

net stop w32time
w32tm /unregister
w32tm /unregister
w32tm /register
net start w32time

NOTE: Issue w32tm /unregister twice, as above. After issuing the
commands, in the registry the "Type" should be Nt5DS .

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time\Parameters

(REG_SZ) Value Name: Type
Value Data: Nt5DS

http://www.pctools.com/guides/registry/detail/1118/

John

John John wrote:

HOW TO: Synchronize the Time with the Windows Time Service
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307897/EN-US/

Using the NET TIME Command to Synchronize Windows XP Workstations
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314090/EN-US/

John

Absolutely wrote:


Ok, I set the only DC to be the SNTP master and it is set to sync it's
clock with ntp0.cornell.edu. How do I now force the workstations to
sync with the master?

When I query


It looks like the proper setings for the Eastern Time Zone. I would
try a third party solution on one machine to see if it fixes things at
the workstation/client level. I would suggest the Intelliadmin patch.

John

Absolutely wrote:


Time zone: Current:TIME_ZONE_ID_DAYLIGHT Bias: 300min
(UTC=LocalTime+Bias)
[Standard Name:"Eastern Standard Time" Bias:0min DateM:11 D:1
DoW:0)]
[Daylight Name:"Eastern Daylight Time" Bias:-60min DateM:3 D:2
DoW:0)]





What does the w32tm /tz command return on those borked machines?
Run the command at the Command Prompt.

John

Absolutely wrote:




Nothing fancy. 2 2k domain controllers with 5 other member servers
(all SP4). All workstations are XP Pro SP2. DST updates have been
applied to all. Servers keep time correctly, but some workstations
don't. Used tzedit to see if the start/stop of DST was correct for
the time zone on the problem machines and it is.






Give me some more details about your network, and I may be able to
help.