Frames and FP03

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Dennis

Hi,

I have to make updates to a clients web site and transfer to new hosting.
The site is mostly in frames and everything displays fine when I open the
pages in FP but if I open frame properties without changing and click OK, FP
prompts me to save page before viweing. Then when I view the page, I only
get the top frame. I can't find where FP is making the changes in the HTML
but it must be changing something. Whats up? This is very annoying. A soon
as I edit anything on the page and save it, it won't view properly. I want
to get the updates finished by tommorrow. I dod not origianlly create the
site.

I have put the site on my testing server www.syndicsystems.com. The first
two links on the left menu are example of what happens.

Hope someone can help
 
Badly coded original frameset tags at http://www.syndicsystems.com/akaroa.htm Should be

</head>
<frameset rows="110,*" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
<frame name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" src="header.htm" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" noresize>
<frameset rows="*,45" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
<frame name="mainFrame" src="akaroa_b.htm" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0">
<frame name="bottomFrame" scrolling="NO" src="nav.htm" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0">
</frameset>
<noframes><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"></body></noframes>
</frameset>
</html>

And at http://www.syndicsystems.com/christchurch.htm Should be

</head>
<frameset rows="110,*" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
<frame name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" src="header.htm" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" noresize >
<frameset rows="*,45" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
<frame name="mainFrame" src="christchurch_b.htm" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0">
<frame name="bottomFrame" scrolling="NO" src="nav.htm" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0">
</frameset>
<noframes><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"></body></noframes>
</frameset>
</html>



--




| Hi,
|
| I have to make updates to a clients web site and transfer to new hosting.
| The site is mostly in frames and everything displays fine when I open the
| pages in FP but if I open frame properties without changing and click OK, FP
| prompts me to save page before viweing. Then when I view the page, I only
| get the top frame. I can't find where FP is making the changes in the HTML
| but it must be changing something. Whats up? This is very annoying. A soon
| as I edit anything on the page and save it, it won't view properly. I want
| to get the updates finished by tommorrow. I dod not origianlly create the
| site.
|
| I have put the site on my testing server www.syndicsystems.com. The first
| two links on the left menu are example of what happens.
|
| Hope someone can help
|
|
|
|
 
Thanks Stefan, I see what you mean. I didn't realise where the html was
scred as FP doesn't show anything of the "mainFrame" in Design or Split
view. I realsised just before that if I view the page in code view only I
can then see the "mainFrame" and can then see what is going on. The strange
thing is, all the other pages have the same screwed up html but seem to be
working fine. It is only the pages that I have opened up and saved in FP
that suddenly decide not to display.

I wonder why FP is causing this? Perhaps because it wasn't originally
designed in FP? or something to do with FP page caching?

Do have any ideas on how I can get FP to work with these pages correctly?
Perhaps I am doing something wrong as I havn't worked with frames for about
three years now.

Cheers

Stefan B Rusynko said:
Badly coded original frameset tags at
http://www.syndicsystems.com/akaroa.htm Should be
 
FP doesn't generate code like that
- some how the code was manually edited to break it
Just replace the bad code w/ the code I posted

- your other pages have the correct code

--




| Thanks Stefan, I see what you mean. I didn't realise where the html was
| scred as FP doesn't show anything of the "mainFrame" in Design or Split
| view. I realsised just before that if I view the page in code view only I
| can then see the "mainFrame" and can then see what is going on. The strange
| thing is, all the other pages have the same screwed up html but seem to be
| working fine. It is only the pages that I have opened up and saved in FP
| that suddenly decide not to display.
|
| I wonder why FP is causing this? Perhaps because it wasn't originally
| designed in FP? or something to do with FP page caching?
|
| Do have any ideas on how I can get FP to work with these pages correctly?
| Perhaps I am doing something wrong as I havn't worked with frames for about
| three years now.
|
| Cheers
|
| | > Badly coded original frameset tags at
| http://www.syndicsystems.com/akaroa.htm Should be
| >
| > </head>
| > <frameset rows="110,*" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > <frame name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" src="header.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0" noresize>
| > <frameset rows="*,45" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > <frame name="mainFrame" src="akaroa_b.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0">
| > <frame name="bottomFrame" scrolling="NO" src="nav.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0">
| > </frameset>
| > <noframes><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"></body></noframes>
| > </frameset>
| > </html>
| >
| > And at http://www.syndicsystems.com/christchurch.htm Should be
| >
| > </head>
| > <frameset rows="110,*" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > <frame name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" src="header.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0" noresize >
| > <frameset rows="*,45" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > <frame name="mainFrame" src="christchurch_b.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0">
| > <frame name="bottomFrame" scrolling="NO" src="nav.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0">
| > </frameset>
| > <noframes><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"></body></noframes>
| > </frameset>
| > </html>
| >
| >
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| | > | Hi,
| > |
| > | I have to make updates to a clients web site and transfer to new
| hosting.
| > | The site is mostly in frames and everything displays fine when I open
| the
| > | pages in FP but if I open frame properties without changing and click
| OK, FP
| > | prompts me to save page before viweing. Then when I view the page, I
| only
| > | get the top frame. I can't find where FP is making the changes in the
| HTML
| > | but it must be changing something. Whats up? This is very annoying. A
| soon
| > | as I edit anything on the page and save it, it won't view properly. I
| want
| > | to get the updates finished by tommorrow. I dod not origianlly create
| the
| > | site.
| > |
| > | I have put the site on my testing server www.syndicsystems.com. The
| first
| > | two links on the left menu are example of what happens.
| > |
| > | Hope someone can help
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
Yes, I will do that thanks as that seemed to fix the faulty pages.

However, I am not sure where you are looking to see all the other correct
code. I have had a good look at the other pages (live, original site, and on
my localhost) with FP and just view source in IE and they look exactly the
same as the screwed up pages.
eg fishing.htm that I got from view source and I didn't edit at all:

<frameset rows="110,*" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0"
cols="*">
<frame name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" src="header.htm" marginwidth="0"
marginheight="0" noresize >
<frameset rows="*,45" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0"
cols="*">
<frame name="mainFrame" src="fishing_b.htm" marginwidth="0"
marginheight="0">
<frame name="bottomFrame" scrolling="NO" src="nav.htm" marginwidth="0"
marginheight="0">
</frameset>
</frameset>
<noframes>
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
</body>
</noframes>

But this is working fine online. Same with the original site
www.adventurecanterbury.com

Strange???



Stefan B Rusynko said:
FP doesn't generate code like that
- some how the code was manually edited to break it
Just replace the bad code w/ the code I posted

- your other pages have the correct code

--




| Thanks Stefan, I see what you mean. I didn't realise where the html was
| scred as FP doesn't show anything of the "mainFrame" in Design or Split
| view. I realsised just before that if I view the page in code view only I
| can then see the "mainFrame" and can then see what is going on. The strange
| thing is, all the other pages have the same screwed up html but seem to be
| working fine. It is only the pages that I have opened up and saved in FP
| that suddenly decide not to display.
|
| I wonder why FP is causing this? Perhaps because it wasn't originally
| designed in FP? or something to do with FP page caching?
|
| Do have any ideas on how I can get FP to work with these pages correctly?
| Perhaps I am doing something wrong as I havn't worked with frames for about
| three years now.
|
| Cheers
|
| | > Badly coded original frameset tags at
| http://www.syndicsystems.com/akaroa.htm Should be
| >
| > </head>
| > <frameset rows="110,*" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > <frame name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" src="header.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0" noresize>
| > <frameset rows="*,45" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > <frame name="mainFrame" src="akaroa_b.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0">
| > <frame name="bottomFrame" scrolling="NO" src="nav.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0">
| > </frameset>
| > <noframes><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"></body></noframes>
| > </frameset>
| > </html>
| >
| > And at http://www.syndicsystems.com/christchurch.htm Should be
| >
| > </head>
| > <frameset rows="110,*" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > <frame name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" src="header.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0" noresize >
| > <frameset rows="*,45" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > <frame name="mainFrame" src="christchurch_b.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0">
| > <frame name="bottomFrame" scrolling="NO" src="nav.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0">
| > </frameset>
| > <noframes><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"></body></noframes>
| > </frameset>
| > </html>
| >
| >
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| | > | Hi,
| > |
| > | I have to make updates to a clients web site and transfer to new
| hosting.
| > | The site is mostly in frames and everything displays fine when I open
| the
| > | pages in FP but if I open frame properties without changing and click
| OK, FP
| > | prompts me to save page before viweing. Then when I view the page, I
| only
| > | get the top frame. I can't find where FP is making the changes in the
| HTML
| > | but it must be changing something. Whats up? This is very annoying. A
| soon
| > | as I edit anything on the page and save it, it won't view properly. I
| want
| > | to get the updates finished by tommorrow. I dod not origianlly create
| the
| > | site.
| > |
| > | I have put the site on my testing server www.syndicsystems.com. The
| first
| > | two links on the left menu are example of what happens.
| > |
| > | Hope someone can help
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
I just used View source in IE for the 2 bad pages vs. the good pages



--




| Yes, I will do that thanks as that seemed to fix the faulty pages.
|
| However, I am not sure where you are looking to see all the other correct
| code. I have had a good look at the other pages (live, original site, and on
| my localhost) with FP and just view source in IE and they look exactly the
| same as the screwed up pages.
| eg fishing.htm that I got from view source and I didn't edit at all:
|
| <frameset rows="110,*" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0"
| cols="*">
| <frame name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" src="header.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0" noresize >
| <frameset rows="*,45" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0"
| cols="*">
| <frame name="mainFrame" src="fishing_b.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0">
| <frame name="bottomFrame" scrolling="NO" src="nav.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0">
| </frameset>
| </frameset>
| <noframes>
| <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
| </body>
| </noframes>
|
| But this is working fine online. Same with the original site
| www.adventurecanterbury.com
|
| Strange???
|
|
|
| | > FP doesn't generate code like that
| > - some how the code was manually edited to break it
| > Just replace the bad code w/ the code I posted
| >
| > - your other pages have the correct code
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| | > | Thanks Stefan, I see what you mean. I didn't realise where the html was
| > | scred as FP doesn't show anything of the "mainFrame" in Design or Split
| > | view. I realsised just before that if I view the page in code view only
| I
| > | can then see the "mainFrame" and can then see what is going on. The
| strange
| > | thing is, all the other pages have the same screwed up html but seem to
| be
| > | working fine. It is only the pages that I have opened up and saved in FP
| > | that suddenly decide not to display.
| > |
| > | I wonder why FP is causing this? Perhaps because it wasn't originally
| > | designed in FP? or something to do with FP page caching?
| > |
| > | Do have any ideas on how I can get FP to work with these pages
| correctly?
| > | Perhaps I am doing something wrong as I havn't worked with frames for
| about
| > | three years now.
| > |
| > | Cheers
| > |
| > | | > | > Badly coded original frameset tags at
| > | http://www.syndicsystems.com/akaroa.htm Should be
| > | >
| > | > </head>
| > | > <frameset rows="110,*" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > | > <frame name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" src="header.htm"
| marginwidth="0"
| > | marginheight="0" noresize>
| > | > <frameset rows="*,45" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > | > <frame name="mainFrame" src="akaroa_b.htm" marginwidth="0"
| > | marginheight="0">
| > | > <frame name="bottomFrame" scrolling="NO" src="nav.htm"
| marginwidth="0"
| > | marginheight="0">
| > | > </frameset>
| > | > <noframes><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"></body></noframes>
| > | > </frameset>
| > | > </html>
| > | >
| > | > And at http://www.syndicsystems.com/christchurch.htm Should be
| > | >
| > | > </head>
| > | > <frameset rows="110,*" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > | > <frame name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" src="header.htm"
| marginwidth="0"
| > | marginheight="0" noresize >
| > | > <frameset rows="*,45" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > | > <frame name="mainFrame" src="christchurch_b.htm" marginwidth="0"
| > | marginheight="0">
| > | > <frame name="bottomFrame" scrolling="NO" src="nav.htm"
| marginwidth="0"
| > | marginheight="0">
| > | > </frameset>
| > | > <noframes><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"></body></noframes>
| > | > </frameset>
| > | > </html>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | | > | > | Hi,
| > | > |
| > | > | I have to make updates to a clients web site and transfer to new
| > | hosting.
| > | > | The site is mostly in frames and everything displays fine when I
| open
| > | the
| > | > | pages in FP but if I open frame properties without changing and
| click
| > | OK, FP
| > | > | prompts me to save page before viweing. Then when I view the page, I
| > | only
| > | > | get the top frame. I can't find where FP is making the changes in
| the
| > | HTML
| > | > | but it must be changing something. Whats up? This is very annoying.
| A
| > | soon
| > | > | as I edit anything on the page and save it, it won't view properly.
| I
| > | want
| > | > | to get the updates finished by tommorrow. I dod not origianlly
| create
| > | the
| > | > | site.
| > | > |
| > | > | I have put the site on my testing server www.syndicsystems.com. The
| > | first
| > | > | two links on the left menu are example of what happens.
| > | > |
| > | > | Hope someone can help
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
Ok, hmmm, nevermind, at least you helped me sort out the problem. I have
published the offline site now anyway.

Thanks for you help

Stefan B Rusynko said:
I just used View source in IE for the 2 bad pages vs. the good pages



--




| Yes, I will do that thanks as that seemed to fix the faulty pages.
|
| However, I am not sure where you are looking to see all the other correct
| code. I have had a good look at the other pages (live, original site, and on
| my localhost) with FP and just view source in IE and they look exactly the
| same as the screwed up pages.
| eg fishing.htm that I got from view source and I didn't edit at all:
|
| <frameset rows="110,*" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0"
| cols="*">
| <frame name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" src="header.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0" noresize >
| <frameset rows="*,45" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0"
| cols="*">
| <frame name="mainFrame" src="fishing_b.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0">
| <frame name="bottomFrame" scrolling="NO" src="nav.htm" marginwidth="0"
| marginheight="0">
| </frameset>
| </frameset>
| <noframes>
| <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
| </body>
| </noframes>
|
| But this is working fine online. Same with the original site
| www.adventurecanterbury.com
|
| Strange???
|
|
|
| | > FP doesn't generate code like that
| > - some how the code was manually edited to break it
| > Just replace the bad code w/ the code I posted
| >
| > - your other pages have the correct code
| >
| > --
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| | > | Thanks Stefan, I see what you mean. I didn't realise where the html was
| > | scred as FP doesn't show anything of the "mainFrame" in Design or Split
| > | view. I realsised just before that if I view the page in code view only
| I
| > | can then see the "mainFrame" and can then see what is going on. The
| strange
| > | thing is, all the other pages have the same screwed up html but seem to
| be
| > | working fine. It is only the pages that I have opened up and saved in FP
| > | that suddenly decide not to display.
| > |
| > | I wonder why FP is causing this? Perhaps because it wasn't originally
| > | designed in FP? or something to do with FP page caching?
| > |
| > | Do have any ideas on how I can get FP to work with these pages
| correctly?
| > | Perhaps I am doing something wrong as I havn't worked with frames for
| about
| > | three years now.
| > |
| > | Cheers
| > |
| > | | > | > Badly coded original frameset tags at
| > | http://www.syndicsystems.com/akaroa.htm Should be
| > | >
| > | > </head>
| > | > <frameset rows="110,*" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > | > <frame name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" src="header.htm"
| marginwidth="0"
| > | marginheight="0" noresize>
| > | > <frameset rows="*,45" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > | > <frame name="mainFrame" src="akaroa_b.htm" marginwidth="0"
| > | marginheight="0">
| > | > <frame name="bottomFrame" scrolling="NO" src="nav.htm"
| marginwidth="0"
| > | marginheight="0">
| > | > </frameset>
| > | > <noframes><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
text="#000000"> said:
| > | > </frameset>
| > | > </html>
| > | >
| > | > And at http://www.syndicsystems.com/christchurch.htm Should be
| > | >
| > | > </head>
| > | > <frameset rows="110,*" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > | > <frame name="topFrame" scrolling="NO" src="header.htm"
| marginwidth="0"
| > | marginheight="0" noresize >
| > | > <frameset rows="*,45" frameborder="NO" border="0" framespacing="0">
| > | > <frame name="mainFrame" src="christchurch_b.htm" marginwidth="0"
| > | marginheight="0">
| > | > <frame name="bottomFrame" scrolling="NO" src="nav.htm"
| marginwidth="0"
| > | marginheight="0">
| > | > </frameset>
| > | > <noframes><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
text="#000000"> said:
| > | > </frameset>
| > | > </html>
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | | > | > | Hi,
| > | > |
| > | > | I have to make updates to a clients web site and transfer to new
| > | hosting.
| > | > | The site is mostly in frames and everything displays fine when I
| open
| > | the
| > | > | pages in FP but if I open frame properties without changing and
| click
| > | OK, FP
| > | > | prompts me to save page before viweing. Then when I view the page, I
| > | only
| > | > | get the top frame. I can't find where FP is making the changes in
| the
| > | HTML
| > | > | but it must be changing something. Whats up? This is very annoying.
| A
| > | soon
| > | > | as I edit anything on the page and save it, it won't view properly.
| I
| > | want
| > | > | to get the updates finished by tommorrow. I dod not origianlly
| create
| > | the
| > | > | site.
| > | > |
| > | > | I have put the site on my testing server www.syndicsystems.com. The
| > | first
| > | > | two links on the left menu are example of what happens.
| > | > |
| > | > | Hope someone can help
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
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