folder synchronizing

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tomkelsey said:
I know previously on this group people have asked about folder
synchronizer programs. I have written a review of the best ones (at
www.tomkelsey.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/projects/synchronizer_review.html).
the following reviewed ones are free:
unison, Xfiles, directorysync, and jfilesync
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Nice job. :) May I suggest you add another row in the table to show
which ones are free. ISTM that would be helpful.

re: Allway Sync http://www.allwaysync.com/
aka: Good Sync http://www.goodsync.com/

You might want to take a look at this ACF thread: Subject: [Update]
Allway Sync v2.08 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:44:04 +1100

From: "Gary R. Schmidt" <[email protected]>
<q>
Looks like a front-end on top of Unison:
<http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/>, which is GPLed and free
refardless of usage.
</q>

Susan
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Susan said:
tomkelsey said:
I know previously on this group people have asked about folder
synchronizer programs. I have written a review of the best ones (at
www.tomkelsey.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/projects/synchronizer_review.html).
the following reviewed ones are free:
unison, Xfiles, directorysync, and jfilesync
Click to expand...


Nice job. :) May I suggest you add another row in the table to show
which ones are free. ISTM that would be helpful.

re: Allway Sync http://www.allwaysync.com/
aka: Good Sync http://www.goodsync.com/

You might want to take a look at this ACF thread: Subject: [Update]
Allway Sync v2.08 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:44:04 +1100

From: "Gary R. Schmidt" <[email protected]>
<q>
Looks like a front-end on top of Unison:
<http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/>, which is GPLed and free
refardless of usage.
</q>

Susan
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Goodsync looks quite nice. I dont really see the difference between
folder synchronising and backing up. Is this a question of size ?
Synchronising software will sychnronise a few folders whereas backup
software can synchronise entire HDs ? I use SyncBack for backing up my
HD on my external HD. Couldn't I use the backup program to get what the
folder synchronisers do ?

I think to well do the job I'd prefer to limit the number of programs I
have to handle.

Frank
 
FTR said:
This is quite a useful review. Thanks

Frank
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Thankyou for your kind words.
I am thinking of also doing a review of duplicate file finders, and I
am glad to see people are interested in this sort of review.

Tom
 
Susan said:
Nice job. :) May I suggest you add another row in the table to show
which ones are free. ISTM that would be helpful.
Click to expand...

thanks :). I will add a row with the prices on.
re: Allway Sync http://www.allwaysync.com/
aka: Good Sync http://www.goodsync.com/

You might want to take a look at this ACF thread: Subject: [Update]
Allway Sync v2.08 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:44:04 +1100

From: "Gary R. Schmidt" <[email protected]>
<q>
Looks like a front-end on top of Unison:
Click to expand...
I am sure this is not the case, if only because alway sync uses MSSQL
and unison uses its own file format.
<http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/>, which is GPLed and free
refardless of usage.
</q>

Susan
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cheers,

Tom
 
tomkelsey said:
Thankyou for your kind words.
I am thinking of also doing a review of duplicate file finders, and I
am glad to see people are interested in this sort of review.

Tom
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Excellent idea. I use the duplicate file finder from funduc (but is this
payware ???) .

I think it would be a great help if you could list which of the numerous
indicators can best distinguish two files, as this is the crux for the
layman like me.

Frank
 
FTR said:
Susan said:
tomkelsey said:
I know previously on this group people have asked about folder
synchronizer programs. I have written a review of the best ones (at
www.tomkelsey.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/projects/synchronizer_review.html).
the following reviewed ones are free:
unison, Xfiles, directorysync, and jfilesync
Click to expand...


Nice job. :) May I suggest you add another row in the table to show
which ones are free. ISTM that would be helpful.

re: Allway Sync http://www.allwaysync.com/
aka: Good Sync http://www.goodsync.com/

You might want to take a look at this ACF thread: Subject: [Update]
Allway Sync v2.08 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:44:04 +1100

From: "Gary R. Schmidt" <[email protected]>
<q>
Looks like a front-end on top of Unison:
<http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/>, which is GPLed and free
refardless of usage.
</q>

Susan
Click to expand...

Goodsync looks quite nice. I dont really see the difference between
folder synchronising and backing up. Is this a question of size ?
Synchronising software will sychnronise a few folders whereas backup
software can synchronise entire HDs ? I use SyncBack for backing up my
HD on my external HD. Couldn't I use the backup program to get what the
folder synchronisers do ?
Click to expand...
The main difference is synchronising programs can move files in both
directions, but a backup program will always move files from one HD to
the other.
e.g. if you have a desktop and a laptop, and you edit files on both of
them, a synchronising program saves you the trouble of remembering
which is the latest version of any file.
backup programs also have other features, like scheduling, and
compression.
I think to well do the job I'd prefer to limit the number of programs I
have to handle.

Frank
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cheers,
Tom
 
tomkelsey wrote:
[SNIP]
You might want to take a look at this ACF thread: Subject: [Update]
Allway Sync v2.08 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:44:04 +1100

From: "Gary R. Schmidt" <[email protected]>
<q>
Looks like a front-end on top of Unison:
Click to expand...

I am sure this is not the case, if only because alway sync uses MSSQL
and unison uses its own file format.
Click to expand...
Hmm, it seems to have changed slightly since I looked at it, presumably
there have been some changes.

If the "free" version uses MSSQL, I wonder how that are paying the
license fees?

And, for that matter, the underlying database is the most trivial part
of such a tool, you could store the information in a flat-file and still
be fine until you got to many millions of files.

Changing databases is a SMOP - a Simple Matter Of Programming, it merely
takes time, sometimes very little time, sometimes years.

The tough bit in synchronisation is working out which files are changed,
_without_ doing a full read of each file, which can take forever.
That's what the blokes who wrote Unison wrote their paper(s) on, because
that's the interesting bit.

And, of course, there's the Harmony Project
<http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/harmony/index.html>, which is
where they all went.

Cheers,
Gary B-)

P.S. I still think alwayssync is built on Unison code.
 
venerdì 28 ottobre 2005 tomkelsey ha scritto:
I know previously on this group people have asked about folder
synchronizer programs. I have written a review of the best ones (at
www.tomkelsey.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/projects/synchronizer_review.html).
the following reviewed ones are free:
unison, Xfiles, directorysync, and jfilesync
Click to expand...

Fine!
Another good synchronizer program, but only for Windows XP, is Microsoft
SyncToy:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F1-2287-40EA-8A6F-57BD8695F23D&displaylang=en
 
FTR said:
Syncback is a backup program, as far as I understand. At least I use it
this way.

Frank
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So do I, but there also some synchronizing options (advanced settings)

Cha
 
tomkelsey said:
I know previously on this group people have asked about folder
synchronizer programs. I have written a review of the best ones (at
www.tomkelsey.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/projects/synchronizer_review.html).
the following reviewed ones are free:
unison, Xfiles, directorysync, and jfilesync

regards,
Tom
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Great job! The only thing I would recommend adding is a line for whether
the app has UNICODE support. This is very important for those of us who
need to back up Japanese and Chinese filenames. :-) SyncBack and
AllwaySync both have UNICODE support. FileSync does not.

Also, you may want to review MS's SyncToy. It's pretty nice and probably
friendlier for less technical people.
 
On 28 Oct 2005 16:11:26 -0700, "tomkelsey" <[email protected]>
wrote:

I am thinking of also doing a review of duplicate file finders, and I
am glad to see people are interested in this sort of review.
Click to expand...

If you want to find the best duplicate file detector for large numbers
of duplicates then try Dupeless. I have found nothing that comes close
in regards to the visual display/functionality.

Regards, John.
 
John said:
On 28 Oct 2005 16:11:26 -0700, "tomkelsey" <[email protected]>
wrote:




If you want to find the best duplicate file detector for large numbers
of duplicates then try Dupeless. I have found nothing that comes close
in regards to the visual display/functionality.

Regards, John.


Dupeless Not Free!

Actually Dupeless itself is free, but only if you subscribe to PC magazine either digitally or deadtree version.

Not really a freebee by my way of thinking.....

Posted by: Username_Again Posted on: 04/26/04
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Frank
 
Gary said:
tomkelsey wrote:

[SNIP]
You might want to take a look at this ACF thread: Subject: [Update]
Allway Sync v2.08 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:44:04 +1100
From: "Gary R. Schmidt" <[email protected]>
<q>
Looks like a front-end on top of Unison:
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
I am sure this is not the case, if only because alway sync uses MSSQL
and unison uses its own file format.
Click to expand...

Hmm, it seems to have changed slightly since I looked at it, presumably
there have been some changes.

If the "free" version uses MSSQL, I wonder how that are paying the
license fees?

And, for that matter, the underlying database is the most trivial part
of such a tool, you could store the information in a flat-file and still
be fine until you got to many millions of files.

Changing databases is a SMOP - a Simple Matter Of Programming, it merely
takes time, sometimes very little time, sometimes years.

The tough bit in synchronisation is working out which files are changed,
_without_ doing a full read of each file, which can take forever.
That's what the blokes who wrote Unison wrote their paper(s) on, because
that's the interesting bit.

And, of course, there's the Harmony Project
<http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/harmony/index.html>, which is
where they all went.
Click to expand...
This is a shame because it means unison is no longer being developed.
One reason I recommend jfilesync instead.
Cheers,
Gary B-)

P.S. I still think alwayssync is built on Unison code.
Click to expand...
This is drifting a bit OT, so we will have to agree to disagree. But
alway sync does use the same algorithm as unison and jfilesync, whether
it is plagiarised, or, as the developer claims, independently
"developed by a team of prominent mathematicians"

cheers,
Tom
 
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