FAT32 to NTFS!

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My computer was set up with FAT32 on both HD!

Is there a way to convert to NTFS with out wiping out all my data?
Also without Backing it up?
 
To convert a volume to NTFS from the command prompt

1.. start /all programs/accessories
2.. In the command prompt window, type
convert drive_letter: /fs:ntfs

For example, typing convert D: /fs:ntfs would format drive D: with the
ntfs format.

Notes

a..
b.. You can convert FAT or FAT32 volumes to NTFS with this command.
You will not be able to convert back.It is relatively safe but you never
know....I did it and no problems.

It also might ask you to unmount by rebooting.

peterk
 
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:09:07 -0600, "peterk"

|It is relatively safe but you never
|know....I did it and no problems.
Power failure greatest threat in summer especially
in Fl, Pa,.. Short interruption & u r SOL!

HTH-Larry
Any advise is my attempt to contribute more than I have received but I can only assure you that it works on my PC. GOOD LUCK.
 
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RonD said:
My computer was set up with FAT32 on both HD!

Is there a way to convert to NTFS with out wiping out all my
data?


Sure. To convert to NTFS, you use the CONVERT command. But first
read http://www.aumha.org/a/ntfscvt.htm because there's an issue
regarding cluster size that isn't obvious.

Also without Backing it up?



Converting without backing up is foolhardy. Conversion is a big
step, affecting everything on your drive. When you take such a
big step, no matter how unlikely, it is always possible that
something could go wrong. For that reason, it's prudent to make
sure you have a backup of anything you can't afford to lose
before beginning.
 
RonD said:
My computer was set up with FAT32 on both HD!

Is there a way to convert to NTFS with out wiping out all my data?
Also without Backing it up?

You shouldn't attempt a converstion w/o first backing up. Data loss is
not an issue of if but when.
 
Ken,

I fell into the 512 byte trap on my C drive. Is there any way I can get it
to 4kb?
 
Rock said:
You shouldn't attempt a converstion w/o first backing up. Data loss is
not an issue of if but when.

Just like a professional driver. Doesn't matter if delivering beer, auto
parts, or driving a cab. No matter how safe you are and how good you
drive, sooner or later you will hit or get hit on the road.
 
In
Don Schmidt said:
Ken,

I fell into the 512 byte trap on my C drive. Is there any way I
can
get it to 4kb?


Not that I know of, Don, but perhaps someone else has a
suggestion.
 
The only solution I can think of is xxcopy to one of my other two drives,
reformat the C drive and then xxcopy back to the C drive. Whatcha think?

don
 
In
Don Schmidt said:
The only solution I can think of is xxcopy to one of my other
two
drives, reformat the C drive and then xxcopy back to the C
drive.
Whatcha think?


Is xxcopy a third-party program? Sorry, I don't know anything
about it and can't help you there.
 
xxcopy is good and should do what you need. Check the help on the website so
you set the switches correctly- there are exmples air.
 
In Don Schmidt <[email protected]> typed:
Not that I know of, Don, but perhaps someone else has a
suggestion.

You could try using something like BING (www.bootitng.com) to first
image off the volume for safety, then nudge the size and/or position
and see if that converts the cluster size.

I'm not yet a fan of NTFS for use ouside of such excellent backup
management that the "live" HD contents can be considered disposable,
as the maintenance tools still suck. So I'm still using FATxx
instead... and I had to laugh, when good old F-Prot for DOS caught a
rootkit on a Win2000-on-FATxx system in the first minute of formal
scanning. I wonder how much fun we'd have had on NTFS ;-)

However, if I were to use NTFS for C:, I'd rather install the OS onto
NTFS, than install onto FATxx and then convert to NTFS. This isn't
just because of the 512-byte cluster trap - more on that later - but
because the installation of the OS can't assign appropriate
permissions to files and dirs if the initial file system is FATxx. So
when you convert to NTFS, you get "flat" open permissions right across
the installation, as you had with FATxx.

I use BING to create partitions and logical volumes, because one of
the things it lets you do is create FATxx volumes that are aligned in
such a way that should you later convert to NTFS, you won't get the
512-byte cluster problem. So although I still build with FATxx
instead of NTFS, the volumes I create are "NTFS-ready" :-)

BTW: How big a deal is the "flat permissions" thing. when XP is
installed on FATxx and then converted to NTFS? Does doing a repair
install assert the proper permissions? If so, is the benefit worth
the risks of falling back to unpatched status, etc.? Is there some
other way to assign the correct permissions?


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To disable the 'Tip of the Day' feature...
 
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 12:33:14 -0700, "Don Schmidt"
The only solution I can think of is xxcopy to one of my other two drives,
reformat the C drive and then xxcopy back to the C drive. Whatcha think?

Unlikely to work, though a repair install *may* resurrecct the
installation afterwards. Unlike Win9x, NT is too brittle to survive a
file-level scrape-over, even if you are meticulous about preserving
all files, maintaining correct 8.3 names under LFNs, etc.

So you'd have to image the volume across, and that preserves the same
file system type... but it might cure the 512-byte cluster affliction.


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better one at http://topicdrift.blogspot.com instead!
 
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:33:18 -0700, "Ken Blake"

|In |Don Schmidt <[email protected]> typed:
|
|> Ken,
|>
|> I fell into the 512 byte trap on my C drive. Is there any way I
|> can
|> get it to 4kb?
|
|
|Not that I know of, Don, but perhaps someone else has a
|suggestion.
I used PM7 to FAT->NTFS, 512->4k, NTFS->FAT
Piece of cake. I must have missed something!

HTH-Larry

Any advise is my attempt to contribute more than I have received but I can only assure you that it works on my PC. GOOD LUCK.
 
cquirke said:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 11:33:18 -0700, "Ken Blake"



You could try using something like BING (www.bootitng.com) to first
image off the volume for safety, then nudge the size and/or position
and see if that converts the cluster size.

I'm not yet a fan of NTFS for use ouside of such excellent backup
management that the "live" HD contents can be considered disposable,
as the maintenance tools still suck.

That's for sure.
So I'm still using FATxx
instead... and I had to laugh, when good old F-Prot for DOS caught a
rootkit on a Win2000-on-FATxx system in the first minute of formal
scanning. I wonder how much fun we'd have had on NTFS ;-)

Interesting. Good old F-Prot for DOS. Haven't seen a decent stand-alone
a/v tool since.
However, if I were to use NTFS for C:, I'd rather install the OS onto
NTFS, than install onto FATxx and then convert to NTFS. This isn't
just because of the 512-byte cluster trap - more on that later - but
because the installation of the OS can't assign appropriate
permissions to files and dirs if the initial file system is FATxx. So
when you convert to NTFS, you get "flat" open permissions right across
the installation, as you had with FATxx.

I use BING to create partitions and logical volumes, because one of
the things it lets you do is create FATxx volumes that are aligned in
such a way that should you later convert to NTFS, you won't get the
512-byte cluster problem. So although I still build with FATxx
instead of NTFS, the volumes I create are "NTFS-ready" :-)

BTW: How big a deal is the "flat permissions" thing. when XP is
installed on FATxx and then converted to NTFS? Does doing a repair
install assert the proper permissions?

Not that I've seen. Either a clean install or manually set permissions
one stinking folder at a time.
If so, is the benefit worth
the risks of falling back to unpatched status, etc.?

No, especially since it doesn't work anyway.
Is there some
other way to assign the correct permissions?

Supposedly:

http://www.le.ac.uk/cc/dsss/docs/acls3.shtml

but it didn't do squat when I've tried it.

Steve
 
How about converting my root drive while xp is running? I mean can I convert
the drive where xp is installed while xp is running?
 
delcandapar_yavin4 said:
How about converting my root drive while xp is running? I mean can I
convert
the drive where xp is installed while xp is running?

Yes. Read the link Ken provided. Also for future reference, if you're not
the OP, you should not post a new question as a reply to someone else's
thread - called hijacking. Start a new thread.
 
RonD said:
My computer was set up with FAT32 on both HD!

Is there a way to convert to NTFS with out wiping out all my data?
Also without Backing it up?

I just Want Ntfs to but my prorblem is when i did E: /fs:ntfs. There is no
acction. And when I did a Second time there was still nothing. Do you know
how this coud happend and what I have to do?
 
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