Faster Startup Idea

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Microsoft should consult with a hardware company about this idea.

When you buy a computer, their should be this little drive that you can take
out (with proper covering and take-out procedures and safety features) that
is a permanent memory. This permanent memory should be able to be accessed
quickly and holds the operating system's files. With this, the time it takes
to load the operating system from the hard drive to the memory is taken away.
To solve the problem of updates and enhancements, a file in the OS Memory
tells the computer to read the a file that contains all modifications that
the OS loads to an additional temporary memory on the same module where the
OS Memory is located. An additional feature of this system is bootlegging.
Since the files for the OS are on a permanent memory, they cannot be copied
onto another memory module because the memory cannot be modified. This idea
may seem confusing at first but trust me, it is opening a whole new concept
of software. Also, it eliminates the proccess of installing the OS because
all that is needed to be done is to stick in the memory module and the
computer can boot up! Please consider this idea.

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Your idea was implemented by HP a number of years ago.
Their Omnibook laptop had the whole OS and several apps
burnt into ROM. It would start up within a few seconds.
The project sank without a trace, perhaps because it failed
to deliver the flexibility that we demand. In other words,
at that time people voted with their wallets, and HP listened.


parent5446 said:
Microsoft should consult with a hardware company about this idea.

When you buy a computer, their should be this little drive that you can take
out (with proper covering and take-out procedures and safety features) that
is a permanent memory. This permanent memory should be able to be accessed
quickly and holds the operating system's files. With this, the time it takes
to load the operating system from the hard drive to the memory is taken away.
To solve the problem of updates and enhancements, a file in the OS Memory
tells the computer to read the a file that contains all modifications that
the OS loads to an additional temporary memory on the same module where the
OS Memory is located. An additional feature of this system is bootlegging.
Since the files for the OS are on a permanent memory, they cannot be copied
onto another memory module because the memory cannot be modified. This idea
may seem confusing at first but trust me, it is opening a whole new concept
of software. Also, it eliminates the proccess of installing the OS because
all that is needed to be done is to stick in the memory module and the
computer can boot up! Please consider this idea.

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I trust you know how often operating systems are patched. Given this, I'm
willing to bet that you would run out of that temporary memory where updates
are kept quite quickly. How much would this delivery method add to the
price of the OS? My guess would be that it would at least double the cost;
I don't know many people who would pay that premium for something that will
slightly improve performance. Also, I don't see how a memory being read
only allows it to not be copied...anyone with the proper hardware can copy
the data from the chip and burn it onto a new chip. Finally, the operating
system would still need to be installed as it has to setup up the proper
drivers for the rest of the hardware in the computer, thus negating that
benefit.

I really like I thought process though...it's creative thinking like yours
that lead to the technology of tomorrow...wow that sounded horribly sappy...

Peace out
JaReD



parent5446 said:
Microsoft should consult with a hardware company about this idea.

When you buy a computer, their should be this little drive that you can take
out (with proper covering and take-out procedures and safety features) that
is a permanent memory. This permanent memory should be able to be accessed
quickly and holds the operating system's files. With this, the time it takes
to load the operating system from the hard drive to the memory is taken away.
To solve the problem of updates and enhancements, a file in the OS Memory
tells the computer to read the a file that contains all modifications that
the OS loads to an additional temporary memory on the same module where the
OS Memory is located.
Click to expand...


An additional feature of this system is bootlegging.
Since the files for the OS are on a permanent memory, they cannot be copied
onto another memory module because the memory cannot be modified. This idea
may seem confusing at first but trust me, it is opening a whole new concept
of software. Also, it eliminates the proccess of installing the OS because
all that is needed to be done is to stick in the memory module and the
computer can boot up! Please consider this idea.
Click to expand...
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I'll agree with the idea that an OS should be seperate from the main
system of files.. Now, here's where the concept could actually work..
Right now we have Rom chips that can be flashed, basically your concept
could be done from a major or multiple major rom chips built into a
motherboard.. Now here's where the idea falls apart, the reason Rom
chips are cheap for making bios is they only have to hold a megabyte or
two.. Now, for a operating system you're looking at atleast 512 mega
bytes.. That's quite a few rom chips..

However, this is a way it could work and wouldn't cost nearly as much..
Pre loaded operating systems on a 2 gig (or less) drive.. All write
abilities of the drive stripped.. Can you say plug and play operating
system? Now, the downfall to the idea is that even if you were to make
a perfect OS there would be flaws.. But, that's simple enough to fix.

1) The OS Drive should only contain the OS! (IE: No bells, whistles,
tech tools, special software).
2) EVERY OTHER component installed to a secondary updatable HD.
3) Ram for the OS built INTO the HD. (Why add access storage time by
making it loop through the IDE and RAM Bus?)

Now, it's a future away, but a 2gig storage device (removable or not)
is like $10 each.. I think I could part with an extra $10 if I could
keep my OS from being corupted and my personal files seperate in case
the OS fails. Think, everytime your OS falls apart you're stuck with
basically two options.. Find a way to fix it or back up as much as you
can and reinstall.. Now, I'm sorry, but I can't stand when I have to
rework everything in my system to match a new install of an OS.
Reworking just the links to the proper files or reinstalling everything
that requires a registry entry that was deleted in the reinstall takes
atleast 2-3 days, just to get the computer back into somewhat regular
working order.. WHY DO THEY INSIST ON TIEING ALL PROGRAMS INTO THE
OS!!!!! WHY?!?!?! IF THE OS FAILS EVERY PROGRAM TIED TO THE OS WILL
ALSO FAIL UNLESS YOU REINSTALL EVERYTHING!!!!!!...

I have yet to see an OS where you can seperate all your installations
from the OS.. Why tie them in to an OS that has the potential of
failing.. Meh.. Just my two cents..

-Timberwolf
 
Sounds like ROM Basic. The "boottime" issue is that of all the hardware
being checked and drivers loaded, not particularly the "operating
system" load time. You might consider instead "hibernate".
 
Interesting thread to say the least...however, I don't see how you can say a
2GB storage device would only cost 10 bucks? I'm guessing that even if this
wasn't tried until the OS after Vista, such a chip would still cost at least
as much as the OS itself.
 
OK. I guess I'll have to develop an idea for a new OS VelociStart system.
I'll post some new ideas when I get some.
 
I actually meant a current technology storage device.. IE: 2gig HD.. If
you disabled the drives ability to write it'd be the equivalent of
having a rom chip.. It could still be corrupted, but would not have
nearly as much suseptability to viruses or OS file changes without
physical access to the HD.

-Timberwolf
 
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