Exactly!!

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Mel

Ian, you hit the nail on the head.

Get away from the computer engineer mindset, and try to look at this
issue from the non-nerd who just wants a good tool to use.

I don't care about all the engineering, all the file structures, and
the reasoning behind and justification as to why this is so
complicated. I just want to go to the computer, create some stuff
(letters, forms, spreadsheets, photos, e-mail, etc.) and have the
computer work things out so it's real simple for me to file the stuff
away, and then go get it when I need it.

This is similar to the way things used to be when we had DOS. In order
to set up a printer or a modem (remember those?), you really had to
know a lot of detailed installation procedures. I remember buying a
book called the Modem Doctor or something, just so I could fight my way
through replacing a 14.4 with a 28.8. Nowadays, if you have a new
printer or scanner or external drive, etc., you just plug it in and the
computer sees it and installs it, and, presto-zappo, the hardest part
of setting the equipment up was unwrapping it.

We need this attitude with the "My Documents" situation. I don't care
about virtual this, or administrator that. I just want to have an
easily understood system for sticking my documents somewhere and
retrieving them.

Malke: Thanks for the information. It is exactly what I need. Now I
ought to be able to figure out where to go when I need to save a
document, and get a document. I'll just ignore all the other places
that seem to be duplicating everything. I wish I understood it as
clearly as you do.

In the current structure on my computer, there is "My Documents" on
the desktop, and "Mel's Documents" under "My Computer"
What is the relationship between these two "Documents" folders?
Should I just always go to "Mel's Documents" ??

BTW, in the file structure I showed in the first message in this
thread, there really are 10, count them TEN, folders labeled "videos"
of some sort. I just need one.

Thanks again Malke. I sure am glad there are folks like you that hang
out here.

Mel
 
Mel wrote:

(snip rant)

It would have been better to have kept this in your original thread.
Malke: Thanks for the information. It is exactly what I need. Now I
ought to be able to figure out where to go when I need to save a
document, and get a document. I'll just ignore all the other places
that seem to be duplicating everything. I wish I understood it as
clearly as you do.

In the current structure on my computer, there is "My Documents" on
the desktop, and "Mel's Documents" under "My Computer"
What is the relationship between these two "Documents" folders?
Should I just always go to "Mel's Documents" ??
Click to expand...

The icon on your Desktop called "My Documents" is a shortcut to C
\Documents and Settings\Mel\My Documents. The icon called Mel's
Documents in My Computer is a shortcut to C:\Documents and
Settings\Mel\My Documents. As I explained, you only have one My
Documents folder per user account. You have one Shared Documents folder
for the computer.

Again, save your personal items in My Documents, either in the various
"My" folders or create folders that make sense to you. As I explained
to you in my previous post, you do not have ten video folders. You have
one per user account and one shared folder. The others are shortcuts.
There is really no need to get exercised about this. No one is forcing
you to use that particular saving scheme.

Good night and try and enjoy your computer.

Malke
 
Aha!! I can reply now!
It would have been better to have kept this in your original thread.
Click to expand...

I tried for hours to do just that. Google had a problem that prevented
me and a few million others from replying in their orginal threads. It
appears they have it fixed now.

Thanks for the help.

mel
 
Mel said:
I remember buying a
book called the Modem Doctor or something, just so I could fight my way
through replacing a 14.4 with a 28.8.
Click to expand...

You needed a book to tell you how to unplug a serial cord, move one device
to the garage sale pile, and plug the serial cord into the new device?
Modems have been plug and play far longer than there's been a term for it:
There's not enough to them to screw up unless you do something
brain-damaged like get a WinModem or an internal modem. Not sure why
anybody sane would put an internal modem on their machine anyway: That's
just what I want plugged directly into my motherboard, a device that
connects to lines easily struck by lightning bypassing the power supply's
fuse and the surge suppressor (as opposed to an external modem, which will
fry so your machine doesn't have to in the same scenario).
We need this attitude with the "My Documents" situation. I don't care
about virtual this, or administrator that. I just want to have an
easily understood system for sticking my documents somewhere and
retrieving them.
Click to expand...

What's so hard to figure out about a directory? That's all My Documents is.
If you always save to that folder, you only have one folder to move when it
comes time to upgrade.
In the current structure on my computer, there is "My Documents" on
the desktop, and "Mel's Documents" under "My Computer"
What is the relationship between these two "Documents" folders?
Should I just always go to "Mel's Documents" ??
Click to expand...

They're the same directory, Explorer just "helpfully" calls it by name in My
Computer to differentiate from other user's files.
BTW, in the file structure I showed in the first message in this
thread, there really are 10, count them TEN, folders labeled "videos"
of some sort. I just need one.
Click to expand...

So delete the ones you don't need. You can't hurt anything by rearranging
My Documents the way you want it: That's precisely why that directory
exists to begin with.
 
Please trim unused quotes from replies.
I tried for hours to do just that. Google had a problem that prevented
me and a few million others from replying in their orginal threads. It
appears they have it fixed now.
Click to expand...

Google Groups is not an authoritative server for microsoft.* groups: These
are leaked feeds. Only use nntp://msnews.microsoft.com/ to access these
groups: It is the only authoritative server for microsoft.*
 
Baloo said:
You needed a book to tell you how to unplug a serial cord, move one device
to the garage sale pile, and plug the serial cord into the new device?
Modems have been plug and play far longer than there's been a term for it:
There's not enough to them to screw up unless you do something
brain-damaged like get a WinModem or an internal modem. Not sure why
anybody sane would put an internal modem on their machine anyway: That's
just what I want plugged directly into my motherboard, a device that
connects to lines easily struck by lightning bypassing the power supply's
fuse and the surge suppressor (as opposed to an external modem, which will
fry so your machine doesn't have to in the same scenario).
Click to expand...
Are you seriously suggesting that a power spike from lightning that would
fry an external modem wouldn't also go up a serial cable and fry everything
else between that and ground? There are certainly good reasons for having a
real external hardware modem compared to an internal Winmodem, but
lightning strikes are not one of them. Besides better surge protectors
allow for the cabling of the phone line through them as well as power
lines.

Cheers.


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You just can't play games on Linux!
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NoStop said:
Are you seriously suggesting that a power spike from lightning that would
fry an external modem wouldn't also go up a serial cable and fry
everything else between that and ground?
Click to expand...

Yes, because I've seen it work like that on more than one occasion. The
pacific northwest tends to be somewhat prone to thunderstorm in summer, and
I've zapped many an external modem that way. A quality external modem
really does work that way. Just like a quality power supply works as a
surge suppressor as well.
 
Gosh, Baloo, I sure wish I was a smart as you!
You needed a book to tell you how to unplug a serial cord, move one device
to the garage sale pile, and plug the serial cord into the new device?
Modems have been plug and play far longer than there's been a term for it:
There's not enough to them to screw up unless you do something
brain-damaged like get a WinModem or an internal modem. Not sure why
anybody sane would put an internal modem on their machine anyway: That's
just what I want plugged directly into my motherboard, a device that
connects to lines easily struck by lightning bypassing the power supply's
fuse and the surge suppressor (as opposed to an external modem, which will
fry so your machine doesn't have to in the same scenario).


What's so hard to figure out about a directory? That's all My Documents is.
If you always save to that folder, you only have one folder to move when it
comes time to upgrade.


They're the same directory, Explorer just "helpfully" calls it by name in My
Computer to differentiate from other user's files.


So delete the ones you don't need. You can't hurt anything by rearranging
My Documents the way you want it: That's precisely why that directory
exists to begin with.
Click to expand...
 
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