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Trying to use Excel 2002 brings a XP pop-up EULA notice and I am hesitant to
agree without knowing who it comes from. This is a legal factory install and
have been using for 2 years. Is this a recent MS update?
 
furstm said:
Trying to use Excel 2002 brings a XP pop-up EULA notice and I am hesitant
to
agree without knowing who it comes from. This is a legal factory install
and
have been using for 2 years. Is this a recent MS update?
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I use Office 2000, and any time I've gotten Office service packs from MS,
the EULA agreement has popped up, but just once after each update. What I do
NOT know is whether your version of Office can update itself in the
background, in the same way as Windows XP. If yes, that answers your
question.
 
Thank you Doug, I was surprised that the EULA does not contain anything that
indicates it is from MS. Furthermore, I got the same EULA trying to open
Word this morning. In the title of the EULA, it also indicates
"(non-operating system)". This justs seems a little fishy to me. Your last
comment about Office up-dating in the background.... I would think MS has
that all taken care of for legal installs (from Gateway). Thanks again.
 
furstm said:
Trying to use Excel 2002 brings a XP pop-up EULA notice and I am hesitant to
agree without knowing who it comes from. This is a legal factory install and
have been using for 2 years. Is this a recent MS update?
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Is there any particular reason you can't simply read the EULA to
determine just what you're being asked to agree to? Don't you think
that perhaps the text of the EULA might tell you from whom it originates
and with whom you'd be entering into a legally binding contract? Don't
you read other contracts you enter into?


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Thank you Bruce. It just seemed odd to me. I'm confident in Microsoft but
that name is not listed prominently throughout... not that it would make much
of a difference. It's 11 pages long and and the fine print is pointless to
read if I have already agreed with my original "OEM" ownership to not sell
"software". Now, if MS comes up with something they are adding in an
automatic update, I suspect that they would say so in plain English
beforehand and then, for their attorneys' sake, I would sign. I'm also not
smart enough to know if this is an opportunity for someone else to access
information. Finally, I've never had to do this before so I'm naturally
cautious.... you know, like reading contracts before signing. For those
reasons, why not ask someone else more experienced than I am?
 
Bruce Chambers said:
Is there any particular reason you can't simply read the EULA to determine
just what you're being asked to agree to? Don't you think that perhaps
the text of the EULA might tell you from whom it originates and with whom
you'd be entering into a legally binding contract? Don't you read other
contracts you enter into?
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What if you don't like what you see, and click the "other" button? Will the
software still start up? If no, then it doesn't matter what you think about
the agreement. If you need the software, you have no choice.
 
Bruce said:
Is there any particular reason you can't simply read the EULA to
determine just what you're being asked to agree to? Don't you think
that perhaps the text of the EULA might tell you from whom it
originates and with whom you'd be entering into a legally binding
contract? Don't you read other contracts you enter into?
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Maybe it is part of some new malware, Bruce. A EULA box showing up
after 2 years of use is a little suspicious to me, and I'd give the OP
credit for asking before just clicking on something that had been done
two years previously.

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And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
furstm said:
Thank you Bruce. It just seemed odd to me. I'm confident in Microsoft but
that name is not listed prominently throughout... not that it would make much
of a difference. It's 11 pages long and and the fine print is pointless to
read if I have already agreed with my original "OEM" ownership to not sell
"software".
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Updates and service packs from Microsoft (and a great many other
software manufacturers) often include new and/or amended EULAs,
particularly if new features are included in the update. A new EULA
would necessarily a new agreement from the customer.

Now, if MS comes up with something they are adding in an
automatic update, I suspect that they would say so in plain English
beforehand and then, for their attorneys' sake, I would sign.
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Ah....., In my experience, all Microsoft EULAs *are* in "plain
English" (if a bit stilted) -- at least as it was understood when I
graduated high school, some 35 years ago. Granted, today's youth, with
the public schools spending more effort teaching "self-esteem" and
political correctness than useful knowledge, might have some trouble
with it.

I'm also not
smart enough to know if this is an opportunity for someone else to access
information. Finally, I've never had to do this before so I'm naturally
cautious.... you know, like reading contracts before signing. For those
reasons, why not ask someone else more experienced than I am?
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Ask, certainly, but decide for yourself. Ultimately, it's incumbent
upon *you* to know what you're getting yourself into. A mistaken
adviser, no matter how well intentioned, won't suffer any consequences
from giving bad advice; but you could easily suffer for following that
bad advice.


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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
 
Doug said:
What if you don't like what you see, and click the "other" button? Will the
software still start up?
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No, and all one need do is go purchase a competing product that has
more amenable licensing terms.

If no, then it doesn't matter what you think about
the agreement. If you need the software, you have no choice.
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There's no such thing as an "indispensible" software product; there are
too many competing products. All one need do is decide whether or not
the trouble of changing products is more onerous than the new licensing
terms.



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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
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kurttrail said:
Maybe it is part of some new malware, Bruce.
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A possibility, of course. That's why I suggested he actually read the
EULA, rather than ask us to guess what it is, sight unseen.

A EULA box showing up
after 2 years of use is a little suspicious to me,
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It's not really all that uncommon, Kurt. Updates and particularly
service packs from Microsoft (and a great many other software
manufacturers) often include new and/or amended EULAs, particularly if
new features are included in the update. I've even seen, on a few rare
occasions, corrupted registry entries that caused applications to
"re-present" their EULAs as if they had never been initially agreed to.

and I'd give the OP
credit for asking before just clicking on something that had been done
two years previously.
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Certainly the OP deserves credit for stopping to think before
mindlessly agreeing, as so many people are prone to do, but I don't see
how he can reasonably expect anyone to offer useful advice about
something that we cannot see and have not read. If he doesn't feel up
to reading it himself, he'll need to post the text of it here before we
could even start to offer valid advice.


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Bruce Chambers

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They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
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You must accept the Office End User License Agreement
every time that you start an Office program
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/884202/en-us

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| Trying to use Excel 2002 brings a XP pop-up EULA notice and I am hesitant to
| agree without knowing who it comes from. This is a legal factory install and
| have been using for 2 years. Is this a recent MS update?
| --
| Thank you...
 
Dear Carey,
Thank you for responding so succinctly. When you say "every time that
you start an Office program"...that caught me off guard. I have never had
to agree to a EULA after the initial startup, and needing to do so now made
me think it's a hacker at work, or sometime added to my program by way of an
update. I'm happy to agree.... I certainly believe in Microsoft. I just
have never had to do this a year or two after using my legitimate
installation copy.
I did read the Help and Support article but have not made any effort
to change my registry. It ain't broke, and I wouldn't know how to fix it if
it were.
On your advice now, I will agree to this new EULA but I am curious
what "every time you start an Office program" means. Does that mean I am now
going to agree to a EULA every time I want to open a Word or Excel document?
 
furstm said:
Dear Carey,
Thank you for responding so succinctly. When you say "every time
that you start an Office program"...that caught me off guard. I
have never had to agree to a EULA after the initial startup, and
needing to do so now made me think it's a hacker at work, or sometime
added to my program by way of an update. I'm happy to agree.... I
certainly believe in Microsoft. I just have never had to do this a
year or two after using my legitimate installation copy.
I did read the Help and Support article but have not made any
effort
to change my registry. It ain't broke, and I wouldn't know how to
fix it if it were.
On your advice now, I will agree to this new EULA but I am
curious
what "every time you start an Office program" means. Does that mean
I am now going to agree to a EULA every time I want to open a Word or
Excel document?
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No, Carey was quoting the title of the KB article he gave you, without
using quotes. It is a fairly common problem, where the EULA dialogue
box shows up every time an Office program is started. A problem which
you don't sound like you are having.

Just ignore Carey, as he often misreads people's problems and copies and
pastes links to solutions that aren't relevant.

--
Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
Just follow the troubleshooting suggestions in the
KB article and your issue should be resolved.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

| Dear Carey,
| Thank you for responding so succinctly. When you say "every time that
| you start an Office program"...that caught me off guard. I have never had
| to agree to a EULA after the initial startup, and needing to do so now made
| me think it's a hacker at work, or sometime added to my program by way of an
| update. I'm happy to agree.... I certainly believe in Microsoft. I just
| have never had to do this a year or two after using my legitimate
| installation copy.
| I did read the Help and Support article but have not made any effort
| to change my registry. It ain't broke, and I wouldn't know how to fix it if
| it were.
| On your advice now, I will agree to this new EULA but I am curious
| what "every time you start an Office program" means. Does that mean I am now
| going to agree to a EULA every time I want to open a Word or Excel document?
| --
| Thank you...
|
|
| "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
|
| > You must accept the Office End User License Agreement
| > every time that you start an Office program
| > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/884202/en-us
| >
| > --
| > Carey Frisch
| > Microsoft MVP
| > Windows - Shell/User
| > Microsoft Community Newsgroups
| > news://msnews.microsoft.com/
| >
| > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­----------------
| >
| > "furstm" wrote:
| >
| > | Trying to use Excel 2002 brings a XP pop-up EULA notice and I am hesitant to
| > | agree without knowing who it comes from. This is a legal factory install and
| > | have been using for 2 years. Is this a recent MS update?
| > | --
| > | Thank you...
| >
| >
 
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