Dumb Question I know, how do I back up my computer?

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Have no idea where to start. I know there is a way to do it to disks but
havent a clue. Had a hard drive crash before and want to be ready "just in
case" Can someone help me so I dont feel such a moron?
 
crgirl said:
Have no idea where to start. I know there is a way to do it to disks but
havent a clue. Had a hard drive crash before and want to be ready "just in
case" Can someone help me so I dont feel such a moron?

There's a variety of ways to do this. One simple way is to just copy the
important user files to CD, DVD or a flash drive. I recommend having at
least two different forms of backup for the same data. Do not rely solely
on a flash drive for this purpose. If the hard drive crashes, XP will have
to be reinstalled, then all applications reinstalled from their original
media, and the data restored from the copies you made. This is the process
you went through. The downside to this is that you have to remember to
regularly backup the files. This seems to go by the wayside after awhile,
and it is quite a process to restore the OS and apps if that's needed.

Another way is to use a backup program to backup data, and depending on the
backup program the system can be backed up as well. This has the advantage
that the system can be restored if the drive crashes, as well as data files.
The backup can set to run on a schedule. Still backing up to CD or DVD
requires you to insert the media, and it can take more than one DVD
depending on how much there is to backup.

I recommend using a drive imaging program for backups, saving those images
on an external hard drive. Acronis True Image Home version 10 works well
for this purpose. Imaging is the process of creating a single file that
contains everything that's on the drive (or partition), and this is usually
compressed to save space. Images can be done on a drive or partition basis,
and restores can be done on a file, partition or drive basis. Images can be
either full, incremental (just what has changed since the last image was
created), or differential (what was changed since the last full image).
This saves space for subsequent images.allowing you to keep multiple images.
In case of disaster, say the drive dies, a recent image can be restored
using Acronis True Image by booting from a CD, to a new drive, in less than
an hour. This is much better than having to reinstall the OS and
applications and then restoring the data from a backup.

Acronis True Image also does file backups so in addition to imaging you can
save the user files separately. It comes with it's own scheduler to
automate the process of backups.

External drives are connected to the computer through a USB cable to a USB
port, or through Firewire, or for some newer systems, by eSata. You can
purchase a preassembled external hard drive, there are many manufacturer's,
but it is much less costly and easy, to put together one yourself. Just
purchase a bare hard drive (as a "white box" kit which is just the drive
without any of the supporting materials which are not needed), and an
external hard drive enclosure. Remove a couple of screws from the hard
drive enclosure cover plate, insert the drive, secure with a few screws,
attach the integrated power connector and ribbon cable, screw the lid back
on, attach the USB cable and it's ready to go. Enclosures are in the $20
range. A 320 GB EIDE hard drive can be had for less than $90. Acronis True
Image costs between $30-40. Check places like Newegg.com or TigerDirect for
prices.

One of our regular posters here, Anna , has compiled a list of instructions
on how to use Acronis True Image to create disk images. Search for her
posts and she might even see this post and reply herself.

Backups are essential. It's great you looking into how to do this, it puts
you a step ahead of many computer users. As you have learned, data loss is
an issue of when, not if. A drive imaging program coupled with an external
hard drive is a low cost form of insurance for the inevitable computer
disasters.
 
crgirl said:
Have no idea where to start. I know there is a way to do it to disks but
havent a clue. Had a hard drive crash before and want to be ready "just in
case" Can someone help me so I dont feel such a moron?

There are a couple of different ways to back up a computer. You can
create a disk/partition image which would be used to restore your
computer to a certain point in time. You can also do incremental backups
of just your data. In either case you would want to store the image and
data on either a second internal hard drive or an external hard drive. A
good program that will handle both these tasks is Acronis True Image.


Malke
 
Today, Rock made these interesting comments ...
There's a variety of ways to do this. One simple way is to
just copy the important user files to CD, DVD or a flash
drive. I recommend having at least two different forms of
backup for the same data.

I agree, a reasonable amount of redundancy is highly valuable.
And, since no one knows when their HD will crash, even though
modern ones are quite reliable, even having a secondary external
isn't enough. In my case, I have an external for work-in-progress
style backups and rotate 2 200 gig externals between my bank's
safety deposit box and a shelf in my basement.

My backup regimen, about every 4-6 weeks, is to first scan both
my PCs for malware, there being no sense in backing up an
infected system, then do an Acronis True Image full image of my
primary partition, and copy over my data folders, which are on
two extended partitions.

Do not rely solely on a flash drive
for this purpose. If the hard drive crashes, XP will have to
be reinstalled, then all applications reinstalled from their
original media, and the data restored from the copies you
made. This is the process you went through. The downside to
this is that you have to remember to regularly backup the
files. This seems to go by the wayside after awhile, and it
is quite a process to restore the OS and apps if that's
needed.

Another way is to use a backup program to backup data, and
depending on the backup program the system can be backed up as
well. This has the advantage that the system can be restored
if the drive crashes, as well as data files. The backup can
set to run on a schedule. Still backing up to CD or DVD
requires you to insert the media, and it can take more than
one DVD depending on how much there is to backup.

I recommend using a drive imaging program for backups, saving
those images on an external hard drive. Acronis True Image
Home version 10 works well for this purpose. Imaging is the
process of creating a single file that contains everything
that's on the drive (or partition), and this is usually
compressed to save space. Images can be done on a drive or
partition basis, and restores can be done on a file, partition
or drive basis. Images can be either full, incremental (just
what has changed since the last image was created), or
differential (what was changed since the last full image).
This saves space for subsequent images.allowing you to keep
multiple images. In case of disaster, say the drive dies, a
recent image can be restored using Acronis True Image by
booting from a CD, to a new drive, in less than an hour. This
is much better than having to reinstall the OS and
applications and then restoring the data from a backup.

Acronis True Image also does file backups so in addition to
imaging you can save the user files separately. It comes with
it's own scheduler to automate the process of backups.

I've only use TI for full image backups. One of these days, I've
got to test drive the automated incremental backups of my data
files, although I am generally against allowing anything at all
to run automagically. But, since 99 44/100%+ of all my data are
normal file types, simple folder copies using Xcopy or Windows
Explorer to my external seems to work well. And, as part of the
redundancy thingy, several times a year, I burn DVD-Rs of my
data. Of course, I also burn a DVD for my Acronis backups and
have both the 8-floppy set to get it running if my system is
totally dead and a bootable CD.
External drives are connected to the computer through a USB
cable to a USB port, or through Firewire, or for some newer
systems, by eSata. You can purchase a preassembled external
hard drive, there are many manufacturer's, but it is much less
costly and easy, to put together one yourself. Just purchase
a bare hard drive (as a "white box" kit which is just the
drive without any of the supporting materials which are not
needed), and an external hard drive enclosure. Remove a
couple of screws from the hard drive enclosure cover plate,
insert the drive, secure with a few screws, attach the
integrated power connector and ribbon cable, screw the lid
back on, attach the USB cable and it's ready to go.
Enclosures are in the $20 range. A 320 GB EIDE hard drive can
be had for less than $90. Acronis True Image costs between
$30-40. Check places like Newegg.com or TigerDirect for
prices.

Hmmm. I've never seen True Image in a store locally and it cost
me about $100 from their web site for 9.0. As to externals, if
you're not concerned about paying a premium for a brand name, and
I'm not, then the price/gig is in the 25-50 cent range, so if you
wait for a sale, you can get a 200 gig for under $100, sometimes
down in the $50-60 range. At these prices, it doesn't make sense
to me to try building my own USB device.
One of our regular posters here, Anna , has compiled a list of
instructions on how to use Acronis True Image to create disk
images. Search for her posts and she might even see this post
and reply herself.

Yes, I thought her post was an outstanding synopsis of not only
the key features of the utility, but also the gotchas in backing
up one's system. Some of these were obvious to an experienced
person, but I saw a number of them I hadn't thought of. And, she
also provided tips on how to maximize the various functions of TI
in enough detail to be truly useful but far easier than trying to
traverse the help system. I only have XP Pro SP2 right now, but
for the Vista crowd, I believe that Anna had said that she had
not yet tested TI on Vista to see if there are any concerns,
advantages, disadvantages, etc.
Backups are essential. It's great you looking into how to do
this, it puts you a step ahead of many computer users. As you
have learned, data loss is an issue of when, not if. A drive
imaging program coupled with an external hard drive is a low
cost form of insurance for the inevitable computer disasters.
It has been said that the time most people decide to start
backing up their system is right AFTER a major crash or failure.
I remember from my days as a cub programmer, I asked one of the
experienced pros how often to save my work-in-progess and how
often to get those old-fashioned reel tapes made to back up my
work. He said "how much of your time are you willing to throw
away if something goes wrong? that's how often you backup!". And,
in those days, there was a phrase called an "editing disaster"
with the old line-oriented text editors whereby you literally
could destroy a really large source code file with a tiny mistake
in a global search and replace operation, thus before I made more
than even a small global change, I did a quick temp file save.

In today's world, I am retired and do computer graphics as a
hobby, primarily pictures of cars via scanning and digital
photography. And, I am only part way through scanning and
repairing all of my old family photos. Some of these jobs take
only a minute or so to complete per image while others can take
10, 20, 60 minutes, some even into the hours to complete. You can
damn well bet that I do periodic saves to variants of the file
name I am using to prevent having some disastrous mistake take
out a couple hours work, or if I am going down a path I find is
not wise and want to start again, but not from the very
beginning. When I'm finally finished with a difficult image, I
blow away all the temps, and backup to external.

I am in complete agreement with everything you've said here and
only commented in support of your thesis and to lend the OP and
any lurkers my experiences which seem similar to yours.
 
HEMI-Powered said:
Today, Rock made these interesting comments ...


I agree, a reasonable amount of redundancy is highly valuable.
And, since no one knows when their HD will crash, even though
modern ones are quite reliable, even having a secondary external
isn't enough. In my case, I have an external for work-in-progress
style backups and rotate 2 200 gig externals between my bank's
safety deposit box and a shelf in my basement.

My backup regimen, about every 4-6 weeks, is to first scan both
my PCs for malware, there being no sense in backing up an
infected system, then do an Acronis True Image full image of my
primary partition, and copy over my data folders, which are on
two extended partitions.

I alternate between three external drives. Two are used for imaging with
Acronis. Full images are done weekly with a daily incremental image. One
set is stored off site. The other external drive is for imaging done by the
Complete PC backup program in Vista Ultimate. This system is setup as a
dual boot with XP and Vista. Acronis True Image version 10 works in both.

Complete PC Backup works fine. It's doesn't have quite the flexibility of
ATI but imaging is fast and restores are fast. Restores are done by booting
the Vista DVD. You cannot restore on a file basis, but Vista does have a
file backup program as well, though that is limited.

Ken Blake has a nice system. He has an externally accessible drive bay
fitted with a removable drive tray. He alternates drives in the tray.
There is all kinds of flexibility there, including easy drive cloning for
backup.
Do not rely solely on a flash drive

I've only use TI for full image backups. One of these days, I've
got to test drive the automated incremental backups of my data
files, although I am generally against allowing anything at all
to run automagically. But, since 99 44/100%+ of all my data are
normal file types, simple folder copies using Xcopy or Windows
Explorer to my external seems to work well. And, as part of the
redundancy thingy, several times a year, I burn DVD-Rs of my
data. Of course, I also burn a DVD for my Acronis backups and
have both the 8-floppy set to get it running if my system is
totally dead and a bootable CD.


Hmmm. I've never seen True Image in a store locally and it cost
me about $100 from their web site for 9.0.

I bought the boxed version with CD from Newegg.com at the great price of
$29.99 plus 4.99 shipping. The cost from the Acronis site is $49.99.
Newegg.com's price varies, sometimes from day to day. You have to monitor
it and catch it at the lower end.
As to externals, if
you're not concerned about paying a premium for a brand name, and
I'm not, then the price/gig is in the 25-50 cent range, so if you
wait for a sale, you can get a 200 gig for under $100, sometimes
down in the $50-60 range. At these prices, it doesn't make sense
to me to try building my own USB device.


Yes, I thought her post was an outstanding synopsis of not only
the key features of the utility, but also the gotchas in backing
up one's system. Some of these were obvious to an experienced
person, but I saw a number of them I hadn't thought of. And, she
also provided tips on how to maximize the various functions of TI
in enough detail to be truly useful but far easier than trying to
traverse the help system. I only have XP Pro SP2 right now, but
for the Vista crowd, I believe that Anna had said that she had
not yet tested TI on Vista to see if there are any concerns,
advantages, disadvantages, etc.

It has been said that the time most people decide to start
backing up their system is right AFTER a major crash or failure.
I remember from my days as a cub programmer, I asked one of the
experienced pros how often to save my work-in-progess and how
often to get those old-fashioned reel tapes made to back up my
work. He said "how much of your time are you willing to throw
away if something goes wrong? that's how often you backup!". And,
in those days, there was a phrase called an "editing disaster"
with the old line-oriented text editors whereby you literally
could destroy a really large source code file with a tiny mistake
in a global search and replace operation, thus before I made more
than even a small global change, I did a quick temp file save.

In today's world, I am retired and do computer graphics as a
hobby, primarily pictures of cars via scanning and digital
photography. And, I am only part way through scanning and
repairing all of my old family photos. Some of these jobs take
only a minute or so to complete per image while others can take
10, 20, 60 minutes, some even into the hours to complete. You can
damn well bet that I do periodic saves to variants of the file
name I am using to prevent having some disastrous mistake take
out a couple hours work, or if I am going down a path I find is
not wise and want to start again, but not from the very
beginning. When I'm finally finished with a difficult image, I
blow away all the temps, and backup to external.

I am in complete agreement with everything you've said here and
only commented in support of your thesis and to lend the OP and
any lurkers my experiences which seem similar to yours.

Great. The more that is done to reinforce good backup habits, the better.
Plus there are many different approaches within the general realm of imaging
that it's important to see how others set it up.
 
Nice explanation Rock,

I'm making that one keeper. I only back-up that which I'd really rather
not lose, but *nothing*on my machines are that important even *if* I did
have to from scratch. Things of a personal nature that would be impossible
to recover *are* backed uo--it most cases however, recovery for me is a PITA
and time consuming, but certainly possible. If something is absolutely
critical, you bet I back that up.

I'ce never used any 3rd party aps. to this, just copy what I need.

I realize there are differences between disk "cloning" and imaging, and am
still find out the pros and cons of each> It doesn't apprear that images are
immediatly bootable. Am i correctly in assumung a "clone" is bootable?
I don't need this much bsckup power now, but the day may be rapidly
approaching

Any good "general sites with opinions on pro/cons of each? Preferably not
an biased sitre with a product to market.
Rock's explanationis very good, bu am always interestedting in other
opinions.

I try not to, but if I've highhacking crgirld thread I apologize.. I would
happen against withiyt an invitr, (frowned upon, so I'n not holdin my
breathe

Sorry crgirl for the dispuction
--
My thanks in Advance,
Curt

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Curt Christianson said:
Nice explanation Rock,
Thanks

I'm making that one keeper.

Print it out, makes good background on a dartboard...lol.
I only back-up that which I'd really rather not lose, but *nothing*on my
machines are that important even *if* I did have to from scratch. Things
of a personal nature that would be impossible to recover *are* backed
uo--it most cases however, recovery for me is a PITA and time consuming,
but certainly possible. If something is absolutely critical, you bet I
back that up.

It all comes down to how much time you are prepared to loose if the system
needs to be rebuilt. For many backing up important user files fits the
needs just fine.
I'ce never used any 3rd party aps. to this, just copy what I need.

I realize there are differences between disk "cloning" and imaging, and am
still find out the pros and cons of each> It doesn't apprear that images
are immediatly bootable. Am i correctly in assumung a "clone" is
bootable?
I don't need this much bsckup power now, but the day may be rapidly
approaching

Yes. A clone is an exact duplicate of the drive (though some programs will
clone individual partitions as well as drives, an example is CasperXP);
assuming the cloning was done properly, and the drive is jumpered properly
use it as you would use the working drive. An image is a file that
contains the contents of the drive or partition, usually in a compressed
form. An image has to be restored using the software that created it, to a
healthy drive, to be useable, though some software, like Acronis, can mount
the image files as a volume so individual files can be recovered from it
rather than having to restore the full partition or drive. This is one way
in which a drive imaging program can be used as file backup. In the case of
Acronis True Image 10, it has a module to do file backup. This is based on
file types.
Any good "general sites with opinions on pro/cons of each? Preferably not
an biased sitre with a product to market.
Rock's explanationis very good, bu am always interestedting in other
opinions.

Pros and cons of what? Imaging v. cloning? File backup v. Imaging? In any
event, I don't think I do. If you are talking about pros and cons of
imaging vs. cloning, cloning takes more time. Imaging is faster and the
file is compressed so multiple images can be saved on one external drive,
you can save multiple "snapshots" of the system. To have multiple clones at
different points in time takes mulitple hard drives. Since a clone is an
exact duplicate, if the drive goes down, plug in the clone and you're back
running. Images have to be restored. If the program supports incremental
or differential images, then the time to create these is even less.
I try not to, but if I've highhacking crgirld thread I apologize.. I would
happen against withiyt an invitr, (frowned upon, so I'n not holdin my
breathe

I don't thnk you really hijacked the thread. The info you gave and
questions asked are pertinent to the whole issue of backups.
 
Today, Rock made these interesting comments ...
I alternate between three external drives. Two are used for
imaging with Acronis. Full images are done weekly with a
daily incremental image. One set is stored off site. The
other external drive is for imaging done by the Complete PC
backup program in Vista Ultimate. This system is setup as a
dual boot with XP and Vista. Acronis True Image version 10
works in both.

Sounds similar to my scheme but you do your backups more often.
My data doesn't churn all that much, mainly whatever I'm doing
with my hobby pictures. C:\ doesn't change that much, seldom add
new apps or upgrade older ones. Don't E-mail that much. The
result is that I don't generate all that much "new" data that
needs backing up and since I am a hobbyist and retired at that,
my livelihood doesn't depend on high reliability. But, my sanity
does depend on being reasonably safe because I have a rather low
tolerance to frustration. Still, with either of our schemes, for
the volume of work we do and its apparent value, I'd say we are
pretty much in agreement.
Complete PC Backup works fine. It's doesn't have quite the
flexibility of ATI but imaging is fast and restores are fast.
Restores are done by booting the Vista DVD. You cannot
restore on a file basis, but Vista does have a file backup
program as well, though that is limited.

Ken Blake has a nice system. He has an externally accessible
drive bay fitted with a removable drive tray. He alternates
drives in the tray. There is all kinds of flexibility there,
including easy drive cloning for backup.

I know some people that do this and my nephew who runs a web
hosting and E-mail business on the side uses cartridge and
streaming tape in automatic running arrays that incrementally
take the system off line, back up that portion to tape, then turn
it back on. Again, the volume of data generated and the value to
you in terms of what it would cost to replace it drives the
solution.
Great. The more that is done to reinforce good backup habits,
the better. Plus there are many different approaches within
the general realm of imaging that it's important to see how
others set it up.

I agree with your philosophy here, as well as the technocracy
you're using. When I get involved in one of these threads, which
is rare for me, I try to instill some sense of urgency in people
so they can evaluate for themselves how much time, effort, and
money they want to invest to protect themselves in the event of a
computer problem, a fire in their house even in another room, a
bad wind, rain, snow, or ice storm, a break-in, stuff like that.

Now, we haven't really talked about it, but should one get a
really bad infestation of a virulent strain of malware, it is
MUCH handier to reload your system from a known clean version
from your most recent full image and quickly restore all of your
data files either from optical or the external HD(s) used to back
it up.

Also, like you, I do not view data protection in its broadest
terms as something that has any one "right "answer" or even a
category of right answers. But, one thing is clear: the fastest
way to get a visit from Murphy is to leave your doors and windows
unlocked, meaning, don't back up anything ever and trust to God
to save you. Well, He don't micro manage our lives.

Listen to this one: I knew of a guy who left his PC on when he,
his wife, and his son and his wife went to China literally for a
month to go through the process of adopting a Chinese infant.
Well, Murphy came to call one night and when he got home, his HD
was totally toast. Now, had he been home, he mighta heard it
making noise but now for the really juicy part - he had ZERO
backups of anything. Zip, nada, zilch. A new HD and a nuke and
reinstall shuffle got Windows and his apps back up and he paid a
forensic data recovery specialist some bucks to try to salvage
his collection of car pictures. Well, what he got was 65,000+
JPGs all with generic names, all but about 10,000 or so were
these little bit maps used by Windows. He had, in effect, lost
his entire collection. Go away out-of-the-country for a month and
leave the PC running! Yee-Ha!
 
Today, Rock made these interesting comments ...

There are three aspects to backup:
- your data, and other static content such as downloaded music
- your installation
- special material, such as license keys etc.

The first can be backup by copying as files, either directly, or via
something that agregates and compresses them, such as an archiver or
file-orientated backup program.

But XP is too fragile to survive a file-level copy, even if you
meticulaously preserve every file perfectly - it has dependencies that
break, and which can only be preserved by imaging the partition that
holds the installation. And because installed apps usually require
preservation of the registry, which is chained to the OS installation,
everything depends on this process.

The last is "beyond the scope of this post"; just let's say that if
you deal with user-hostile DRM thugs, the chances are high that simply
having your music files doesn't mean you will be able to use them.


Backup is easy; it's restoration that is difficult, as this process is
rarely tested and fraught with gotchas!


Planning backups starts before the system is set up:

I'd use a small C: to facilitate imaging of the software installation
in a minimum of space and time.

I'd relocate data OFF C: so that it is away from the incessent traffic
there. Files are corrupted by writes; fewer writes, less risk... and
the scope of file write errors and corruption is typically limited to
the volume, even though a physical HD failure can eat all partitions
and volumes on that HD equally.

I'd debulk the data set so that it is small enough to back up, by
moving Music, Pictures and Videos out of there.

I'd also sanitize the data set by ensuring no infectable code files or
incoming material is stored there. Off-the-peg downloads, received
attachments etc. are NOT "data", are hi-risk, and should NOT be mixed
with data and backups thereof.

Then I'd use a file-level backup for the data set, and separate
similar backups for music and other bulky stuff, and yet another
separate process for incoming and infectable material.


Why would you need to restore?
- finger trouble, so data backups must be browsable
- malware payload, so data backups must be clean
- delayed damage, so backups must have temporal depth
- theft of PC, so backup must be off PC
- site destruction, so backup must be off site

One size clearly does not fit all, so I:
- scope data from code as noted above
- handle narrow-focus restores via browsable data file backups
- handle narrow-focus system rollback via System Restore
- add my own registry backup (ERUNT)
- have temporal depth by keeping the last X data backups
- have temporal immediacy by automating nightly data backups
- do other backups (imaging, pictures etc.) less often
- hold at least 2 copies of backups off the PC
I agree, a reasonable amount of redundancy is highly valuable.
And, since no one knows when their HD will crash, even though
modern ones are quite reliable, even having a secondary external
isn't enough. In my case, I have an external for work-in-progress
style backups and rotate 2 200 gig externals between my bank's
safety deposit box and a shelf in my basement.

Sounds good. Several scenarios will kill any device connected to the
PC, such as mains surges, theft, site flooding etc. so twin HDs in the
same box doesn't cut it. However, it's hard to beat a RAID1 setup for
immediacy, but hte flip side is that most events will hit the "backup"
as well. You need immediacy (how recent?) as well as depth (do we
have a backup from before things went wrong?)
My backup regimen, about every 4-6 weeks, is to first scan both
my PCs for malware, there being no sense in backing up an
infected system,

That's a weak approach to the problem. Consider...
- you have a resident av
- that resident av misses malware
- malware infects PC and is active
- malware can hide from or defeat scans while active
- you use the same av that failed to "detect malware"
....how well can you expect this to work?

Far better to scope malware out of your data set altogether, by strong
"no infectable files" and "no incoming material" policies. You'd also
want an off-HD facility to formally scan the system to better exclude
the presence of malware.

Malware's designed to hide, so it is very likely to have been present
long enough to pervade all backups that don't scope it out. You can
and should assume an installation image will be infected (hence the
formal cleaning tools to be applied after restore but before first
boot) and that's why you want separate data backups.

Not if you maintain an installation image backup, though you may
indeed have to rebuild from scratch if the core hardware (motherboard
etc.) changes. A "repair install" will usually, but not always, fix
an image restored to different hardware.

That can be automated, up to a point. My tactics:
- keep data set small and clean, as noted
- night task archives data set to another local HD volume
- this process keeps the last 5 backups (temporal depth)
- this backup collection is manually dumped to flash or optical disk

On a LAN, you can read-share the backup location and have a later
night task find the latest backup archive and pull it to a different
PC on the LAN. The read-only shares prevent inter-PC malware payload
damage, and you can have a "holographic storage" model where as long
as one PC survives, you have day-old data for all PCs on the LAN,
without having to "remember" to do anything at all :-)
It has been said that the time most people decide to start
backing up their system is right AFTER a major crash or failure.

"Real men do data recovery.
Sensible people make backups"

It's a good line, but the need for data recovery never goes away
completely. A good system design (partitioning, choice of file
systems, data locations) facilitates both.


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Who is General Failure and
why is he reading my disk?
 
crgirl said:
Have no idea where to start. I know there is a way to do it to disks but
havent a clue. Had a hard drive crash before and want to be ready "just in
case" Can someone help me so I dont feel such a moron?


crgirl:
I see you've received quite a few responses to your query and I trust that
they've given you some insight into how to proceed with backing up your
system and haven't been too terribly confusing to you.

The initial response to your query by Rock on 4/27 is a very good overview
of the process and different approaches you can take depending upon your
specific objectives. I would suggest that you carefully review his comments
particularly as they apply to using a disk cloning/disk imaging program
(such as the Acronis one he recommended) to effect a routine comprehensive
backup of your system so that in the event you ever have another "hard drive
crash" you'll be able to restore your system to a functional state
reasonably easily & quickly.

If you're particularly interested in that approach, so indicate and we can
provide you with specific details (step-by-step) instructions for using the
Acronis True Image program in particular.
Anna
 
Have no idea where to start. I know there is a way to do it to disks but
havent a clue. Had a hard drive crash before and want to be ready "just in
case" Can someone help me so I dont feel such a moron?


This is easier said than done. Plus, if you do a complete backup what
good is it when you can't restore from the backup??? To be safe, you
need to do a complete backup and smaller backups of your important
data. The Windows backup program is OK (and free), but it could be a
lot better. A 3rd party backup program is a good choice, such as Ghost
(not so easy of a program to understand). I backup my everyday data
to another drive, and burn a DVD every week to store at another
location. You can also backup to another machine if you are on a LAN.
Tapes can store a lot of data but these are slow. I know some folks
use thumb drives to backup. Complete system restores can feel like
doing witchcraft--they may or may not work. Backups/restores should
be easy and automated. A complete system backup should be done
immediately after your O/S is installed, then another after all your
apps are installed--this will help for a speedy recovery in the event
of hardware failure, virus attack, or theft.
 
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