dual boot with one licens?

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Is it possible to install the same OS on the same PC
regarding the licens,
I wont to have a dual boat and I know how to but I dont
wont to bye another WINXP pro.
Is this possible?
I gues when i try to install the second OS or activate it
it's going to be problem but it's in the same machine so?
thanks
 
Becuse I wont to use one clean XP for heavy DVD authoring
and then you dont wont to have any other programs that
disturbs, is that so hard to understand?
 
I have exactly the same issue which prevents my video
camera imports working (dropped frames) because of all the
garbage that so may application writers seem to feel the
need to insert in my systray.

So I want a partition with a bare XP for video editing and
DVD writing and another with a full install plus all my
apps etc.

I tried doing this with Bootmagic, but the two installs
try and share registry information, and succeed in
screwing each other up. This appears to be notoriously
easy to do with lowerfilter and upperfilters apparently
very sensitive between different dvd writers.

So as well as putting XP in two separate partitions, how
do I stop them from sharing registry information.

I can not for the life of me understand why they do so, I
guess it is MS trying to be clever and yet again making
complications out of simplicity.
 
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Becuse I wont to use one clean XP for heavy DVD authoring
and then you dont wont to have any other programs that
disturbs, is that so hard to understand?
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It's not hard for me to understand. Fascinating idea!
Wish I could help. But I'm very interested in the
possibilities. Currently I dual boot WIN98SE/WINXP.
 
kn said:
Is it possible to install the same OS on the same PC
regarding the licens,
I wont to have a dual boat and I know how to but I dont
wont to bye another WINXP pro.
Is this possible?
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No,
You may not install Windows XP twice on the same system without purchasing
another license for the OS.
The End User License Agreement (EULA) is quite clear about this.

GRANT OF LICENSE. Microsoft grants you the following
rights provided that you comply with all terms and
conditions of this EULA:
1.1 Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
display and run one copy of the Software on a single computer,
such as a workstation, terminal or other device ("Workstation
Computer").

The key here is "You may install ...... one copy of the Software on a single
computer ......"
So if you required a multi boot configuration then you are required to
purchase additional licenses.

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Mike
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ok Mike, I thank you for the response but I have to say
that then I think EULA relly stinks, I bye the software
and cant still use it as a se fit on ONE PC
you still have some privat people bying the software, you
should not treat them like this......tell Bill that
 
This is still a violation of the licensing terms.

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Regards,

Mike
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peter Gardner said:
I have exactly the same issue which prevents my video
camera imports working (dropped frames) because of all the
garbage that so may application writers seem to feel the
need to insert in my systray.

So I want a partition with a bare XP for video editing and
DVD writing and another with a full install plus all my
apps etc.

I tried doing this with Bootmagic, but the two installs
try and share registry information, and succeed in
screwing each other up. This appears to be notoriously
easy to do with lowerfilter and upperfilters apparently
very sensitive between different dvd writers.

So as well as putting XP in two separate partitions, how
do I stop them from sharing registry information.

I can not for the life of me understand why they do so, I
guess it is MS trying to be clever and yet again making
complications out of simplicity.
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Yes, multibooting was (and still is) a rather simple concept and existed
long before Microsoft invented their own convoluted, incompatible
method, first released with NT.

Your experience with BootMagic is very common, and caused by XP's method
of "remembering" drive letters. BM will work, but PQ leaves out some
key details in their instructions. If you haven't already given up on
BM and want to try again, post back for more details.
 
kn said:
ok Mike, I thank you for the response but I have to say
that then I think EULA relly stinks, I bye the software
and cant still use it as a se fit on ONE PC
you still have some privat people bying the software, you
should not treat them like this......tell Bill that
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Although most would agree with you, the EULA stinks, it also states you did
not buy the software.
It states:

"You may install, use, access, display and run one copy of the Product on a
single computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device
("Workstation Computer")."

It never says you own the software.. You have bought the right to *use* the
software, and Microsoft also states that they can "... cancel this EULA if
you do not abide by the terms and conditions of this EULA, in which case you
must destroy all copies of the Product and all of its component parts."

SO your argument is made invalid by the fact you installed it and agreed to
the EULA in the first place. heh

Yes the EULA stinks.. Makes you think perhaps reading it before installing
it might have been the right thing to do, eh> *grin*
 
Thanks Dan - yes please any advice welcome because the m/c
is totalled and I need to start over and do not want to
hit the same problem again.

I have posted more description of my problem under "multi-
boot smashes registry"
 
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No,
You may not install Windows XP twice on the same system without
purchasing another license for the OS.
The End User License Agreement (EULA) is quite clear about this.

GRANT OF LICENSE. Microsoft grants you the following
rights provided that you comply with all terms and
conditions of this EULA:
1.1 Installation and use. You may install, use, access,
display and run one copy of the Software on a single computer,
such as a workstation, terminal or other device ("Workstation
Computer").
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I can understand the logic behind not allowing Windows to be
installed on more then one computer. But, I can't understand
why I can't install the same copy one one computer twice.

I'm sorry. But, I would feel no guilt about doing so if I had
a need to dual-boot XP as only one copy could be used at a
time.
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David

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Graphic violence is advised"
 
Hey Im dan!
Please I need the information also, I relly dont like the
idea with two separated disk, but the problem with the
registration still is a problem with dual boot yes?
 
kn said:
Please I need the information also, I relly dont like the
idea with two separated disk, but the problem with the
registration still is a problem with dual boot yes?
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No, activation shouldn't be a problem because your hardware is still the
same.

My followup response to peter gardner is in the thread "2 XP
installations and invisible drives???". His situation may be a bit
different from yours -- he is using PartitionMagic to clone his XP
partition and using BootMagic to dualboot. But it is also possible to
dualboot without cloning by simply going through the installation
procedure twice and using Microsoft's XP bootloader to control the
dualboot, and I expected that was what you were asking about. I
personally dislike the MS method, so I leave those questions to the
numerous others in this newsgroup who don't seem to mind using the MS
method.

FYI, multiboot methods fall into two general categories: the Microsoft
way and everyone else's way. The two methods use incompatible concepts
and cannot simply be substituted for one another. If you plan to use
the MS method built into XP, you won't find the info in peter's thread
very useful because the third-party method discussed there uses
different installation principles. In a nutshell, the Microsoft way
intertwines the OS's by always booting through the same partition and
then forking to one or another operating system on different drive
letters, while the third-party boot managers keep OS's totally
independent and truly boot separate partitions as alternate "C:"
partitions. There is plenty of information on Microsoft's website on
how to multiboot, but it will cover only the MS way, not third-party
boot managers.
 
Regardless this is still a violation of the licensing agreement you agree to
be bound by during the install process.

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Regards,

Mike
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Thanks!
So let's say if I have XPpro on C: today and install a new
drive (serial ata?) and install PartitionMagic and then
clone the OS to the new drive, and then install BootMagic
to multiboot? is this they way?
 
kn said:
So let's say if I have XPpro on C: today and install a
new drive (serial ata?) and install PartitionMagic and
then clone the OS to the new drive, and then install
BootMagic to multiboot? is this they way?
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Yes, that's one way. You need to do your research. Look for more info
and tutorials at www.powerquest.com/support,
www.terabyteunlimited.com/help.html, and
http://www.v-com.com/support/sup_os_index.html. Beware that most
overlook the issue of clearing partition signatures, as I outlined to
peter in the other thread.

Using two HDDs makes thing a little more complicated -- exactly how to
boot from a second HDD may vary from one boot manager to another. Most
seem to have an option you need to enable called "swap disks" or
something similar, which makes HDD1 appear to the system to be HDD0 so
it can boot. I don't remember how BootMagic does it, so check for
documentation. You might also have to manually edit the ARCpath in your
boot.ini file on the clone. You'll find more about the boot.ini's
ARCpath at http://tinyurl.com/8n5e. In short, the ARCpath tells XP
which HDD on which IDE channel it's supposed to boot from.
 
kn said:
clearing partition signatures, I cant find that info
somewhere, can you help me here?
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Clearing partition signatures is described in
www.terabyteunlimited.com/help.html -- scroll down to the section where
it starts talking about "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\MountedDevices". I
also cover it in the notes section of my webpage at
www.goodells.net/multiboot.

Note this is only an issue when partitions are *cloned* (it is not an
issue if you dualboot by installing XP twice from the CD). In a
nutshell, the problem is that once XP is installed, the registry
"remembers" that the drive letter "C:" (for example) belonged to
partition-xyz. When you clone partition-xyz to partition-abc, the
duplicate copy of XP on partition-abc still remembers partition-xyz as
C:, when what you want is for it to treat the new partition as C:. The
solution is to make XP forget those signatures before doing the cloning.
 
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