do i still need anti vius software ?

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Just for reinforcement:

YES. Plun has the right list and in the right order!

There are lots of rumors about what is in Microsoft Antispyware and what you
don't need or what it will conflict with. Ignore them. It doesn't
substitute for anything else on your machine except another antispyware
program which provides real-time protection.
 
Bill said:
Just for reinforcement:

YES. Plun has the right list and in the right order!
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No, I have not if a user haven´t installed SP2.

Before you install SP2 you must clean up your PC with a
antispyware program and updated antivirusprogram.

If SP2 is installed this list is ok.

I think this has caused a lot of bad reputation/rumours
about SP2
 
I still think the list is right--firewall is first, and SP2 is an update,
which is second.

I do agree about trying to clean the machine before installing SP2, though.
 
Bill said:
I still think the list is right--firewall is first, and SP2 is an update,
which is second.

I do agree about trying to clean the machine before installing SP2, though.
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Not only "try", you MUST clean it before.

Otherwise its like "russian roulette" to install SP2.
 
Bill

The link provided by Plun earlier gave two non-Microsoft Anti-Spyware
providers, Adaware and Spybot Search & Destroy. However, the freeware
versions of these, unless I am mistaken, do not provide real-time
protection. This is a point worth watching when MSAS moves from beta to
non-beta.

Of course using a Hosts file, even if the user does not add to the
original list, does provide a measure of real time protection.

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Regards.

Gerry

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This is absolutely correct. I don't know of a free solution giving active
protection.
 
Gerry said:
Bill

The link provided by Plun earlier gave two non-Microsoft Anti-Spyware
providers, Adaware and Spybot Search & Destroy. However, the freeware
versions of these, unless I am mistaken, do not provide real-time
protection. This is a point worth watching when MSAS moves from beta to
non-beta.
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These to non MS companys are respected by MS themselves
beacuse they have
saved MS from a total fiasko with SP2.

Check this page:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxp/choose.mspx

We follow point 2:
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/checkcomputer.mspx

And finds MSAS, Adaware and Spybot. ;)

Keep at least 2 of these, dont depend on only MS.

And of course the major benefit with MSAS is real time
protection.
 
Plun

When the bugs are removed!

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Regards.

Gerry

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Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
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Plun

Did you remove Spywareblaster solely to test the efficacy of MSAS real
time protection? Might it not have been safer to do that in the next
beta when some of the MSAS problems have been sorted.

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Regards.

Gerry

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Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
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Gerry said:
Plun

Did you remove Spywareblaster solely to test the efficacy of MSAS real
time protection?
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Yes. I have Firefox as backup.........
Might it not have been safer to do that in the next
beta when some of the MSAS problems have been sorted.
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Well, i know how to clean and where to get help.
(and have backups)

We have the whole antispyware community with ASAP people.
You find them in every forum. (but not in this)

They know more about this then MVP.s and MSTF personal. ;)

About ASAP. worthless knowledge perhaps.
http://www.a-sap.org/
 
Gerry said:
Plun

When the bugs are removed!
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Well, this is not a real beta test. MS uses
almost all from Giants software and therefore
I trust on this software more then real betas.
 
I guess this is accurate. It locks out the specific bugs covered by it's
list. But it doesn't need to be running in order to do that.

That's both a strength and a weakness--it's very low-footprint, but it also
doesn't do the active monitoring of integration points that the checkpoints
in Microsoft Antispyware do.
 
FWIW, I've been checking out Barts PE, so I created a Barts boot CD with
McAfee Stinger and Lavasoft's Ad-aware current as of about a week ago.

I booted my laptop to it yesterday and figured out how to get Ad-aware to
scan the C drive.

It found zero objects--not even a cookie.

I'll do a similar test on my desktop sometime soon.

I know the beta doesn't touch cookies, so I can't explain why I didn't have
any--possibly because I've been too busy spouting stuff here to do any
surfing on the laptop.
 
Not quite correct: Spybot has active monitoring agent
called teatimer; but it is neither as comprehensive nor as
flexible as the one in MSAS.
 
Bill

It seems Win Patrol 9 is another.

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Regards.

Gerry

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FCA

Stourport, Worcs, England
Enquire, plan and execute.
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Bill Sanderson said:
I guess this is accurate. It locks out the specific bugs covered by
it's list. But it doesn't need to be running in order to do that.

That's both a strength and a weakness--it's very low-footprint, but it
also doesn't do the active monitoring of integration points that the
checkpoints in Microsoft Antispyware do.
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Ah--that's the piece of Spybot Search and Destroy that I've never turned on.
I mistrusted the cutesy name, and never had a clear idea of the
functionality--and somebody else whose opinion I respected said he didn't
think much of it.

I do like Spybot Search & Destroy quite well, though.. Part of that is their
licensing options, which allow me to use it in non-profit offices without
fee, unlike Lavasoft's ad-aware.

--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

Not quite correct: Spybot has active monitoring agent
called teatimer; but it is neither as comprehensive nor as
flexible as the one in MSAS.
 
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